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12-10-2016 10:31 AM #1 geobak (Member)
Low Ticket Offers with Native - Help Needed?

Hey all,

So i have been running native ads for quite some time now mainly for offers with a payout between 70-300 dollars.

There are several low tickets offers ( between 10-20 dollars payout) that I would like to test with revcontent but the problem is that the minimum budget of 100 dollars per day per campaign means that I would have to spend 5-10x the payout daily which is a huge problem optimization wise.

How do you guys handle this?

Do you set up the campaigns and then pause them when you reach the payout? Whenever I've done this the performance is dropping significantly.

Any tips are highly appreciated


12-10-2016 10:53 AM #2 diesel (Member)

why are you not using one campaign for 3-5 offers ?


12-10-2016 10:56 AM #3 geobak (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by diesel View Post
why are you not using one campaign for 3-5 offers ?
Hey thanks for the reply. The campaigns are in different verticals - won'e the optimization be a pain in the ass?


12-10-2016 11:25 AM #4 diesel (Member)

your first step is test offers, not optimization. Need to optimization only working offers, than 100$ spend isn't a problem


12-10-2016 11:38 AM #5 geobak (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by diesel View Post
your first step is test offers, not optimization. Need to optimization only working offers, than 100$ spend isn't a problem
Yeah but still running 3-5 offers on the same campaign does not seem good to me.

First and foremost the offers most of the times target different countries which makes the thingie a lot more difficult.

But even if I get 3-5 offers targeting the same country and run them on one campaign the testing will be messed up because for example some of the offers might get all of the budget and some might not get any traffic.

Am I overthinking? I am sure there is a way to do this but I can't find it and this is why I am asking here.


12-10-2016 12:20 PM #6 clickwork7 ()

Don't mix geos in one camp.

Don't mix unrelated offers into 1 boost.

I think Diesel is talking about offer testing related offers in your chosen vertical for example if your running diabetes you'd run multiple diabetes offers in rotation to find the best offer.

I really don't understand why spending $100 or x5-10 offer payout is a problem on native...

IMO that's no where near enough to test an offer on native.

And if your moving beyond offer testing to WL'ing placements on a proven offer then again your budget minimum is going to make it very slow going.


12-10-2016 02:10 PM #7 diesel (Member)

clickwork7 - exactly!

geobak if you scare to spend money do step by step 1-2 campaign at same time. Native is not easy format, need to understand where your ads will show and how you can create it for real native (I mean native clickbite, news format, listing format, test or shock picture/text)


12-10-2016 08:11 PM #8 geobak (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by diesel View Post
clickwork7 - exactly!

geobak if you scare to spend money do step by step 1-2 campaign at same time. Native is not easy format, need to understand where your ads will show and how you can create it for real native (I mean native clickbite, news format, listing format, test or shock picture/text)
Guys,

As I said, I run native for more than 6 months for finance and other higher payout offers. Most of the times when I want to test an offer/angle etc I spend 1-2x payout per day for 3-4 days. The things is that these offers are between 10-20 dollars and the procedure I use to test offers is not working and I am trying to find a solution.

For example , I did a test with 2 offers with a 10 dollar payout in 2 different campaigns and I lost 190 dollars ( 19X the payout) and this is why I am trying to find a better solution.

If I don't - I will go back to the offers I already run


12-10-2016 11:56 PM #9 kalarr (Member)

Even if the offers are 10-20 dollars payout, $100/day spend shouldn't be a problem.

I usually want to spend at least $1k/day for testing no matter how much the offer payout is.


12-11-2016 09:48 PM #10 geobak (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by kalarr View Post
Even if the offers are 10-20 dollars payout, $100/day spend shouldn't be a problem.

I usually want to spend at least $1k/day for testing no matter how much the offer payout is.
If you've spent 200 dollars with no conversion do you continue until you spend 1k?


12-12-2016 12:03 AM #11 kalarr (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by geobak View Post
If you've spent 200 dollars with no conversion do you continue until you spend 1k?
I usually do research first to make sure some of my offers & landers actually convert, so I always have at least some conversions in my split-tests.

If a funnel has spent $200 without conversion, I'd check other split-test funnels' conversion and decide if I should keep spending or not.


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