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10-26-2011 12:19 AM #1 gobig (Member)
Cloaking script (leadimpact)

Hey guys,

I could really use a cloaking script for leadimpact and some info about how to implement it. I know the concept of how cloaking works, but I have no technical clue how to set it up and there doesn't seem to be any thorough description of it (I've been searching the forums).

I would gladly pay someone to help me set up a cloaking script with an up-to-date list of reviewers IP addresses.

Is there anyone generous enough to help me out on this?

Thanks!


10-26-2011 08:36 AM #2 tijn (Moderator)

If you have the list of ip addresses then isnt it straightforward??

Just match current IP address to any of those and send it to a fake page.

If you look for the facebook one on google, just swap out the ip ranges and your in business.

But of course there any many more ways then IP to cloak.....


10-26-2011 10:14 AM #3 gobig (Member)

Haha no...I don't have a list of the IP addresses. "Just match current IP address to any of those and send it to a fake page." That doesn't really explain anything or how to set it up technically, there's more to it than that which involves programming. Yeah, that's an idea, however I need one with the leadimpact IP's and I only know of one for facebook that's for sale on warriorforum. The only other way I know of is by user agent, and leadimpact has a lot of downloads where I'd need to find this information out (I don't know how to do this either). So, would you care to elaborate more on the subject or PM me the script you use so I can figure this out? Thanks.


10-26-2011 10:29 AM #4 tijn (Moderator)

sorry man i misunderstood. i misread your first post and thought you already had a list of IPs.

its clear now that you dont (doh - my bad - sorry).

Re the script, use this as a basis:

http://affiliateplex.com/tools/facebook-cloaker/

all you need is the IP addresses.

You can generate those yourself by runnign a couple of legit campaigns and seeing where the reviewers come from (ie first couple of clicks on a new campaign).


10-26-2011 11:21 AM #5 gobig (Member)

Thanks Tijn, its cool man. I looked at the script and I have a better idea now but I have a few more questions. I don't need to change any of the script for checking referers, just the IP addresses? Could you share any of the IP ranges that leadimpact reviewers use, or if that's too much how many campaigns would you suggest I run before I attempt cloaking?


10-26-2011 11:57 AM #6 alex_b (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tijn View Post
But of course there any many more ways then IP to cloak.....
Care to elaborate? I thought of doing the whole "gather IP through legit campaigns, then redirect" but in another thread polarbacon made it sound like the guys at LI are well aware of such tactics or at least know how to get around it (proxy, f.e.). So anything else besides IP?


10-26-2011 11:58 AM #7 tijn (Moderator)

ok - forget about cloaking until you are making a steady $500 a day. Learn the basics, and learn to make money that way. Then you can look at cloaking for taking your earnings to the next level.


10-26-2011 12:38 PM #8 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Honestly I wouldn't suggest cloaking on LI nowdays.

Lately they have caught on these tricks and check your landing pages from proxies.

So when they catch you it's an immediate ban .

They are the biggest PPV traffic source right now, so it's not worth losing your account there.


10-26-2011 12:53 PM #9 eliquid (Member)

I wouldnt out the "other" ways. Some tricks you have to keep to yourself.

I know about 10 more ways other then IP, you just need to think about it a bit and what info you can obtain from your visitors and then find similarities.


10-26-2011 06:47 PM #10 gobig (Member)

Dude...I'd rather not run on leadimpact at all than not cloak anything. For one thing, like Facebook their approvals suck along with their restrictions. And another thing, if I actually do make a "steady $500/day" on there, I'm sure it wouldn't last long since I'm competing with the traffic source themselves and they've been known to jack any profitable campaign they can get their greedy little hands on. I don't see why the only way I can learn about cloaking is if I'm making $500/day. I already know the basics man, I just have campaigns I want to run on LI that I know would get disapproved, and I don't want to risk them booting me off of any profitable targets if they one day decide it's better to run themselves. It's not as if I CAN'T run anything legit on there and make money...I just don't see the point in it when I could be doing better things.

"I wouldnt out the "other" ways. Some tricks you have to keep to yourself." - I don't see why you wouldn't, it's cloaking not a pot of gold. Why's everyone have that kind of attitude? It's a fucking paid forum where we're supposed to share knowledge, not say you have 10 ways of doing it then withhold it all. Cmon guys, I expected some usefulness to come out of this thread but it seems like you'd rather keep the good stuff to yourselves.

Thanks for the honest answer and forewarning bbrock, I'm aware of the risks associated with cloaking however I still plan on trying this, either now or eventually.


10-26-2011 06:53 PM #11 eliquid (Member)

^^ I think you got the wrong impression man.

This is a paid forum, we do share ideas and tips.. but I dont see anyone here actively giving up their winning portfolio of campaigns, URLs of their landers, their KWs and targets they bid on, etc. Just because its paid doesnt mean divulge everything to anyone at will. Plus, what do you learn copy/pasting whatever we spoon feed you?

Dont take it the wrong way, most of the case studies you see here or campaigns people gave away here will have something mentioned about "was" "use to be" "had" for a reason. Either because the person doesnt run it anymore, its not allowed, or the offer is gone, or some other reason.

Don't expect someone to hand over an active campaign ( or details about that campaing like cloaking ) thats banking them a lot of money.

