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Hey everyone. Want to share a tool I've built. Thinking of making it a paid service.
Nothing is stored on the server, the app taps into Voluum and displays data, uploads stuff easily etc

Play around and write back. If enough interest, we'll make it open and paid.
Atm no FAQ or help exists.

https://vlmkit.com/

Thanks

Disclaimer: This tool is not associated with Voluum, just using Voluum's API to accomplish these tasks.

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Good tool.

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Do you really expect people to enter their Voluum credentials on that site ... just like that?

I'm not implying you're up to something fishy here, but nobody with at least one bit of sense for security can do this...

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Yes, you are correct.

Actually had this conversation already with someone.. dunno how one can be transparent with it since most APIs don't work
purely client side. Either way, most likely will not pursue this idea for a SaaS since it would be impossible ( at least at this point ) to give that much
needed sense of security and transparency

A self hosted version would be an option but then again distributed code versions would kill any fun in life )

The idea behind it was the similar tools that exist for Google Adwords, Adsense, Analytics etc. Same piece of cucumber pie where you
lack a set of tools in Google's platform, tools that are made available through third party services.

Maybe Voluum can take a short peak and implement some in the tracker -> life easier by 10x

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Yup, it's not easy to handle issues like this. I personally would never risk getting in touch with such sensitive data as Voluum credentials of others certainly are. Imagine that someone would hack your tool ... all the flame of the world would be turned at you.

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Hey!

Sorry. But I can't understand. What your service do?

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Well that's the thing: nothing is stored anywhere so hacking it would.. be useless. Nonetheless you do have a point

The problem with most APIs is that they don't have the CORS headers enabled so you can make them work purely
client side. This would be bliss since it would be 100% transparent of where the requests go to and where they're handled
plus HTTPS would ensure safety on the data transmission side.

Going back to scale some camps and stop tooling around

Thanks for the feedback btw

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All it would take is to inject a keylogger script in the tool and game over

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why not show screenshots with your own account?

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And yes screenshots. Here they are. Blurred out some stuff ( this would be a nice feature: autoscrambler for forum posting -> no more photoshopping stuff ) )

This is where you start off - getting into the right money making mood


Then there's the dashboard section where you get a bird's eye view over your traffic sources: visits, clicks, conversions, conversion rate, revenue
Thought this helps oversee things a lot better than what you can do in Voluum right now plus the interface is a bit laggy ( Angular after a certain point is a drag )


Then in each traffic source you have your camps. If you click on the TS name you get a new panel with graphs of your camps, same metrics


Next is the business intelligence section, good for spotting potential winners when mass testing, without having to go through each camp
manually -> again laggy interface and just takes time ( or I'm too focused on fixing stuff rather than launching camps ...... no answer needed )


This is a campaign overview with all the placements. You can select them and get a list that you can easily copy / paste in your traffic source, like when cutting placements.
Also, made a filter to quickly select different types of KPIs for those sections. Here the app splits the traffic into carriers and wifi traffic so you have it grouped.


Here's the mass offer uploader. Again, because of the lagginess and the offer upload flow, I decided to have it work a little faster and just click to upload once
I'm done with all offers. One further step will be to add the ability to have these offers directly into camps ( 2h of extra work )


The last part is campaign replication. When you want to scale, you just pick a "default" campaign you want to multiply, select all the traffic sources you want
this for, then replicate that. The system will go into Voluum, create all camps, then return the appropriate tracking links for each. I find it very easy to scale by
just following that list of camps. Once I'm done with 1, 1 CTRL Click on it and it goes away. This way you know how many sources you have left to scale.


Hope the above sheds some light.

However, as matuloo pointed out ( thanks again ), at this moment, in order to work, this app runs through one of my servers ( given how APIs work ).
Nothing is being stored on my servers as it acts as a relay BUUT I can't physically prove that so if you're stressed out about it, just look at the pictures

Cheers

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Well that's a potential threat to most apps given no database queries are made and nothing is writeable, I highly doubt it but the concern is valid and I'd hate to be proven wrong ))

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Even if your tool is really helpful nobody will enter their Voluum credentials, at least people that already have running campaigns. I've struggled with this for a while until people starting to trust my tool and this was after payment.

Lack of videos, screenshots also doesn't help. Probably you'll be able to sell a few subscriptions, but it won't be enough to be sustainable.

