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Answered.. Are Carrier Specific Offer Pages Really Like the Screenshots Provided (19)

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So I've been on the hunt for a way to get a better look at the actual offer pages for offers that are specific to certain carriers. The 1/2 click carrier billing offers that do not allow wifi and are specific to a certain geo/mobile carrier. In many cases, networks either provide a screenshot (some do / some don't), a preview link (that usually doesn't work or redirects you) and in some cases there no way at all to view the actual offer page.

While the method I've found is not ideal, it has validated a few points for me..

1. A majority of the time, offer pages for carrier specific offers DO NOT look like the provided screenshots or preview links AND are often misrepresented.
2. Some networks provide more accurate screenshots than others.
3. Most of the time the offer pages are very boring and if they do convert by direct linking, you can probably make it work better with your own lander (I've yet to fully tested this). And while I've not had too much experience with these offers at this point.. I've been trying to find a way to view the ACTUAL offer pages so I can build landers that are better suited to the offer vs. just guessing.
4. Some of these offer pages do show up in AdPlexity.. perhaps these are the offer pages that are not strictly limited to carrier only traffic.
5. One offer that has converted very well for me on a handful of placements (as in $10-20/profit a day per placement, on about 3-4 placements).. the offer page is extremely generic and I would never have thought it to convert so well.
6. I think that the placement of the subscribe button has a big influence on the CR of the offer. (Theory still to be fully tested.)
7. Some 1-click offers will actually have a 2 page flow.. offer page lander > click subscribe > 2nd offer page lander with yes/no confirmation required.


Here are some examples of my discovery. Showing the network screenshot or preview link, compared to the actual offer page...

Let me define how I checked these offer pages..

1. Network Screenshots / Preview URLs - Were founds by the networks I used in this test and the offer only worked for 1 geo and 1 carrier.
2. Actual Offer Page - Is the first page seen when a visitor goes through the affiliate link for the required geo/carrier.







Some of the more experienced STM'ers may already understand this or have methods of checking for themselves but this was very insightful to me and thought others would benefit from it.

I'm not sure it's always worth the time or expense in checking these offer pages vs. just throwing up a quick test.. BUT, it would be wise of both the networks and advertisers to provide more accurate information to affiliates on the offer landing pages so that we can better align our marketing efforts. And perhaps make more of these offers work.



Andrew

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Oh yes, this is the case so often. Many networks don't have any screenshots at all and those that have are often not up to date - advertisers split test their offer landers too and don't always report this to the networks. I was trying to see the actual pages too, but after some time I just gave up on it and resorted to simply testing new offers with a burst of traffic to see whether they have potential or not. I only try to research this when the offer lander could get me into trouble because of strict traffic source rules OR when an offers shows promise but I can't push it into profit from whatever reason - in such case I'm trying to modify the funnel to suit the offer lander better.

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Why not use a VPN? to test where the actual tracking link goes...

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I did test where the actual affiliate tracking link goes. The challenge is viewing affiliate offers that only accept certain carriers and will not show you the offer page with a basic VPN set to that GEO.. but you also need to have a mobile carrier IP connection for the carrier that the offer accepts. Otherwise it will redirect you to a different page or it may simply say the page isn't accessible.

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Very insightful post MrPayne! You're on fire - thanks to all your recent contributions to the forum!

Regarding viewing carrier offers accurately: I've resorted to just paying people on Fiverr to get me screenshots from their phones.

It's a lot of bother because you have to use separate people for each carrier in each geo - but if you have a few geos you're focusing in, this is doable.

Instead of posting a request and waiting for people to come to me, I would just message a bunch of freelancers from the target geo to see who would be interested.

Here's the message I would send:

And then once we come to an agreement, I would send them the task like this:



Of course, offers that only require a screenshot of the first screen are 1-click, and those that require clicking to the next screen are 2-click offers.

Hope this helps someone!



