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10-15-2011 09:20 PM #1 dudeman79x (Member)
AdMob Cheap Traffic

I've been running mobile stuff now for almost 2 years, profiting over $xx,xxx per day

Here is a method of how to set up your ad groups to get very cheap clicks. This still does work on AdMob, just not like it used to. I would also like emphasis that this method can be applied to other mobile ad platforms as well with a few modifications and testing.

Basically the main source I'm doing this with is Admob due to the sheer volume.
Go create a campaign, targeting just wap/mobile web.
- Create 1 campaign, and within that campaign create 10 different ad groups, each ad group should use unique banners.
- Select display ads accelerated
- Target your main country for your offer, but select ALL handsets and carriers
- I use a script which I place on my domain and its a carrier redirect. I set my affiliate links in there. So for the url I wanted to target in my ad, I would point to my domain which had the script set up. You don't necessarily need a carrier redirect script, but I use it if required because an offer only takes traffic from carriers ABC and XYZ
- Set your daily budget at $10
- Set your CPC at $0.20-$0.35 -> it varies on what your CTR% is
- After creating your campaign and having your 10 ads in there, copy the campaign 199 times, so in total you will have 200 campaigns and 2000 ads. If your lucky you have a script that does this for you as well. Use something like iMacro, easy to use, saves time.


Okay your probably wondering wtf, so let me explain. So since we have a wide audience we are targeting, plus selected display ads accelerated, plus the bid price is a bit high means we will see A LOT of traffic very very quickly. On avg I see about 2k-3k clicks for $10 which equals out to HALF A CENT PER CLICK! and sometimes less. Then factor in 200 campaigns and yeah there is volume. I have multiple accounts and bring in over 2 million clicks per day to whatever offers I'm promoting and I'm seeing epc's of anywhere from $0.02-$0.04 which is good considering my price per click.
This technique works at quite a few of the other ad platforms as well bringing me in even more clicks.

***Edit***

As of October 1st this method is not as strong as it use to be.
Here is my stats today for a Cupid dating offer, now at $0.02 EPC you can be sure I'm getting decent roi at the volume I'm doing.
Remember, test it out on other platforms.
Stick with easy dating offers.


10-15-2011 09:29 PM #2 tap1on (Member)

Sick post man!

So basicly you set ur budget to $10 but since you have so many ads you get clicks worth of much much more than $10?


10-15-2011 09:44 PM #3 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tap1on View Post
Sick post man!

So basicly you set ur budget to $10 but since you have so many ads you get clicks worth of much much more than $10?
Exactly... mind you this amount varies from depending on which ad network you run on.


10-15-2011 09:49 PM #4 MJDUB (Senior Member)

awesome post


10-15-2011 09:55 PM #5 shhhant (Senior Member)

the ad networks don't charge you anything over your $10 (or whatever minimum) budget? i've had bad experiences with web traffic where i would set a budget to $50 and due to the high volume of traffic I'd end up getting charged like $200 leaving my account at -$150.


10-15-2011 10:06 PM #6 tap1on (Member)

So in each adgroup you have unique banners, do you use the same banners in the other adgroups as well? How many banners aprox would you recommend?


10-15-2011 10:14 PM #7 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by shhhant View Post
the ad networks don't charge you anything over your $10 (or whatever minimum) budget? i've had bad experiences with web traffic where i would set a budget to $50 and due to the high volume of traffic I'd end up getting charged like $200 leaving my account at -$150.

Obviously they don't charge. If you look at my screenshot above, you'll see in hr 1 I ran 35507 clicks, now if I were charged $0.05 for each click I'd spent $1775 and change meaning a HUGE loss. I was over 150% roi on that run.


10-15-2011 10:33 PM #8 shhhant (Senior Member)

thanks for your reply dudeman, appreciate it. if you don't mind me asking also, how many ads do you normally put in each ad group?


10-15-2011 10:34 PM #9 Mr Green (Administrator)

Nice post dude!

I tried this out on two other big platforms, but no success with getting uber cheap clicks. Will hunt around some more.


10-15-2011 10:38 PM #10 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
Nice post dude!

I tried this out on two other big platforms, but no success with getting uber cheap clicks. Will hunt around some more.
Mojiva has it, JT has it, but they have been known to make switched on my campaigns.
Adultmoda, Buzzcity and targeting mobile on Adwords has it, but just to note that they charge a max of 20% of your daily budget per campaign for any overrun.


