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Dear Network Owners Why Do You Use Cake? (29)


10-08-2011 06:43 PM #1 polarbacon (Moderator)
Dear Network Owners Why Do You Use Cake?

umm ya.....I was just wondering why everyone is switching to cake? I persoanlly think the interface as absolute shit...

like....

it hangs up all the time....all that ajax shit they have going on is so clunky....

half the time I hit refresh it never works......

the little offer pops just get in the way.....

and I don't really see it tracking better or redirects are faster...


so what gives? I figure there has to be something I am missing....cuz to me its awful...


10-08-2011 06:46 PM #2 index (Member)

Im not a network owner but I think Cake beats the shit out of Hitpath and LinkTrust. I classify them like this:

Neverblue --> HasOffers --> Cake --> Linktrust/Hitpath tie --> DirectTrack --> Copeac (LOL)


10-08-2011 07:24 PM #3 PhilipShapiro (Member)

I will say, it's annoying as hell to access from my cell phone lol.

We switched to Cake because HasOffers went to shit IMO. I was there before they were providing free trials, and from that point on, not only did HO's integrity diminish (at least from my perspective), but support became overloaded, the servers became slower, etc. Tracking and ease of Hasoffers was perfectly fine, but I left because the Cake system is more complex, but allows things to be done more simply. Adding offers, creatives, sending pubs their links/creatives/suppression all in the click of one button, etc. Not to mention, the people behind Cake are what sells them more than anything. Incredible, friendly support. Literally 24/7. We've had issues at 3AM that we call and it goes to somebody's cell who actually picks up and takes care of whatever issue had risen.

In terms of order of tracking system by accuracy/efficiency, I'd say it goes Cake --> HasOffers --> LinkTrust --> HitPath --> Nothing at all --> DirectTrack


10-08-2011 07:28 PM #4 liane (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by PhilipShapiro View Post
I will say, it's annoying as hell to access from my cell phone lol.
Yeah...that. Maybe Cake should invest in an iPhone app...or a mobile-friendly site.


10-08-2011 07:33 PM #5 PhilipShapiro (Member)

Couldn't agree more. Will drop that suggestion .


10-08-2011 07:41 PM #6 index (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by PhilipShapiro View Post
We switched to Cake because HasOffers went to shit IMO. I was there before they were providing free trials, and from that point on, not only did HO's integrity diminish (at least from my perspective), but support became overloaded, the servers became slower, etc.
Interesting. I always liked the HasOffers interface. I think it's intuitive and most importantly not clunky! I wish Cake would hold off a bit on all the AJAX stuff too because it just makes the system slower, so I hear you on that Polarbacon. I like fast and responsive interfaces.

Still, Neverblue's interface is so far ahead of everybody it's not even funny.


10-08-2011 07:42 PM #7 index (Member)

oh yea, this thread is for network owners and I'm speaking as an affiliate so my bad lol


10-08-2011 07:51 PM #8 PhilipShapiro (Member)

Your opinion is just as important as a network owners -- I totally agree, hasoffers was very simple and "not clunky". Cake can drive me nuts sometimes, but it's advantages outweigh the cons to me.


10-08-2011 08:15 PM #9 heavyt (Senior Member)

what if you have your own offers instead of a network? I haven't had much problems with has at all, its on amazon as well so.


10-08-2011 08:31 PM #10 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

I evaluate HasOffers, Cake and HitPath and have to say Cake was up there, but lacked a few core functions I wanted.

For example I HEART the "Ad Manager" in HO

HO support is terrible though, and reports are ugly as hell always have to download excel files and do some magic there.

I'm waiting on Cake to build out some mobile reporting and then will probably end up switching over.


10-08-2011 09:55 PM #11 Hannah (Member)

My personal favourite (read: least favourite) thing about cake:

If you live overseas, especially in Australia which is 18 hours ahead of probably PST but one of the main time zones in North America, the main dashboard uses the date and time according to your computer to decide what "day" it is. So every time I log in before 6pm, I have to change the date to "yesterday" to see my actual stats. Sure, it doesn't sound like much, but it's really fucking annoying when literally every single other affiliate platform ever manages to do it properly.

Also, I literally couldn't access anything during the 3 days when I had 256kps internet because I hit my cap. Everything would just hang forever.

It's better than a lot of interfaces, but overall I'm not a big fan of Cake.