If I or someone else on this board is planning on releasing a cloaking service ( where we make money on it ), why would we tell you everything about it for free?

tijn handed you a working cloaker, it will be up to you to expand upon it and make it work better for what you need if you need LI IPs only. If we listed those here, LI could simply visit this forum and see we know their IPs and thus get new ones ( or several other things they could do )


10-26-2011 07:12 PM #12 gobig (Member)

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No comment on most of that.

I'm asking for information on cloaking, not what your most profitable landing pages and targets are...I can easily find that out on my own by running my OWN campaigns and I don't believe in directly ripping other people off.

Wrong impression? Hahah no, I was right. It's just a shame most people are stuck in that scarcity mindset...Pretty weak if you ask me.

If someone was planning on releasing a cloaking service (IF), then I'm sure they would chime in considering the first thing I said was I'll pay for help to get this setup.


10-26-2011 07:45 PM #13 eliquid (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by gobig View Post
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No comment on most of that.

I'm asking for information on cloaking, not what your most profitable landing pages and targets are...I can easily find that out on my own by running my OWN campaigns and I don't believe in directly ripping other people off.

Wrong impression? Hahah no, I was right. It's just a shame most people are stuck in that scarcity mindset...Pretty weak if you ask me.

If someone was planning on releasing a cloaking service (IF), then I'm sure they would chime in considering the first thing I said was I'll pay for help to get this setup.
Asking for detailed info on cloaking is just like asking someone for a winning campaign in my book. Your asking for a piece of the puzzle that takes successful affiliates that do cloaking lots of time, energy, testing, research, and money to develop. Its not as easy as setting up a PHP script to simply collect IPs off a lander. Besides, there has been numerous posts on the subject that already link to examples and to the script given to you in this thread.

If you had really wanted information on cloaking and performed a search, you would have seen at least 1 member here is planning a cloaking service and I have had one in the works for several months already. You would have also found the script on your own too.

As far as paying for help on the cloaking, why would someone charge you 1 time for the help when they can charge you a monthly fee as a service?

Besides, if someone did help you and set it all up, how do you know that person really knew what they were doing and had the right IPs and done all the right research? The only way your going to know is doing it yourself and testing yourself.

You have a cloak system now, go out and start using it and finding out on your own. Thats the best way to get the correct info you need just like with everything else.


10-26-2011 08:52 PM #14 gobig (Member)

Not everyone just cares about how much they can make selling cloaking scripts... I contacted the person who you're referring to that's offering a service and I'm confident he knows what he's doing since he's a reputable member on this forum. I know now that I should've done this in the first place and waited for his input instead of starting a new thread, my bad. I'd appreciate it if a mod could close this thread.

Your question as to "why would someone give away a piece of the puzzle that took them time, money, and testing to develop?" could be asked differently. Why would someone give away tips that can improve landing page CTR? Why would someone give away landing page templates that have been proven to convert? Why would someone give away a CURRENTLY profitable campaign? (Believe it or not, some people do this. I saw one posted by Maynzie not long ago) Those are all pieces of the puzzle you need to know to be successful in AM.

The reason that they do it is to give back to the community, which is what it is after all. Forums were designed for people to ask questions and receive answers. People who post helpful information don't care about how much time was spent, how much testing was done or how much money was spent to draw those conclusions, right? All they ask for (if anything) is a little thanks and recognition - those are the kinda people I respect and the type of person I am. I plan on contributing a lot more to this forum as time progresses and I grow as an affiliate and have more useful knowledge to offer. If nobody at all did contributed like this, the forum would be a very different place and not nearly as valuable of a resource.

Just kinda pisses me off when people post in my thread saying "why should anyone help you?" and not offering any value. I don't see how you can join a forum and ask questions yourself then when someone asks a question tell them to Google it. I hope that's mainly because you're developing a service.

Anyways, like I said it's my fault for starting this thread before receiving a reply. Could a mod please close this thread? Thanks


10-26-2011 11:28 PM #15 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by eliquid View Post
tijn handed you a working cloaker, it will be up to you to expand upon it and make it work better for what you need if you need LI IPs only. If we listed those here, LI could simply visit this forum and see we know their IPs and thus get new ones ( or several other things they could do )
Exactly! IF LI visits this forum they will see what IP's we cloack and how we track who they are. Thats something what was done in the "other" IM forum, pretty soon after LI came out with new IP's...


10-27-2011 12:21 AM #16 gobig (Member)

Yup, good point and part of the reason I shouldn't have started this lol. It's a lot smarter to talk about it via PM than out in the open forums...you never know who's a member here.


10-27-2011 11:28 AM #17 leadpiss (Member)

Finally you came to sense.


10-28-2011 07:15 PM #18 markl (Member)

You guys that want to cloak is it more because you don't want your stuff jacked by them or because you want to do sneaky stuff?


10-30-2011 07:25 PM #19 gobig (Member)

it's both really. i mean leadimpact will reject your campaign if it has an intro pop, but then they'll run campaigns themselves with an intro pop. not only will they jack your shit, but they'll also break their own "rules" and cut you out of the equation. fuck that man we already have to worry about other affiliates swiping our pages, id rather not have to worry about the company im spending money advertising with stealing my shit too.


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