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02-14-2017 02:52 PM #1 aloeveraa1491 (Member)
Hiding referrer?

There's a lot of talk about hiding referrers, especially in Voluum when people are using DMR

After doing some research, I'm still quite confused by this

> What is the referrer?
> What does hiding the referrer actually do?
> What's the pros and cons of using DMR vs Meta Refresh vs 302 on Voluum?


02-14-2017 03:01 PM #2 wealthspark (Member)

Referee is the site where traffic and conversions are coming from... you hide this so that the vendor/ offer owner does not know where these conversions are coming from and potentially stop them from placing ads In these same spots.

Dont have Info on DMR BUT meta refresh and 302 are a way to hide referrer , I believe meta is slower and can increase response time on the lander page


02-14-2017 03:09 PM #3 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

DMR means Double Meta Refresh, so the info is rewritten twice in order to increase the success rate.

302 doesnt hide anything, meta hides it with some level of sucess, double meta increased the rate further.

Double meta is the slowest, so it's not recommended to do with speed sensitive campaigns - mobile pops for example.

However, I've done some tests myself and didn't really notice big difference, check it out : https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Let-s-find-out!


02-14-2017 03:23 PM #4 goshev (Administrator)

To hide the referrer you can also try moving from http to https or the opposite. This will not work with CNAME domains unless the domain to which you CNAME to has valid SSL certs for both the main and the cnamed entry. However moving between http/https will remove the referrer it is just how the protocols work. This will require proper server side setup for the domains you will be using.


02-14-2017 03:35 PM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by goshev View Post
To hide the referrer you can also try moving from http to https or the opposite. This will not work with CNAME domains unless the domain to which you CNAME to has valid SSL certs for both the main and the cnamed entry. However moving between http/https will remove the referrer it is just how the protocols work. This will require proper server side setup for the domains you will be using.
Thanks for the tip


02-15-2017 04:10 AM #6 erikgyepes (Moderator)

I heard word tip above, so here is one more TIP from me:

You can now use meta tag that instructs browsers to not send referrer:

HTML Code:
<meta name="referrer" content="never">
It's something that's getting implemented across browsers, so it may not work on older versions (check the details here: http://caniuse.com/#feat=referrer-policy), but I still like to have it in my landing page code.

In any case DMR leaks my referrer, this is my backup.


02-15-2017 06:39 AM #7 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by goshev View Post
To hide the referrer you can also try moving from http to https or the opposite. This will not work with CNAME domains unless the domain to which you CNAME to has valid SSL certs for both the main and the cnamed entry. However moving between http/https will remove the referrer it is just how the protocols work. This will require proper server side setup for the domains you will be using.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is pretty much down to browsers following the 'general standard' isn't it? From what I remember, https to http only works if the browser of the visitor 'follows' that standard, but not for all browsers.


02-15-2017 08:11 AM #8 aloeveraa1491 (Member)

Thanks for everyone's answers!

Just to check - does this raise any red flags when the Affiliate Networks are seeing all referrers being blanked/hidden?
Or does this depend on the offer type? (eg. PIN submit, lead gen, etc)


02-15-2017 09:32 AM #9 evy123 (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by aloeveraa1491 View Post
Thanks for everyone's answers!

Just to check - does this raise any red flags when the Affiliate Networks are seeing all referrers being blanked/hidden?
Or does this depend on the offer type? (eg. PIN submit, lead gen, etc)
It Shouldn't, as Affiliate networks understand that you dont want to disclose that information. I dont think anyone is actually sending out referrals. Not the correct ones anyways

But on the other hand, some sensitive offers might require you to give out the placements\websites you are running on. so not disclosing the referrals will not enable you to run these.

In conclusion: Yes, please hide your referrals


02-15-2017 08:03 PM #10 aloeveraa1491 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by evy123 View Post
It Shouldn't, as Affiliate networks understand that you dont want to disclose that information. I dont think anyone is actually sending out referrals. Not the correct ones anyways

But on the other hand, some sensitive offers might require you to give out the placements\websites you are running on. so not disclosing the referrals will not enable you to run these.

In conclusion: Yes, please hide your referrals
Thanks! Your answer is super clear and have explained it very well especially to someone like me


02-15-2017 08:49 PM #11 jessejames (Member)

The referrer (like if you go to console and get it with JS) is from the client. https://www.dropbox.com/s/41ah1myz72...31.42.png?dl=0 so it comes down to how the browser handles it. You can't really trust the client side stuff because a browser can handle it however it wants ... The only thing you can trust is your own server-side stuff.


https://www.darklaunch.com/tools/test-referer Like some browsers blanks after one.


A 301, 302, 307 etc preserves referrer.

Meta refresh happens in the header of the document. So the page is loaded, then the document refreshes to the new url in x seconds. A 0 second refresh is normally treated as a 301 though I believe, same as a JS redirect like window.location.reload();



I don't know why this is the way it is, why this is treated like that and that is treated like this ... I'm sure there's a spec for it in HTTP, and browsers try to stick to that.


02-16-2017 01:44 AM #12 qtxmedia (Member)

I don't think a DMR will blank $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'].


03-05-2017 03:32 AM #13 aloeveraa1491 (Member)

Does hiding your referrer with DMR/meta tags also hide your Landers from Affiliate Networks when they search through Adplexity?


03-05-2017 05:05 AM #14 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Nope, they just simply blank the referrer. That's it.


03-13-2017 06:44 AM #15 ezmobile (Member)

I'm not sure about how to hide referrer but i'm sure it can be done, we've actually had a network advertiser request we do that, we've never before but he mentioned its easier and safer for this deal to mask the referrer.

We are under the impression that visibility and transparency is what makes a good campaign, I guess some advertisers think differently.


03-13-2017 02:01 PM #16 TheComedian (Member)

Like that. Using dmr you blank the referer as Erik said


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