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Facebook Budget / Spying - You'll never Believe The KIND of Responses I GOT! (7)

09-10-2016 01:54 PM #1 dreinz (Member)
Facebook Budget / Spying - You'll never Believe The KIND of Responses I GOT!

Hey all! Ya, I tried to clickbait you, rofl.

How do you go about spying on Facebook for competitors ads / landers?

What kind of daily budget spend should I start with on Facebook?

Thanks!

09-11-2016 10:22 PM #2 sleenirvana (Member)

Ctr is high, but sorry no conversions lol

09-12-2016 05:51 AM #3 zeno (Administrator)

1. Try a spy tool and be wowed at how little they cover (it is hard to spy on Facebook for obvious reasons - you can't be in every ads targeting scope and so can only spy on a very few broader fields). Otherwise, make a new account in your desired spec e.g. male, 25, US-based, likes X, Y and Z. Do the latter with caution as if you make a fake personal account, you are very likely to flag yourself if not extremely careful.

2. You are going to realistically need at least $20/day to do anything meaningful. Most people spend more especially if in T1 countries. What's more important is how you spend, not how much. Spending $10/day in Guatemala on a high performing whitehat offer is probably going to get you more data and learnings than spending $20/day on a blackhat PIN submit in the US that pays out $16 USD but will get you banned.

09-12-2016 07:43 PM #4 dreinz (Member)

@sleenirvana - LOL

@zeno
Thanks for the input! A facebook marketer I might work with was saying $100/minimum. Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from blackhat for now. Esp on FB.

09-12-2016 07:49 PM #5 david2772 (Member)

Bobliu has a prop spy tool for high performing affiliates. Food for thought in the future.

09-13-2016 05:52 AM #6 osirism (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
2. You are going to realistically need at least $20/day to do anything meaningful. Most people spend more especially if in T1 countries. What's more important is how you spend, not how much. Spending $10/day in Guatemala on a high performing whitehat offer is probably going to get you more data and learnings than spending $20/day on a blackhat PIN submit in the US that pays out $16 USD but will get you banned.
Question from a newbie:

I'm reading a lot on the dangers of PIN submit on Facebook but, are all PIN submit offers dangerous? are all offers considered blackhat?

I'm really interested on trying low paying offers to get started, and it seems that a lot are PIN submit.

09-16-2016 01:33 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

PIN submits in general cause negative experiences for users, and those reactions are what are going to get your ads killed in the long term (user complaints).

In general I would say this offer type and the way it monetises users is going to be danger all around.

I'm sure there are some PIN submits that, if advertised right, would actually do OK, I just wouldn't want my accounts life dependent on that.

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