10-15-2011 10:45 PM #11 tap1on (Member)

Don't spoil the fun, we want some challenge atleast bro


10-15-2011 11:15 PM #12 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tap1on View Post
So in each adgroup you have unique banners, do you use the same banners in the other adgroups as well? How many banners aprox would you recommend?
In the first ad campaign you create you will have a total of 10 different banners. Then after you have created the 10 ad groups in your ad campaign, you use the copy campaign feature and copy that campaign another 199 more times.


10-16-2011 12:23 AM #13 shhhant (Senior Member)

^^so every ad group in the campaign has the same 10 ads?

edit: nvm, i think i figured out the answer thanks


10-16-2011 12:46 AM #14 sntr (Member)

yes this is really brilliant method to kill all legit camps for all legit affiliates because you bid so high


10-16-2011 12:54 AM #15 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

it's not going to work..thanks for making this method useless...


10-16-2011 12:58 AM #16 polarbacon (Moderator)

seems like to me that if the ad network wanted too they could easily charge you for those overages..... I understand now at this moment they might not be but its def gaming the system cuz at any time they could say "you need to pay for those clicks"......

kinda a fair amount of risk imo


10-16-2011 01:27 AM #17 dudeman79x (Member)

It's not going to work? Well it's been almost 2 months since I've mentioned this. Everyone just goes to Admob, there are other places.

Charge for the overages... they can, but that is why I read their terms. Ex. Adwords mobile side charge a max of 20% of your daily budget of your campaign, others don't. As for gaming it, yeah maybe, but in the AdMob Adv tips they mentioned making a bunch of small campaigns, and that is what I did

Just about 2 years running daily on AdMob without issue and many months at a few other platforms....


10-16-2011 01:44 AM #18 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dudeman79x View Post
It's not going to work? Well it's been almost 2 months since I've mentioned this. Everyone just goes to Admob, there are other places.

Charge for the overages... they can, but that is why I read their terms. Ex. Adwords mobile side charge a max of 20% of your daily budget of your campaign, others don't. As for gaming it, yeah maybe, but in the AdMob Adv tips they mentioned making a bunch of small campaigns, and that is what I did

Just about 2 years running daily on AdMob without issue and many months at a few other platforms....
I don't doubt you one bit you def have the numbers to back it up....just saying that they can change their terms at anytime....as its stated in most T+C....

It just would kinda hurt if you woke up one morning to a $xx,xxx additional charge....was all I was saying....and there is very little you could do....to dispute it...besides not pay.....


don't think I am hating on your post its good stuff....something I will def test.....but also just like people to know that there could be some risk there as well.....


10-16-2011 02:46 AM #19 Mr Green (Administrator)

I doubt they will have any grounds for charging you for something buggy with their platform. In the end you are only setting your budget to $10. If they can't serve that and only that, then thats their problem.


10-16-2011 04:47 AM #20 phoenix (Member)

wow... once again some one shares some info and there are more 'attacks' than 'thanks'

anyone want to tell me how this is going to encourage anyone who is not a mod to share ?!


10-16-2011 12:28 PM #21 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by phoenix View Post
wow... once again some one shares some info and there are more 'attacks' than 'thanks'

anyone want to tell me how this is going to encourage anyone who is not a mod to share ?!

Think most of this thread is very positive comments overall.....

my only concern was over getting charged for the click overage......having done similar things on platforms like bing and facebook and I can tell you that you do get charged....

sounds like in the mobile world you don't....which is great to hear...I know I def leaned something....

and I think it was a great share...


10-16-2011 03:47 PM #22 richardx (Member)

thanks for share chris. im going to test them. but when create campaigns on buzzcity. there can't create ad groups for upload different banners?


10-16-2011 04:51 PM #23 dudeman79x (Member)

Yeah, just upload all your creatives. Some places don't have ad groups, but the principle still applies of low daily budget and higher then avg bid. This way your getting a nice short burst of traffic and by the time the servers know that you hit your daily budget you have a nice over run


10-16-2011 05:46 PM #24 shhhant (Senior Member)

do you just set all 200 campaigns live in the morning and run that short burst once? or do you set them live in batches... like 50 or 100 at a time?


