First FA. Read the Cookbook: Appetiser. First step: make dough. (17)
First FA. Read the Cookbook: Appetiser. First step: make dough.
Starting a campaign for an offer from MB. Mobile offer, I took some direction from the cookbook to do mobile and picked an offer accordingly. Right now I am in contacts with my friend who is experienced with PS and graphics programs to make me a banner consisting of an image I drew up. My target will be on college students.
I am using Go2Mobi as my traffic source and I plan on testing one banner and one angle, for now. The minimum daily budget is a little high, $50. Does that mean it will spend $50 at least per day on one campaign, if I let it run?
I am planning on starting the campaign in the next 3-4 days, I want to get this banner worked out, and my targeting a little more narrowed-down before I make it go live.
This is what's going on so far, I am tracking this camp with prosper202. I set-up the tracking with MB and prosper202, but not with Go2Mobi, does that make any difference?
Hopefully I get one conversation out of this, that's the goal. I had done Facebook marketing before, spent a sizeable amount with 0 conversations, so I hope I get things right this time.
Love and accept all words!
Originally Posted by tkthepoet
I applaud you for wanting to try your own creatives straight from the start, however, it is also a good idea to take/rip a few banners somewhere so you have something to compare the performance of your own banners with.
You want to target college students, however, this is not possible on go2mobi, they don't offer such targeting. To work with these sources, you need creatives and offers that cater to a wider audience - your angle might still work, but keep this in mind.
$50 per day budget with networks like go2mobi mean that they will not spend more than that per day on that campaign. How much you actually spend depends on how you setup the campaign, In case you limit the targeting or bid low, they might not send you any traffic at all.
You can track with an external tracker or use the go2mobi system, either will work. I personally prefer to keep my data private so I always use external trackers.
Congrats on taking and action and good luck
Originally Posted by tkthepoet
I don't know much about prosper + go2mobi
as mostly i worked on desktop (don't know why LOL )but be sure You're passing all tokens to track each & everything . It's very important.
Anyway looking forward
Great that you're getting started and taking action!
One warning: test more than one banner. The Cookbook recommends testing multiple banners for a reason - it massively increases your chances of success.
Good luck, and I shall look forward to future updates!
Originally Posted by matuloo
I applaud you for wanting to try your own creatives straight from the start, however, it is also a good idea to take/rip a few banners somewhere so you have something to compare the performance of your own banners with.
You want to target college students, however, this is not possible on go2mobi, they don't offer such targeting. To work with these sources, you need creatives and offers that cater to a wider audience - your angle might still work, but keep this in mind.
$50 per day budget with networks like go2mobi mean that they will not spend more than that per day on that campaign. How much you actually spend depends on how you setup the campaign, In case you limit the targeting or bid low, they might not send you any traffic at all.
You can track with an external tracker or use the go2mobi system, either will work. I personally prefer to keep my data private so I always use external trackers.
Congrats on taking and action and good luck
Are there any things I should keep in mind in terms of setup? I see somethings I'm not too familiar with, such as "Placements" with a bunch of serials and (site/app) beside it.
I now see that there isn't exactly a "college student button" that I can press, so I might focus on targetting the time that my audience will likely use the Web at that time.
And I'm glad that you also use External trackers, reassures me in me using mine haha.
Originally Posted by caurmen
Ok, noted, I will test 3-5 banners then. Originally the Cookbook recommended 320x50 pixels but is that a hard rule? My aff network offers creatives that are not that size or shape for that matter, and I am curious if I can still use them.
Originally Posted by kash580
I don't know much about prosper + go2mobi
as mostly i worked on desktop (don't know why LOL )but be sure You're passing all tokens to track each & everything . It's very important.
Anyway looking forward
I will look out for my settings, my friend, thanks for your words!
Nope, 320x50 is just the most common size, and thus recommended to avoid people having to think about it or make a choice with tiny volume. If you know you have a decent-volume source of traffic at another size, by all means test it.
As a rule I'd avoid using network-provided creatives, though. They tend not to convert very well.
I'd also recommend upping the number of banners still further. 8 is a good number.
Looking forward to your first results!
Ok, took a little longer than planned but I'm ready to start now!
I went back and created some more banners and now I have 8. Go2Mobi now says "pending" under "Exchanges" and "Creatives". Am I good now and just have to wait for that e-mail approval before I can launch the camp?
Also, if anyone could give me some understanding on the targetting options. For example, what's "placements", "Build remarketing list", and "Auto Rules". Jeez, those looks confusing haha.
Thank you!
Originally Posted by tkthepoet
I would check out the go2mobi knowledge center, should help explain a lot of their targeting options.
https://go2mobi.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
Appreciate that tstack! I will give it a look but I am too excited right now so I just went ahead and livened it!