My suggestions is to:
- build a marketing website with demo video(or trial), faq, features, screenshots, about page, etc
- find some influential people in this space and partner up. They will transfer their credibility to your app and people will be more likely to try it out.

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Thanks mate for the feedback. I did expect this so there's no surprise.
Probably won't go this route

Cheers

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OP, I think you have some good ideas, but as several of the commentators have pointed out, it seems like as a business it faces 2 main challenges

1. Customers in this industry will be very reluctant to pass over their details to your service
2. Your service can easily become obsolete overnight if Voluum, Thrive, Funnelflux, etc decide to just replicate these features in their product ... which I imagine would not be that hard to do given their resources

I do like the way you approach problems, however, and I think you should try to team up with STM Ventures http://stmventurespartners.com/ to see if there are products that you can create together which may have much better commercial potential.

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Hi cmdeal and thank you for your feedback & advice.

For the reluctancy part, that is something I'm faced myself with other similar services and completely get the issue
and for the obsolete part ( at least in this particular case - where I built this for myself ) I kinda want to. I'll be better of
focusing on my camps than building addons to help me work faster. It'll be a plus for everybody.

Went over stm.ventures and will definitely hit them up. Takes a bit of time to see where the problems that need fixing exist
but it's in my plan to build tools for the long run.

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Considering it has taken Voluum years to even begin thinking about a straightforward feature like grouping campaigns together I'm not holding my breath ;-)

In all seriousness though, this tool reall looks useful. Nice work.

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Thanks mate

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Daniel, can't you approach Voluum? Maybe they buy your tool and integrate it into Voluum. They really lack some basic optimizing suggestions, something that even CPV lab had.

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I'm pretty sure if they're interested and IF it makes sense for their business plan, this is the playground to meet I'm not going anywhere )
Good thinking btw

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If you built it in Java as Voluum is built, probably they will be interested.

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Well there is no need for Java the Butt my friend and actually I'm a PHP dude and for web tech I lean towards that ( and it makes sense to most projects )
Most people tend to overlook it but it does the job right, fast and cheap ( keyword )

Cheerio

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I meant Voluum might be interested if you built the tools in Java so it will be much easier to integrate with their existing platform. If not, I'm not sure they will show any interest, they have lots of programmers who can work on new features if they really need them.

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Yes I know what you meant. Thanks for the tip btw. The presented tool is mainly used by me and a few friends to help get the chores done faster: traffic, campaign, offer analysis, uploads, scaling.
It increases productivity so you can focus on camps and whatnot.

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Maybe the tool is great (hard to tell) but the sale is being done in a horrible way to be honest. There's no explanation on the site of what the tool is, what the benefits are, some quotes of users using it for confidence building, how it works, screenshots, etc, etc. Not saying the tool has no value, it could be extremely valuable but its impossible to know it as your site does not contain any information. The only thing it says immediately on all pages is to login with your Voluum credentials.

With all respect for the effort, I don't think theres many big-ass affiliates out there who are going to fill out their login details without at least knowing (a bit) what the tool is about. I would also suggest a section where you explain what specific steps you as a company are taking to protect your users' data - i guess this will be a major point of concern for affiliates using your service.

Compare your website with the perfect sales-pitch on this site: https://6wamc.com/
It just makes you wanna participate in the course and pay the 3K$ with a smile on your face

Actually the hardest part is probably building the tool, the "easier" part is the sales pitch so you can make people even pay way more than the prices you suggested in the poll IF your sales pitch is good (big IF)

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Hey Chris

Great feedback and I appreciate it. You are correct. However ( and I do take this onto myself ), the tool as it is was not meant for public use meaning
we use it as an internal ( so to say ) software for a few folks that can use it independently ( hence the simple login and a publicly accessible URL )

The main purpose of this thread was for me to find out ( which I did ) if there would be interest in such an app ( so I don't spend time on something that makes no sense to ppl ) )
Btw, there's no comparison with the 2 sites: one is a great looking piece of cherry the other one was built ( UX wise ) in 1 day ( guess which one ) using bootstrap ( the most hated yet useful framework on the internets )

BUUT a big thanks for taking the time to write / visit -> will pay for a coffee at AWA if we meet

PS. I know the pitch sucks -> if it was selling life saving hummus, I wouldn't go for it ) had to sacrifice that for feedback speed

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Sure thing @danielt - make sure to stop by our booth E123 and we'll grab that coffee and have a chat!

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