Amy

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That's a good option as well Amy. I was looking for a solution that allowed me to speed up my research and have found a solution but its a bit pricey, so not the best option for me at the time. But I was able to negotiate a short trial period. This tool is a VPN style tool but has access to a couple dozen major carriers from around the world, giving me the mobile carrier IP connect that I needed.

But your method, while more to manage, is definitely a less expensive option right now. Thanks for sharing!





Andrew

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Nice! My buddies and I have looked into various services as well, but as you said they're expensive as hell, and inconvenient to use. Glad you've found something that works for you!


Amy

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I also tried geoedge for this task - and it useful - but the limited on carriers/geoes option

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Hi Amy

Do you know if it's possible to have your fiverr workers donwload the html of the lander on their phone and/or tablet? I googled it but all the hits I got are talking about ways to donwload the website as pdf and various other ways to just save the website (not html)

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Look for a fiverr guy with coding experience - they can use an agent emulator and download the LP for you on a PC.

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Hmm.. Are there agent emulators that can emulate specific carriers or will they use 'personal hotspot' on their phone and just emulate a smartphone or how does it work?

Can you recommend a good emulator?

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I use the normal Useragent in Chrome to emulate the Device. For carriers you need Geoedge, Proxypony and similar services - attention you have to book carrier packages, the normal plan is only for normal WIFI. Have not find yet something that works 100% reliable. So rather do the Vortex hack with Fiverr people. Carrier testing is a pain in the ass, we have simply guys that reload our Simcards weekly in the countries we work in.

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Do you use a VPN or are the owners smart enough to block most VPNs?

Edit: Given that VPN ranges usually are from data centers, i.e. for seeing 1 click mobile flows. I.e. offers that only accept Carrier A normally does it by only allowing IP addresses from carrier A.

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Most networks block the VPNs to hide who is the offer owner. So they can not be jumped by their pubs. Offer owners usually dont do that because they would be even happy if a new affiliates signs up. From offer owner side there are some options if you come over WIFI or wrong carriers: Show the same offer with an error message, show a WIFI flow, show the offer proper and only the billing does not work or report simply something like your carrier is not supported.

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Hello Mr. Payne!

Thank you for this post, it is useful for us too, as a network, as a reminder to update our landers often, and I completely understand your pain.
Besides Geoedge, that we mostly use, there is a free tool - https://affilitest.com/, you can login there for free, and check the link up to 5 times. Sadly it doesn't allow you to set the carrier, but at least you get an approximate understanding of what's going on.

I am not really sure how it works with other networks, but our settings allow to turn off the Safety fallback (redirect of traffic from a "wrong" segment to the algorithm) and force the offer, so even being with a wrong GEO/carrier/device I am still able to see the landing page. Check if it is possible with your network too!

Hope it helps,
Cheers!

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I'm using browser extensions for this as well, just as blueflag recommended. You need to find a fiverr guy with the proper sim card in the GEO of your interest.

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I got also the BEST results with local people in those geos.

I have a small team in most countries, so once I need to test something I can have results on email in few hours.

It's really useful to get offers checked as many times there could be errors on the offer page which is the main reason they do not convert.

It seems like a stupid mistake from advertiser side, but it happens so often:

CSS is not loading properly - boom offer page is screwed (my offer didn't converted some days, after checking it I find out their CSS is broken)

Errors on their PHP/Java backend - no chance to convert again.

Slow loadings etc.

It's not easy to set this up, but it's totally worth it.

It will also help you to understand the offer flow better.

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Tested Affilitest.com. Couldn't get it to work for any carrier, from Paraguay, to Sierra Leone, Italy, Australia and Thailand. Most offer owners block it pretty well, or at least the carrier does. You'll end up seeing the wifi page, pin fallback or just a proxy error.

The only reliable way to check landers is to use real sim cards. We've tested Luminati and many others (including the above one). If anyone has something that actually works, I'd love to test it.

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Hi! You are right about affilitest. The results are not always as precise as we'd love them to be.
We have seen one tool that, as they say, allows you to test the offers as if you were using a 3G with particular operator. Not sure if it works - we haven't tested yet. But seems interesting to discover https://www.simtest.it/

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