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12-22-2016 04:36 PM #1 leonardoschwartz (Member)
What's the best pop / media buy source to get started?

Hey Guys,


I'm just getting started, I have some past experience with Google Adwords -from years ago- and Facebook but I want to start my career as a full time affiliate marketer testing one pop/redirect traffic source and one good media buy traffic source.

What traffic sources can you recommend in every department?


On media buys, I was considering getting started with SiteScout but I don't really know if this is the best option around and as I need $500 to fund my account I want to be sure I'm putting my money in the right one.

On pop sources, I have no idea where to start really...


Of course you're going to ask me what verticals I'm interested in working in.

As I said before, I have no real experience on AM so I've been reading many posts in the forum and kind of decided the best way to go is starting promoting sweepstakes and surveys in a tier 3 GEO (thanks MrGreen and Caurmen for the insightful posts!).


On the side, I want to promote a webinars + coaching program of mine in the Spanish market, maybe Argentina, Mexico and Spain to start with. I just happen to have a program that's selling well in this market and want to test how it goes with these new traffic sources.

But again, that's on the side, my main focus and my goal when joining STM is mastering paid traffic and for that I'll take any suggestions from the most experienced members here on good verticals and traffic sources, exception made of adult since it's not my cup of tea.


On Affiliate Networks, at this point I only have an account open with Peerfly, but I'm willing to open accounts with any other you may recommend.


A final word: I didn't totally make my mind about getting involved with mobile offers, networks and traffic sources. This is something that could be interesting to me but I'd love to hear some feedback from all of you guys in order to make a more informed decision on this regard.

Facebook and Adwords, for the most part, are not appealing for me at this point. Bing, on the other hand, it's something I'm trying right now.


12-22-2016 07:13 PM #2 vortex (Senior Moderator)

I don't have experience with SiteScout. But my focus is pop traffic so can list some popular sources: Popads, Propeller, and Zeropark are the big ones. For a newbie they should be enough to play on. Others to scale profitable camps to are Popcash, Adcash, Self-advertiser. There are a lot of smaller networks that you can explore yourself. These big ones should be enough for now.

(Disclaimer: STM does not endorse the use of any traffic networks. Please use them at your own discretion.)


As I said before, I have no real experience on AM so I've been reading many posts in the forum and kind of decided the best way to go is starting promoting sweepstakes and surveys in a tier 3 GEO
That would be a safe place to start, yes!

I've provided a very rough test strategy for sweeps on pop at the end of this post:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post293497


As for aff networks - this thread contains a list of newbie-friendly networks at the end of the first post:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-First-Network

(Disclaimer: STM does not endorse the use of any aff networks. Please use them at your own discretion.)


You mentioned a training course. Is it an online marketing, make-money-online type course? Just want to see if I could match that up with a suitable traffic type.




Amy


12-22-2016 09:45 PM #3 leonardoschwartz (Member)

Thanks so much for your help Amy!

I'll check the traffic source you mentioned here for sure. I've read quite a lot of ZeroPark in the forum...

About the course, it's not really a course but a group coaching program on selling certain kind of product in amazon. The cost is $997 and it's been selling pretty well to my list, but now I need to put more fresh blood in the pipeline.


12-23-2016 01:27 AM #4 vortex (Senior Moderator)

About the course, it's not really a course but a group coaching program on selling certain kind of product in amazon. The cost is $997 and it's been selling pretty well to my list, but now I need to put more fresh blood in the pipeline.
Ah I see! Is this course simple enough for the layman to understand?

If this was my course, I would create a simple "newbie course" from the original one - one that even people that have no previous online marketing experience can understand and use - and price it much lower.

Then, I would create an opt-in page with a relevant hook (something to do with making money from amazon - free ebook or email series with step-by-step method), and drive paid traffic to it to get people into the funnel. (Of course, the opt-in page will have to be very easy to understand for the common folk as well.)

Then I would pitch the newbie course to the list, and then pitch the coaching program to customers of the newbie course.

I don't know what your course is exactly about - so my suggestions may or may not apply. Just throwing ideas out there.



Amy


12-23-2016 11:55 AM #5 leonardoschwartz (Member)

Thanks for the ideas Amy. I'd normally do something like what you're describing, but the thing is that I have automated a webinar that I can use to build the list directly and that webinar converts at a high rate for this coaching program. So, in this particular case makes no sense to add more steps in the middle.


But anyways, I don't want to take the conversation away from the subject of this thread, I just mentioned this product to give a full picture of what I want to achieve and my overall plan of action but after your suggestions it's clear to me that sweeps on pop sources is going to be a part of that plan.

What I need to know now, and hopefully some other members can chime in, is some suggestions for media buy traffic sources since this is definitively something I want to master too. I mentioned before SiteScout but I could not find any discussions of this one so I don't really know if this is a good source to start my media buy career or there are better ones.


Finally, I'm not sure I totally get the difference in between pop sources like the ones you suggested and mobile traffic, if any. As per the description of sweeps campaigns I've been reading in the forum, it seems to me that these are in fact for mobile.

If that's the case I definitively want to try this traffic and strategies, but when I originally asked I was thinking in pop traffic sources for desktop. Are they the same or should I go with other traffic sources to do, let's see, pop unders on desktop?

Sorry for so many questions...!


12-23-2016 10:50 PM #6 vortex (Senior Moderator)

No need to apologize for asking questions! This is what this forum is for! Asking lots of questions is the best way to learn.

To clarify:

-Some sweeps offers will accept mobile traffic only, whereas others will accept both desktop and mobile traffic.

-You can run sweeps offers on pop traffic or mobile display traffic.

-Some traffic sources have both pop traffic and banner (display) traffic, some have either one type of traffic or another. Most pop traffic networks have both desktop and mobile traffic. But mobile display networks usually only have mobile display traffic and no pop.

If you're wanting to run sweeps on pop, you can choose to either target desktop or mobile, or you can target both.

If running sweeps on pop traffic sources is what you want to do, consider starting a follow-along thread to get feedback. I'll do my best to help as well.

As for media buying - I personally have hardly any experience in that area, and it's not really discussed a lot here. There are some older threads in this section that may or may not still contain applicable information:

http://stmforum.com/forum/forumdispl...Studies-Guides

Perhaps do some digging in there to see if you find any gems.



Amy


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