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Part #3 - The ultimate guide about POP-traffic! (15)


11-28-2016 01:47 PM #1 mrbraun (Moderator)
Part #3 - The ultimate guide about POP-traffic!

Part #2: here

Landings


A lot of people who haven't worked in AM before have a question: What is landing?

Landing Page = Lading = LP = Lander - it's a page, which our traffic see, when traffic source give us these users.


How does it look? Usually it's only one page on the site which contains information about offers, motivating text that we write to get people to do the action which we need (install, subscription, registration etc...).

An example of the lander:



What can we see there:


I can't say that it's an ideal landing, but it's a normal landing.

Why we need to use LPs and motivate our traffic:
  1. As you can already know our traffic is not motivated, it's not a targeted traffic, and we can "catch" our traffic only with a lander.
  2. Offer's sites aren't enough motivating, they're so simple without any motivating text and they were made for traffic which is already motivated. If we talk about PINs, there can be only a logo, a form for phone number and a button. And how do you think, what would you do if you saw this site? I think you'd close the page, and 99% of visitors too.
  3. A lot of offers prohibit to send POP-traffic directly


You need to remember the main rule: Landing is your main weapon! Your ROI and profit will depend on how "catchy" it will be!


Agressive LPs


I thought about to write that or not, but I need to tell you. As you're on this forum I can say to you.

There is not a secret that 90% of affiliates who work with POPs are using aggressive landers. What calls "aggressive landers"? It's landers which contain aggressive elements which are prohibited:


To use or not to use - that's the question.

I want to say honestly: I use aggressive landers in my work, because they give me much more money than white LPs. Agree, people'll install an antivirus more likely when they see a text like "You have 3 viruses, you need to install an App to protect your system" than "You might have viruses, we recommend you to install an App to protect your phone". Even with other verticals. BUT! I use this kind of landers only for offers and networks which allow that. I recommend you not to lie your manager and always tell honestly what you want to use. He can help you a lot. And, of course, you can use any landers. White landers can give you a big profit too! I only tell you about a situation on the market and I need to tell you what is aggressive, because you can use it in the future and don't know about it.


Anti-Viruses


Now we'll consider what people're using for AV offers. I have to say that you can use this for PINs, 1clicks or installs. Just write for pins "Press the button and enter your phone number on the next page", for 1click: "Press the button and follow the instruction on the next page" and for installs: "Press the button and install the App from Google Play". It is very important to understand! Read your landers before running and don't use pin-landers for installs and vice versa.

What should be the perfect Landing for AV:


An example of one of the most popular LPs for AVs:


What can we see there:


An example of a good "white" lander:



You must decide for yourself what type of landers to use. I recommend to read offer's rules and understand what you can use and what not. Because some offers can allow aggressive text, but don't allow logos etc..


Carrot and stick


I have to say that all landings' texts can be divided into 2 types:
  1. Stick - there we scare people. "If you don't install an antivirus, your phone will be blocked, your data will be deleted, your brother will die etc..". So in this case we tell people about negative effects if they don't do an action.
  2. Carrot. In this case we tell people about positive effects if they do a lead. "Your phone will work faster on 66%, your battery will have %41 more power etc..". So in this type we work on people's wishes to make their phones faster.


What I prefer? I prefer to use Carrot, because I don't want to scare people. And also some people're using both of these types on one lander. And it can work fine. But be careful! Your lander must be short.


Sweepstakes


There are some types of landers for sweeps:
  1. Landers-surveys. It's landers where people need to pass a simple poll to win a prize, and as you can already guess, all people will pass it.
  2. Lander-Wheel of fortune. It's landers where people can spin a wheel and win a prize.
  3. Onepage-landers (like AVs)


An example of the lander:



What can we see there:


Another example:



I need to say that it's an example of an aggressive LP. Because there are:


Use these type of landers with caution.

Summing up
As you can understand most of people are using these 2 types of landers. They give the best results, but there're a lot of other landers which you can find in a SPY-Servive (We'll talk about it soon). Why these landers work good? Because people want to play. They want to win by themselves. And give them a chance to play, don't do a landing with "You won an iPhone" and a button to the offers. It won't work.

