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12-21-2016 07:04 PM
#1
mobile_ad_monitor (Member)
STMers We Need Your Input! AI That Will Write For You!?
Paul Here,
My company has been developing artificial intelligence that can generate much higher quality content than anything currently on the market. Tools like WordAI and ArtificalForge are popular for internet marketers these days but our tool can write close to human level content at the click of a button.
We want to gauge the STM community and see what type of overlap a tool like this would have for the performance marketers and SEOers here.
Samples can bee seen here.
1. Would you use a high quality article generator?
2. How often would you use such a tool?
3. What price would you pay monthly for a tool that can do this?
We will add everyone's name to a list who provides feedback and be sure to offer an exclusive discount when we bring out tool to the marketplace.
P.S we were recently featured in VICE
UPDATE: If we had a tool could write better performing headlines for you based on good performing headlines would you use such a tool?
12-21-2016 08:25 PM
#2
shakedown (Member)
oh dude, I saw that VICE article. I had no idea it was a fellow STMer. Congrats on that.
I used to use WordAI back in my SEO days. In fact, I was one of the first beta testers. I can't think of any way non-SEO Affiliates can use a service like this EXCEPT for generating lots of content for safe pages ( for those who cloak). For example, Google Adwords likes unique content. So many affiliates put unique content on their safe pages instead of copy/pasting. Just a thought!
12-21-2016 08:59 PM
#3
vortex (Senior Moderator)
Congrats on your content tool! Where were you when I was doing SEO? 
I agree with shakedown - I don't think a lot of our members here are focused on content marketing. You never know though! Never hurts to ask!
Best I could do is bump this thread for you to get more eyeballs. Again congrats on your tool and best of luck!
Amy
12-22-2016 02:14 PM
#4
antuen (Senior Member)
This is awesome. I really need this for my blogs, for Native advertising.
12-22-2016 02:37 PM
#5
hunterxhunter (Member)
Since i do seo, and im very much interested in this. Im sure people would not mind paying upto 200$ a month for something of that capability(atleast i wouldnt)
But like guys above said, you will have much better chance at blackhatworld rather than here.
12-22-2016 03:06 PM
#6
manny (Member)
When do you plan to go live with this?
12-22-2016 03:17 PM
#7
buck johnson (Member)
Yes when do you plan to go live with this, I would love to use this tool.
12-22-2016 05:25 PM
#8
mobile_ad_monitor (Member)

Originally Posted by
vortex
Congrats on your content tool! Where were you when I was doing SEO?
I agree with shakedown - I don't think a lot of our members here are focused on content marketing. You never know though! Never hurts to ask!
Best I could do is bump this thread for you to get more eyeballs. Again congrats on your tool and best of luck!
Amy
Thanks Amy for the kind words!

Originally Posted by
shakedown
oh dude, I saw that VICE article. I had no idea it was a fellow STMer. Congrats on that.
I used to use WordAI back in my SEO days. In fact, I was one of the first beta testers. I can't think of any way non-SEO Affiliates can use a service like this EXCEPT for generating lots of content for safe pages ( for those who cloak). For example, Google Adwords likes unique content. So many affiliates put unique content on their safe pages instead of copy/pasting. Just a thought!
That's awesome that you happened to stumble on the article. That is an interesting need for content. I know there are a decent amount of people in advertising that need safe pages as well as native ad pages.

Originally Posted by
antuen
This is awesome. I really need this for my blogs, for Native advertising.
Thanks. Interesting, are you making money off of having native ads on your site or running native ads and sending people to sites?

Originally Posted by
hunterxhunter
Since i do seo, and im very much interested in this. Im sure people would not mind paying upto 200$ a month for something of that capability(atleast i wouldnt)
But like guys above said, you will have much better chance at blackhatworld rather than here.
Thanks for the Feedback Hunter. We figure Blackhatworld will be our primary place of attack but we wanted to test our theory that a lot of performance articles need content in some form or another and whether we could build something that really helps them.

Originally Posted by
manny
When do you plan to go live with this?
We are hoping to go live in about a month or 2 with this product.

Originally Posted by
buck johnson
Yes when do you plan to go live with this, I would love to use this tool.
We are hoping to go live in about a month or 2 with this product. And awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
12-22-2016 07:52 PM
#9
cmdeal (Veteran Member)
It is hard to judge without seeing it in action, but from the website, it seems like it is much more useful for an SEO play than for a native ads play ... would that be a fair comment?
Native ads are generally more like sales copy, whereas some of the content that you have shown on your website seems more academic ...
12-22-2016 08:49 PM
#10
TeamAragon (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
mobile_ad_monitor
Paul Here,
My company has been developing artificial intelligence that can generate much higher quality content than anything currently on the market. Tools like WordAI and ArtificalForge are popular for internet marketers these days but our tool can write close to human level content at the click of a button.
We want to gauge the STM community and see what type of overlap a tool like this would have for the performance marketers and SEOers here.
Samples can bee seen
here.
1. Would you use a high quality article generator?
2. How often would you use such a tool?
3. What price would you pay monthly for a tool that can do this?
We will add everyone's name to a list who provides feedback and be sure to offer an exclusive discount when we bring out tool to the marketplace.
P.S we were recently featured in
VICE
UPDATE: If we had a tool could write better performing headlines for you based on good performing headlines would you use such a tool?
Congrats on the feature at Vice. Wasn't clear about one part, can it automatically post articles to a blog? Would be cool to have a WP plugin of sorts to set frequency of posts.
- Brian
12-22-2016 10:35 PM
#11
hephaestus (Member)
my company uses spin rewriter. if you can show some side by side comparisons or a case study comparing your tool to others that'd be pretty compelling.
looking at the samples, they do seem well written in a grammatical sense. the flow is kind of awkard / all over the place, but it's technically correct.
I might use this for content outside of money sites (websites I care about / am trying to rank).
if you have a beta program or something i'd give it a shot
12-23-2016 05:29 AM
#12
affpayinggao (Veteran Member)
I would love to try this tool.
12-23-2016 06:07 AM
#13
manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
It is hard to judge without seeing it in action
That was exactly my thought. Samples can be chosen, but a live demo is always what shows the quality.
Very interesting project and I think you might get people to start projects using it even if all they do now is not relatable to it.. I would be someone who might spend some time with it
12-23-2016 01:53 PM
#14
mobile_ad_monitor (Member)