10-09-2011 01:09 AM #12 polarbacon (Moderator)

all I know is I love me some HO....I think the stats interface rocks.....seems like I can always drill down with it....esp if you use the ad manger....

I do love the ad manager....

and as far as redirect times with HO they made some major improvements to there server base.....I see redirects less than .1 seconds....some as low as .05 seconds...


10-09-2011 02:55 AM #13 maynzie (Moderator)

@hannah im with ya on that one haha, 3pm the day ticks over


10-09-2011 07:39 AM #14 Ryan Eagle ()

We're about ready to release a new technology at EWA and I'm just wondering how many people are going to drop off, and how many people are going to pickup. It's love / hate with network technologies - crazy.


10-09-2011 01:59 PM #15 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

I think the reason some network owners like Cake is that it has some lead ping tree stuff built into it.

But honestly, just like affiliates, network owners are vulnerable to the flavor of the week syndrome. I think part of it is features and part of it is jumping on the bandwagon.


10-09-2011 07:59 PM #16 pbakos92 (Member)

Cake's just the latest thing, so network owners are going to it to show that their networks keep up with the latest "technology". HasOffers get's the job done 1000%, there's absolutely no reason to switch.


10-11-2011 06:20 PM #17 theguvna ()

^^^ agreed with Smax and pbak... I think a lot of people just jumped on Cake because it was new and supposed to be slick. I am not a fan.

What's the one that A4D uses and that C2M used to use? I think Mill uses it as well. That one and Neverblues are good enough.

lol I just like to see and navigate stuff on my iPhone really.


10-12-2011 12:49 AM #18 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

I'm having a Cake rep call me every week, its sure tempting to switch over just for their support. Has Offers support is terrible and simple feature requests like "enable custom weight" in their Ad Manager take months to complete THEN they don't work so you have to go and start over.

Hopefully I'll get some better demos at ad tech and see if anything other than HO is worth the money.


10-12-2011 04:40 AM #19 sm1810 (Member)

I had a look at Cake this morning.. Talked to Jodi looks pretty impressive. Haven't had a chance to fwd the APIs to my development team but for sure it's very user friendly. It's a lot more expensive than HasOffers for sure, they charge $1,500/month plus a usage fee per click..

I was just sent a sandbox account so will play a little bit more.. I did mention the issue w/the timezones and they said it's something they are aware of and will be fixing on future release..


10-12-2011 02:02 PM #20 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Thats the thing I cant stand when they say future release and don't have a definite ETA


10-12-2011 07:02 PM #21 sm1810 (Member)

that's biggest issue w/all SaaS :/


10-12-2011 07:03 PM #22 sm1810 (Member)

I'm using BigCommerce on a few project and I have a bunch of issues will always be addressed in next release


12-11-2013 09:16 PM #23 dario (Member)

just got an email from neverblue
they're going to get rid of their great tracking platform and started migrating to Cake


12-13-2013 03:38 PM #24 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by dario View Post
just got an email from neverblue
they're going to get rid of their great tracking platform and started migrating to Cake
That's pretty unexpected, curious to see the reasons behind it.


12-17-2013 10:01 AM #25 dario (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
That's pretty unexpected, curious to see the reasons behind it.
I didn't know about this feature

"CAKE also offers the choice to utilize a review and scrub queue, manually edit, distribute, and validate leads that have been flagged by editable filters."

I hope scrubbing (aff network' side, in addition to already existing advertiser' side) is not the main reason


12-17-2013 10:18 AM #26 ohaiguyz (Member)

Highly possible. Scrubbing leads in cake is a piece of cake.

Btw they did start with the migration. just received my new login info.


12-17-2013 05:30 PM #27 jason a (Senior Member)

:-(
....

Quote Originally Posted by ohaiguyz View Post
Highly possible. Scrubbing leads in cake is a piece of cake.

Btw they did start with the migration. just received my new login info.


12-17-2013 05:37 PM #28 Mr Green (Administrator)

Lol I'm sure if neverblue wanted to scrub with their previous platform they could of. I assume they made the switch just because Cake is well supported and scalable.


12-17-2013 06:04 PM #29 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Neverblue was using custom tracking, which means they had access to all the code.

If they wanted to scrub or do anything shady the previous platform was the best way to do it.

I think they are using cake for how easy it is to use and how well it integrates with other networks using cake.


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