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02-08-2017 02:28 PM #1 audacious (AMC Alumnus)
Cooking up some profit with the Mobile Cookbook

Hello all and welcome to my FA.

Offer : Sweeps iPhone7
GEO : ID
Traffic: Go2Mobi
Payout: $0.05

Although I have run campaigns for ecom on Facebook this is my first Affiliate campaign.

Ill be following the excellent Mobile cookbook, thanks Cauramen,

After asking my AM for the list sorted by volume of current offers,I selected this one that has a very low payout, (maybe too low? but my AM said was working) so i went with it.

The offer has a pre-lander built into the offer itself (4 simple question with a email submit at the end) which meant i could just get going with the banners

I followed Vortex’s excellent beginner friendly photoshop guide, and made some banners.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ight=photoshop

Angle for the banners was a simple quiz “Which company makes iPhone”

Some banners got rejected and some not, the whole campaign was rejected from mopub and smaato(I latter got Smaato approval), and some ads rejected from a few other exchanges, I know the cookbook recommends that you should start with smaato, but since i want to get started i ran the campaign with a $50 budget, now the minimum.
I got back a lot of placements 6700 over a day and a bit and burnt through the $50 budget in one day

So the question is what now with so few conversions perhaps spread so thin, should i look for a new sweeps offers for iphone with a better payout and in english? or stick with this one? I was thinking either retest with just the smaato exchange or try with just a few of the promising placements,

All help is greatly appreciated

below are my banners and my stats,


02-09-2017 08:20 PM #2 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Wow! Your photoshop skills are better than mine - can't fault your banners! Thank you for notifying me to check out your FA via PM.

I've seen offers with really low payouts work, but for banner/display traffic it's harder.

I would DEFINITELY recommend that you give those banners another shot - I can tell a lot of work went into them, and that they stand a chance with the right offer.

A few suggestions:

1)Do you have experience running pop? I would suggest to test offers on pop first to lock down a good offer (and a lander if the offer doesn't come with one), and THEN take the best-converting offer to test on display, to test and get your banners right.

2)ID is a wonderful geo, but your banners are in English. If you can find more offers for ID, get those banners translated into Indonesian and test again.

3)Since you already have English banners, see if you could find offers for English-speaking geos, that have landers built-in as well. Better, test them on pop traffic first as suggested above.

4)When running on go2mobi, do NOT choose autobid. For ID which has a ton of traffic, start at a lower bid - if you're targeting wifi traffic don't bid too, too low, just to avoid the crap at the bottom - but not as high as autobid. Try something like $0.55 CPM and see what happens. It's been a long time since I've targeted wifi on go2mobi. With carrier traffic you can bid crazy low (as low as $0.10CPM or lower!) and still get quality traffic, but I'm not sure about wifi.

Best of luck - I'll be waiting to see results!



Amy


02-09-2017 09:21 PM #3 audacious (AMC Alumnus)

Thanks for giving me some very valuable feedback, and the compliment.

I also thought that Pop would be a good way to go and have been spending some time going through Caurmen's excellent guide on creating mobile landers,

I have started to go through, Pops/Redirects 101 (A Step-by-Step Guide)by Ruby tunes.

Ok great so for testing offers on POP, would it be advisable for an offer with a built in lander just to direct link as a benchmark and link to my own lander as well? or for those offers a lander is not needed or can hurt conversions ? Or just test and see, suspect the answer is just test and see,


02-09-2017 10:10 PM #4 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by audacious View Post
Thanks for giving me some very valuable feedback, and the compliment.

I also thought that Pop would be a good way to go and have been spending some time going through Caurmen's excellent guide on creating mobile landers,

I have started to go through, Pops/Redirects 101 (A Step-by-Step Guide)by Ruby tunes.

Ok great so for testing offers on POP, would it be advisable for an offer with a built in lander just to direct link as a benchmark and link to my own lander as well? or for those offers a lander is not needed or can hurt conversions ? Or just test and see, suspect the answer is just test and see,
Those threads are great to start from! Here's another one - there's a rough outline on how to run sweeps on pop at the end of this post:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post293497

As for landers - you can test types of offers for sure (i.e. those that have pre-landers built in and those that don't). You don't need to start making landers from scratch. In fact, I would suggest that you NOT.

Simply get a subscription to Adplexity and rip the most popular landers people are using. They'll be enough for you to test and find good offers. You can tweak the best one further to improve on it.

Select the "Received most traffic" option on Adplexity, browse landers and rip 10+ that look different. Fix up the code and add your tracker click url.

When you're testing so many popular landers, at least some of them will work well. Don't start with original landers you made from scratch - if you don't get conversions you'd have no idea whether it's your landers or offers that are not working. At least establish a benchmark with ripped landers first before testing your own landers against them.



Amy


02-13-2017 01:32 PM #5 audacious (AMC Alumnus)

Hey solid advice again, ripped a bunch of landers,
Im having trouble finding those sneaky redirects, seem to be in Javascript somehow,
Ive gone through the steps,
Replacing http and Jquery files for hosted ones.
But the lander still has a sneaky redirect in it.
Im a bit stuck, I started going through the w3 guides for Java script, which helps but still cant find that re-direct,
I was reading that there are all sorts of ways to sneakily hide the re-directs
perhaps you know of some more guides here ?
been through this guide
Thanks


02-13-2017 08:20 PM #6 audacious (AMC Alumnus)

Woo went from feeling like I had hit a brick wall to breaking through
Realized my mistake, when not using a VPN then there appears to be a redirect to some other offers, is this the Aff Network or someone else doing this?
The click ends up at the right offer page, But there still seems to be a URL in the chain which isnt placed by me, should I ignore seeing as I end up at the right offer, and i have no idea how to change it?
the http that is in the chain is bigbangads.go2cloud.org
should I be concerned?


02-14-2017 12:22 AM #7 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by audacious View Post
Woo went from feeling like I had hit a brick wall to breaking through
Realized my mistake, when not using a VPN then there appears to be a redirect to some other offers, is this the Aff Network or someone else doing this?
The click ends up at the right offer page, But there still seems to be a URL in the chain which isnt placed by me, should I ignore seeing as I end up at the right offer, and i have no idea how to change it?
the http that is in the chain is bigbangads.go2cloud.org
should I be concerned?
Glad you were able to discover the issue on your own!

To find out whether it's your lander or your aff network that's doing the redirecting: Just browse to the offer (using a VPN of course) and note where you end up, then compare results with when you browse to the lander.

Having multiple redirects in the chain is normal for affiliate offers. Many affiliate networks will broker and re-broker from other networks. Actually, a good tip is to observe the final link in the chain and sign up to that aff network or advertiser, and run directly with them by cutting out the middle man/men. This will naturally result in higher payouts, and maybe better CR (assuming nobody's shaving and the scrubbing rates are similar) due to the slightly faster redirection speed due to there being fewer redirects.

To answer your question, as long as you end up on the correct offer page, that's just about the best you can do, other than signing up with the "original" aff network as mentioned above.



Amy


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