Originally Posted by
manu_adefy
That was exactly my thought. Samples can be chosen, but a live demo is always what shows the quality.
Very interesting project and I think you might get people to start projects using it even if all they do now is not relatable to it.. I would be someone who might spend some time with it

Well we hope to bring it live soon! Although those samples were at the time picked out of the best stuff we had written with this tool those samples are two months behind our newest quality which is even better. Obviously you'll get to see the stuff when we do launch, but we think it will make a splash

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Originally Posted by
affpayinggao
I would love to try this tool.
Awesome!

Originally Posted by
hephaestus
my company uses spin rewriter. if you can show some side by side comparisons or a case study comparing your tool to others that'd be pretty compelling.
looking at the samples, they do seem well written in a grammatical sense. the flow is kind of awkard / all over the place, but it's technically correct.
I might use this for content outside of money sites (websites I care about / am trying to rank).
if you have a beta program or something i'd give it a shot
Awesome! Yeah, trying to cleanup the awkwardness of paragraphs is something we've been working on improving. One route we are considering as well is to at some point hire VAs to edit articles to get them to money site level at a really low cost.

Originally Posted by
TeamAragon
Congrats on the feature at Vice. Wasn't clear about one part, can it automatically post articles to a blog? Would be cool to have a WP plugin of sorts to set frequency of posts.
- Brian
Yeah, our plan is to take advantage of a feature WordPress has built in called XMLRPC which will allow you to add your WordPress login details and automatically schedule posts to them.

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
It is hard to judge without seeing it in action, but from the website, it seems like it is much more useful for an SEO play than for a native ads play ... would that be a fair comment?
Native ads are generally more like sales copy, whereas some of the content that you have shown on your website seems more academic ...
Yes, I'd tend to agree although a lot of that feel is coming from the fact that we are training the models on acedemic text. If we had a demand for native ad related stuff we'd just need to scrape Native specific content to train our computers on.
12-23-2016 04:48 PM
#15
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
mobile_ad_monitor
1. Would you use a high quality article generator?
2. How often would you use such a tool?
3. What price would you pay monthly for a tool that can do this?
UPDATE: If we had a tool could write better performing headlines for you based on good performing headlines would you use such a tool?
I 100% believe your onto something. I've personally been learning how to code an AI bot over the last few months, and know that the desktop internet will be going away in the next 5-10 years, and be replaced by bots in virtual reality.
1.no, 2.--,3.--,4.no.
Personally, I believe the value of AI for marketing is in actually SELLING people. I think of 'Car Salesman Chatbot' or 'Garcinia Saleswoman Chatbot', etc. I believe the value of AI and bots in general is to give the internet a more personal feel.... so people feel one step closer to thinking they're interacting with a REAL person.
My goal is building little a little chatbot (that functions on a website/fb messenger/skype/sms) that boosts ROI in one specific industry vertical first, and basically optimizes its responses/messeges around a conversion point.
I believe the problem with AI right now is that every bot I've seen has no optimization point in which to judge, and modify its behavior around.
12-24-2016 02:09 AM
#16
erikgyepes (Moderator)
What an interesting times we live in!
So now Google's AI is competing with article writer AI, give me some popcorn!
Personally, I believe the value of AI for marketing is in actually SELLING people. I think of 'Car Salesman Chatbot' or 'Garcinia Saleswoman Chatbot', etc. I believe the value of AI and bots in general is to give the internet a more personal feel.... so people feel one step closer to thinking they're interacting with a REAL person.
This actually looks pretty real and valid use of AIs of this kind. Or imagine companies could "outsource" their supports to AIs..
12-24-2016 03:53 AM
#17
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
erikgyepes
What an interesting times we live in!
So now Google's AI is competing with article writer AI, give me some popcorn!
This actually looks pretty real and valid use of AIs of this kind. Or imagine companies could "outsource" their supports to AIs..
Well if you think about it, people want to interact with PEOPLE.
Or at least as close to that as possible.
You cant interact with a newspaper.
You cant interact with a tv.
You can interact with a website, but you know its not a person.
Chatbots on the other hand, have passed the Turing test (indistinguishable from human responses).
We program a chatbot to SELL, by getting some self-learning programming in there, and viola, you have a new breed of affiliate marketer.
I've been playing around with this site (
http://www.pandorabots.com/ ) among others to create my own artificially intelligent chatbot, learning artificial intelligence markup language ( see
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/aiml/ ) and have started going through this course ( see
https://academy.sciencealert.com/sal...rm=scsf-180660 ) to get a little better understanding of how to utilize AI.
If anyone is actively involved in the AI community, I'd love to chat sometime about what you see on the horizon and whatnot, hit me up on skype john_crestani
Eventually (5-10 years) when everything moves to AR/VR, everything is going to be artificially intelligent NPCs staffing EVERYTHING, its an extremely logical conclusion if you extrapolate current trends.
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