Originally Posted by tkthepoet
Auto rules are their predefined option that they have, its a pretty new thing - for example block a placement that is not reaching certain CTR. These are set for a certain period of time.
Remarketing is basically placing a cookie into the computer of users that clicked on your banners already (for example) so you can later target just these people. The theory is - those who already clicked on your banner are interested in what you are promoting, so targeting them again should bring better results.
Congrats on launching your first campaign BTW
0 conversions
$31.10 spent
0.53% CTR
In the cookbook Appetiser it recommends if no conversion, and everything is set up right, to pick a new offer and rinse and repeat. However, I read in another thread, where the guy made over 3 commas in 6 months, he said, if there was no conversions, you just haven't targetted/optimised right.
When I read that, I thought it made a lot of sense. I know it's recommended to newbies to just pick a new offer. However, is it just as opportune for me to continue with this offer, perhaps make new banners/angles, as opposed to jumping to another offer?
I mean, I have some stats now, so if anything, I have a slightly higher head-start than if I were to start a new camp on a new offer....right?
And thanks matuloo, for your reply, I checked out your blog btw, seems like the perfect blog for someone like me
Either drop the offer now (not unreasonable given your stats - NO conversions after that spend is a red flag even if you're new) or pick a new (significantly different) angle. If that angle doesn't work, definitely try a new offer.
2 angles is a good basic test to see if an offer has any potential, but zero conversions on a decent spend is also a pretty significant red flag.
Most offers aren't that good. Quite a few will basically never convert profitably.
Finding a good one is the biggest part of the affiliate battle. The quickest way to get to profit as a new affiliate is to test a lot of angles.
I can't recall the thread you mentioned, but I suspect the writer was talking about offers that he or she was able to vet much more carefully than most new affiliates. Certainly, I know of a few large-scale affiliates who will keep on hitting an offer until they make it work, but only if they are 100% sure that others are already succeeding with the exact offer/payout/network combination they're testing.
Ready to launch second campaign with a new offer from mPire! Just getting some text translated to the language of the geo. I'm starting to enjoy creating banners and having basically unlimited creative freedom. Although that could be a bad thing for me 
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I know my schedule is slightly scattered and not very frequent, but between working a daytime job and newly moving out and trying to get pussy, I'm trying!
Thank you to everyone who has followed so far, I will bring you all good news soon!
Results from 2nd Campaign with new offer:
Iphone sweepstake, split into 4 campaigns by carrier
Tested first carrier:
75k Impression, 235 clicks, 0.31% CTR, 0 conversions.
I think more to perhaps the offer not being good, although the LP looks very solid, I think the banners I'm creating just aren't up to par. I'm thinking I need to rip some banners for now, and test ripped banners.
Any suggestions on this campaign, and good spy tools for Display traffic? My budget is a little tight, but I may be able to wedge in a monthly fee for the spy tool, but if there are other ways for now, I'm all ears!
Thanks!
Also, if anyone is able to, I would like to PM you my banners, and we can discuss any areas they might need work on.
Third Campaign
Geo: Tier 3 countries
Offer: Mobile app installs, it's a multi-country one, so I picked 3 geos and they have an avg payout of $0.50
Ripped 2 banners from adplexity, I know it's not 8 like recommended but for this offer, and for Adplexity in general, there are very little useful banners per offer
Ran the 2 banners for each geo, so:
2 banners
3 offers
2 OS (Android/iOS)
$10 budget for each
Results:
The android version of the offers ran up the budget quickly, after 4 hours, ~$10 was spent, for the iOS version, around ~$2-3 was spent.
1 conversion for the android version for one geo. I couldn't see which banner and which placement netted me that conversion, which is a shame because that is very important.
Sidenote: how does go2mobi's tracking work if I already have a Prosper202 tracker? Do I run Go2Mobi's tokens>my affiliate network>get the offer URL with Go2Mobi's tokens>Prosper202>Get Prosper's URL>Back into Go2Mobi's campaign URL?
So since I could see which geo got me the conversion on my affiliate network, I ran the same offer again today in that geo only, as well in a new exchange, Tapsense, however, after 4 hours, $12 was spent in Smaato, but $0.00 was spent in Tapsense, even though the dayparting was active and the campaign itself was active.
Since I have one conversion in that offer, but not any real usable data, should I just find new offers and banners and (now incorporate landers?) and try to get more data this time (by tracking properly)?
Thank you!
Do not move further without proper tracking setup. You need to be able where the conversions are coming from. You need to be able to see what placements are giving you traffic that clicks through the LP and what placements suck in this extent. You should always setup some kind of bot test. Another problem is, smaato is currently too strict with approvals, you might want to test other exchanges. Or try the generic "play/download" banners, they will at least give you cheap clicks. But first of all, sort out the tracking.
I never used prosper, so can't really help you with that.
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