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10-10-2016 02:51 AM #1 salamander (Member)
Tracking PopAds.net through Voluum

I have a question about tracking traffic from popads.net using Voluum. I searched the forum but couldn't find a specific answer to this question. Many other traffic sources include an externalid which gets fed through the system at each step and links back ultimately to a conversion. I'm trying to get a campaign going using popads.net and it would appear they do not provide a clickid/subid (externalid). I apologize if this question is a little too basic, but I'm curious as to what data to pass to the landing page links in lieu of a clickid. I'm sure someone here has used this combination and knows what to do. Thanks

10-10-2016 05:03 AM #2 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Hey @salamander,

What exactly are you trying to achieve?

You want to send conversions back to Popads?

Regarding tokens, Popads have a nice list of all tokens on this page: https://www.popads.net/kb/advertiser.

You can alternatively find all token information for the most used traffic sources at: http://trackingtokens.com/

10-10-2016 05:09 AM #3 salamander (Member)

Hi erikgyepes

I don't want to send conversions back to popads, let me detail the full scenario:

I have an offer which is a non self-hosted landing page. I need to be able to track individual requests to the page so that they can be passed to the affliate network, then back to Voluum (so I can see the specific details of the popup view which lead to the conversion). The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a specific ID for the page visit, coming back from Popads, so I'm not sure what to pass as my clickid to track the session.

I have a second question as well. When dealing with CDN hosted landing pages, how would we track any of the URL parameters given that there's no PHP, in order to forward to the offer URL? I'm afraid I'm a bit lost. Thanks for any help.

10-10-2016 05:15 AM #4 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Hey @salamander,

I can answer your second question first - it doesn't really matter if you host on VPS or CDN, you still can send your tokens from Voluum to the landing page in the URL get parameters like this: index.html?brand={brand}&model={model}.

The on landing page you can easily extract these from the URL using these scripts: http://feedback.Voluum.com/knowledge...eter-on-lander

Just remember that the key here is to send these tokens when you setup new lander in Voluum.

Regarding first question I'm bit confused to be honest - do you have problems with postbacks then?

10-10-2016 05:22 AM #5 salamander (Member)

Thanks for the answer to the second q - I'll read it in a moment but I'm sure it will answer the question. Regarding the first question, I've been running offers where the general flow was:

Traffic source points to Voluum URL
Voluum extracts clickid
Voluum forwards clickid to affiliate link
Customer converts and affiliate network does postback of clickid and payout to voluum

(this process above is no problem, it seems to work fine for sources like go2mobi or startapp)

My issue now is that it doesn't seem Popads offers an id for the session (ie. clickid), so I'm not sure what to pass along to the landing page in order to track the session end-to-end. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the tokens popads.net offers, but even in the template that Voluum sets up for that traffic source, externalid is left blank (that's usually the proxy for clickid). So I'm just not sure what to use for the unique id when using popads. Sorry my question is unclear. Thanks again.

10-10-2016 05:29 AM #6 salamander (Member)

I think I just figured it out - clickid only comes from the traffic source when you need to relay it back to the traffic source for full end-to-end conversion tracking - otherwise Voluum will generate it's own clickid. Does that sound right?

10-10-2016 01:17 PM #7 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by salamander View Post
I think I just figured it out - clickid only comes from the traffic source when you need to relay it back to the traffic source for full end-to-end conversion tracking - otherwise Voluum will generate it's own clickid. Does that sound right?
Yes! You got it!


Amy

10-10-2016 06:43 PM #8 salamander (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Yes! You got it!


Amy
Thanks, making a lot more sense now.

10-11-2016 04:38 AM #9 erikgyepes (Moderator)

So everything works as it should now?

10-11-2016 06:07 AM #10 salamander (Member)

Yeah, everything works, I was missing one fundamental part of understanding, but now it's clear to me. Thanks for the other info regarding JS extraction of querystring params - I figured it was possible, just means you have to play with the DOM to inject hidden form fields for passing onto the affiliate network - shouldn't be a problem.

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