You need to choose a lander for you offers. Don't use lander with iPhone 6S for iPhone 6 offer and, of course, don't use iPhone lander of Samsung offers.


11-28-2016 01:48 PM #2 mrbraun (Moderator)

Next part: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ut-POP-traffic!


11-28-2016 03:09 PM #3 petal123 (Member)

Thanks a ton for this detailed guide about LP's. So many doubts got cleared


11-29-2016 11:04 AM #4 bgrigolava (Member)

Thanks for all your guides MrBraun...


12-12-2016 01:38 PM #5 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Very detailed - thank you!



Amy


12-16-2016 04:08 PM #6 vincent9 (Member)

good stuff. thanks!


02-28-2017 01:57 AM #7 arisisk (Member)

thank you so much..


03-17-2017 11:58 PM #8 thepinkcat (Senior Member)

Sorry to bump this old thread but it's a really good one!

Question -- if someone used one of these landers with the Google logo what are the chances they'd get sued? The Google antivirus one is particularly awesome I'd bet that would convert really well. But is it typically worth the risk against a huge company like G?


03-18-2017 09:40 AM #9 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by thepinkcat View Post
Sorry to bump this old thread but it's a really good one!

Question -- if someone used one of these landers with the Google logo what are the chances they'd get sued? The Google antivirus one is particularly awesome I'd bet that would convert really well. But is it typically worth the risk against a huge company like G?
Hi!
To be honest so much people are using these type of landers and I haven't heard about sue before. But, of course, it's dangerous.


04-02-2017 05:34 PM #10 leongyh (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
Hi!
To be honest so much people are using these type of landers and I haven't heard about sue before. But, of course, it's dangerous.
Hi mrbraun,
Do you cloak for aggressive lander ?
I am using aggressive AV lander at pop ads and Avazu dsp, the available volume are pretty low with good bid price. Can you recommend any ts should I try for aggressive av offer?


08-11-2017 09:47 AM #11 steve fen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by leongyh View Post
Hi mrbraun,
Do you cloak for aggressive lander ?
I am using aggressive AV lander at pop ads and Avazu dsp, the available volume are pretty low with good bid price. Can you recommend any ts should I try for aggressive av offer?
Very curious about whether or not a cloaker is necessary for these types of landers.. I have so many ideas that I could use on my landers, but at the same time I do not want to risk getting banned.

Also, how has anyone got experience when it comes to having a lander disapproved? What do traffic sources tell you when this happens? Do they give you a warning only, or is it instant banning?

Thanks!


08-11-2017 11:51 AM #12 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by steve fen View Post
Very curious about whether or not a cloaker is necessary for these types of landers.. I have so many ideas that I could use on my landers, but at the same time I do not want to risk getting banned.

Also, how has anyone got experience when it comes to having a lander disapproved? What do traffic sources tell you when this happens? Do they give you a warning only, or is it instant banning?

Thanks!
Aggressive landers have to be cloaked, the level of aggressiveness that requires cloaking depends on a particular network. Plugrush for example will be more lenient than propeller ... don't expect any network to approve LPs that post outward lies (scare warnings) though, those times are pretty much gone.

The disapproval process also depends on a few factors : if you are a new account and submit a couple very aggressive LPs straight away, you will get banned easier than an aged account with good history. Usually, they will just reject your LPs and tell you what was wrong, but if you keep on submitting the same over and over, you might run into trouble. This relates to LPs that get rejected upon campaign submission.

When it comes to networks detecting cloaking and aggressive landers, the ban hammer will strike quite fast these days.


08-11-2017 11:59 AM #13 bbrock32 (Administrator)

I doubt any network will approve straight virus landers these days.

You can try to cloak and make some money in the short term but things are getting tighter and tighter every day.

I would suggest instead focusing on something that takes a bit more effort but is more consistent than the cloaking rollercoaster.


08-11-2017 02:16 PM #14 steve fen (Member)

Practically every lander we see on spy tools like Adplexity are a no-no then (unless cloaking of course), meaning it's super difficult to have any profitable campaigns in the AV vertical. Guess we, new affiliate marketers, better become more creative to survive in the long term!


11-08-2017 04:04 PM #15 nitinsethi (Member)

One of the best on landers that i read!! Thank you so much @mrbraun


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