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11-24-2016 05:02 PM
#1
duaalem (Member)
POP ads or Native?
Hi guys,
I'am newbie, I made some campaigns using facebook as traffic source, I could get few leads but I loose much money on traffic & can't get profit.
Now I want to switch to another type of ads, I'am thinking of POPs & Native, I want your advice which is better for me as a newbie to start with?
11-24-2016 11:07 PM
#2
vortex (Senior Moderator)
If you're a newbie, then my answer is pop, 100%.
Some of the most major hurdles faced by newbies are: Not knowing how to analyze stats and optimize camps; being afraid to test different things; and most importantly, having the confidence to positively expect to hit on profits.
Pop will help to get over these hurdles a LOT faster than Native can, and for heck of a lot less money.
Basically, if you get a subscription at Adplexity, sign up to at least a few of the big affiliate networks, and test enough offers, you're almost guaranteed to get your first profitable campaign - that is, assuming you're willing to test enough offers and landers!
And if you stick to low-payout offers in tier 3 geos with less competition and cheaper traffic, then it probably won't take you nearly as much money to find your first profits on pop compared to native. Native has great profits potential, but traffic is expensive, so you'd need to promote offers with higher payouts and higher profit margins, which will require a lot more test budget.
Therefore, it would be better to use pop to learn the ropes first - you can make all your mistakes there without breaking the bank. And once you have more experience, move to native, FB etc.
Speaking of which, I would HIGHLY recommend that you move OUT of pop into these other traffic types, once you have some experience with stats analysis and camp optimization. Pop camps are easy to run, but competition is fierce, and campaign performance is erratic. A camp that's doing 300% ROI today may end up in loss tomorrow. It's still relatively easy to achieve xx-xxx/day in profits consistently if you work hard and know what you're doing, and perhaps even reach xxxx/day occasionally. But to stay at xxxx/day consistently with pop, it would be very difficult without using black magic, and/or or having your own team, and/or using automation to launch and optimize your camps. You'd need to be constantly testing to find new profitable camps to replace dying ones, and will probably burn out after a while.
If you'd like to give pop a go, here's a really simple strategy on pop+sweeps - you can find it at the end of the post:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post293497
Please also check out these strategies by members with experience in pop:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ic-(Algorithm)
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...able-Campaigns
Best of luck with whichever traffic type you may choose to experiment with!
Amy
11-25-2016 05:26 AM
#3
erikgyepes (Moderator)
I'm also voting for pops.
Huge volume, cheap traffic, lot of low payout offers, easy testing and no problems with traffic sources.
Go for it 
11-25-2016 01:53 PM
#4
duaalem (Member)

Originally Posted by
vortex
If you're a newbie, then my answer is pop, 100%.
Some of the most major hurdles faced by newbies are: Not knowing how to analyze stats and optimize camps; being afraid to test different things; and most importantly, having the confidence to positively expect to hit on profits.
Pop will help to get over these hurdles a LOT faster than Native can, and for heck of a lot less money.
Basically, if you get a subscription at Adplexity, sign up to at least a few of the big affiliate networks, and test enough offers, you're almost guaranteed to get your first profitable campaign - that is, assuming you're willing to test enough offers and landers!
And if you stick to low-payout offers in tier 3 geos with less competition and cheaper traffic, then it probably won't take you nearly as much money to find your first profits on pop compared to native. Native has great profits potential, but traffic is expensive, so you'd need to promote offers with higher payouts and higher profit margins, which will require a lot more test budget.
Therefore, it would be better to use pop to learn the ropes first - you can make all your mistakes there without breaking the bank. And once you have more experience, move to native, FB etc.
Speaking of which, I would HIGHLY recommend that you move OUT of pop into these other traffic types, once you have some experience with stats analysis and camp optimization. Pop camps are easy to run, but competition is fierce, and campaign performance is erratic. A camp that's doing 300% ROI today may end up in loss tomorrow. It's still relatively easy to achieve xx-xxx/day in profits consistently if you work hard and know what you're doing, and perhaps even reach xxxx/day occasionally. But to stay at xxxx/day consistently with pop, it would be very difficult without
using black magic, and/or or having your own team, and/or using automation to launch and optimize your camps. You'd need to be constantly testing to find new profitable camps to replace dying ones, and will probably burn out after a while.
If you'd like to give pop a go, here's a really simple strategy on pop+sweeps - you can find it at the end of the post:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post293497
Please also check out these strategies by members with experience in pop:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ic-(Algorithm)
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...able-Campaigns
Best of luck with whichever traffic type you may choose to experiment with!
Amy
Thank you very much, this is a very usefull advice that I will work on it, I wish I will do it in the right way & could get profits, I will buy adplexity & start.
11-25-2016 01:56 PM
#5
duaalem (Member)

Originally Posted by
erikgyepes
I'm also voting for pops.
Huge volume, cheap traffic, lot of low payout offers, easy testing and no problems with traffic sources.
Go for it

Thank you very much, this way of working what I need to start with.
11-26-2016 02:22 AM
#6
erikgyepes (Moderator)
Good luck and don't forget to start a follow along ;-)
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