10-16-2011 06:10 PM #25 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by shhhant View Post
do you just set all 200 campaigns live in the morning and run that short burst once? or do you set them live in batches... like 50 or 100 at a time?

After you finish creating all 200 campaigns PAUSE them all right away, or else once they are approved they will ALL go live NOT GOOD!!!

So yeah once approved launch one, then once that $10 budget is gone, work you way down and release the next.


10-16-2011 07:54 PM #26 tap1on (Member)

"You have exceeded the maximum number of active ads in an account. You must delete some ads before attempting to create any additional ads."

Damn..


10-16-2011 07:58 PM #27 shhhant (Senior Member)

damn. what network was that tap1on?


10-16-2011 08:52 PM #28 tap1on (Member)

admob, 2000 ads is the max amount you can have.


10-17-2011 07:46 PM #29 shhhant (Senior Member)

Well, I set up ads after I saw this thread and just got hit with this

"Your account has been disabled for invalid activity or repeated policy violations. Some examples include recurring manual clicks or impressions, violation of our content policies which can be found here, robots, automated click and impression generating tools, third-party services that generate clicks or impressions such as pay-to-click, pay-to-surf, autosurf, and click-exchange programs, or any deceptive software. If you have any questions or concerns about the actions we've taken, how you can appeal this decision, or invalid activity in general, you can find more information here."

My AdWords account was suspended a week or two ago so I'm not sure if that is the reason why my AdMob account got disabled now. I honestly have no fucking clue what to do. I sent them a message and am waiting to hear back.


10-17-2011 07:51 PM #30 corp (Member)

Did you think you could game their platform and they'd just be okay with it? You're effectively stealing money out of their pockets. Of course they're going to disable your account. Just like any other mobile ad network out there.


11-01-2011 06:23 PM #31 ipomea (Member)

LOL, 3 milion CTR! That´s insane man. Well done.


11-01-2011 06:33 PM #32 ipomea (Member)

This is a mix of admob and JT over run
Just to make sure, you meant adwords and JT over run, right?


11-01-2011 07:18 PM #33 chateau (Member)

Unreal $280 spent for 4792.00, WOW is all I can say. Very inspirational


11-01-2011 08:04 PM #34 chateau (Member)

I'm wondering if you can direct link dating offers on AdMob. I know Google hates affiliates pushing dating offers,since they own AdMob now what is the deal? I don't want to risk my ADMob acct getting banned because of their "thin affiliate" bullshit rule. You guys direct linking your offers still?


11-01-2011 08:12 PM #35 mwhiz (Member)

dudeman, are you direct-linking or using a LP for that offer? I noticed your EPC was pretty high, so I'm guessing you're using a LP?


11-01-2011 08:55 PM #36 dudeman79x (Member)

@ ipomea: Yeah AdMob and JT

@ Chateau: You can direct link dating offers.

@ mwhiz: I use my own landing page, 2 simple fields, makes it convert really well.


11-01-2011 09:34 PM #37 ipomea (Member)

Let me ask differently:

When you create your campaigns you go to admob.com or to adwords.com?

I´m sorry to ask, it wasn´t clear.


11-01-2011 10:02 PM #38 chateau (Member)

I create my ads in AdMob. Maybe create ads in BOTH and get even more traffic...


11-01-2011 10:03 PM #39 tap1on (Member)

ipomea you can do both, he wrote it in the first page of this thread.


11-01-2011 10:15 PM #40 cutter (Member)

You guys can figure this out on your own he has already given out enough.


11-01-2011 11:19 PM #41 dudeman79x (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ipomea View Post
Let me ask differently:

When you create your campaigns you go to admob.com or to adwords.com?

I´m sorry to ask, it wasn´t clear.

ADMOB


I do not know how I can be anymore clearer


11-01-2011 11:27 PM #42 chateau (Member)

lol that's pretty F'N clear, haha


11-01-2011 11:38 PM #43 ipomea (Member)

lol, sorry dude.


11-01-2011 11:54 PM #44 dudeman79x (Member)

@ ipomea: lol no problem


11-02-2011 12:32 AM #45 stevenbell (Member)

anyone knows how long it takes for ads approval?


11-02-2011 01:34 AM #46 dudeman79x (Member)

a few days


11-02-2011 03:04 AM #47 chateau (Member)

mine took 10 mins today on a brand new acct


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