Making Sweet, Sweet Love To AV offers on Pop Traffic *Diaries Of A Baby Affiliate* (10)
Making Sweet, Sweet Love To AV offers on Pop Traffic *Diaries Of A Baby Affiliate*
Hello STM fam,
I'm back with another follow along. It's past midnight and I gotta be up at 6am for work but FoooK it (pardon my french)! One can either sit around and sulk while being unhappy about their current life conditions or one can develop the skills to engineer a life that others can only dream of. I choose the latter.
*Rolls up sleeves and walks into the ring with Popads*
**Fight Bell Sounds**
Tale Of The Tape:
3 Campaigns:
Campaign 1:
Number of Landers: 6
Number of Offers: 3 (for now)
Targeting: Android
Connection Type: Wifi+Carrier
Bidding: Just above the average bid according to pop ads
Offer Payout: .40-.90cents
Campaign 2:
Number of Landers: 6
Number of Offers: 3 (for now)
Targeting: Android
Connection Type: Wifi+Carrier
Bidding: Just above the average bid according to pop ads
Offer Payout: .20cents-.80cents
Campaign 3:
I haven't completed campaign yet due to having issues with the html on some of the landers but I will get that fixed after work.
Now I know some of you are wondering why I haven't started by testing staggered bids from the gate? I figured no need to run that test until I can narrow the campaigns down to my top 3 landers. Keep in mind, there's no right or wrong answer to starting off a campaign and everyone has their own mojo. But I feel starting at a high bid will identify my top landers early and then I can test those winners at staggered bids. Anywho I look forward to updating you guys with data after work. Time to hit the hay. Wish me luck y'all.
Let's see how things go shall we?
Keep on grooving Mi Gentes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE
Alright STM family it's been two days and here are the results.
Campaign 1:
Spend: $12.94
Revenue: $8.85
ROI: - 31%
Here are the images for the voluume stats. Please ignore the spend in
Below are the stats of the 3 offers. As you can see, there is a clear winner and now it's just matter of rotating new offers against my current winner.
Next up is the stats for my landers:
At this point I'm going to kill off the clear losers and keep landers 3,1,5 and 2.
Thus far there has been 0 optimization and I think what I need to do is spend a little bit more before I choose my top 2 landers. This campaign is targeting Android on KE, both wifi/carrier in the same camp. Although it is showing promise i'm having an issue with volume (Barely could spend $10 a day). Now keep in mind i'm bidding high. Popads was showing an average bid of .0065 so I went to .0069. Hmmm, I don't see this campaign pulling in much daily revenue on popads and I need to find another source to test on that has way more KE traffic. Looking at my highest volume website zone for this camp and it's only 600 visits (impressions) but the CTR is 70% wooop. Do any of you have any recommendations for more volume on KE traffic... Excoclick, Propeller?
As far as campaign 2 goes I don't think I want to continue testing this geo. The spend is set to $5 a day and it can't even spend $3. The geo i'm targeting for this campaign is Ghana and I can't seem to find high volume traffic sources. If you know of any good traffic sources I would be extremely thankful.
As far as campaign 3 I haven't launched anything yet; I'm far too tired from these 12hr shifts BUT eventually i'll launch soon enough. I want to build as much capital as possible before I attack affiliate marketing full time. Show some love and let me know how i'm doing. Cheers mi gentes!
Hey Folks,
So I might pause this campaign in KE due to lack of volume as well. A fellow affiliate told me it would be extremely hard to get to $100 a day profit in KE so I've decided to move on to greener pastures. I'll be launching something else soon enough.
Cheers!
Originally Posted by inigomontoya
For Kenya - at least give propeller a try before throwing in the towel! Also give Zeropark a try.
As for the Kenya camp on popads: Have you drilled down to "mobile carrier" to see whether wifi or carrier traffic is in profit? The two types of traffic have completely different costs and traffic volumes, so you should separate the two and bid different amounts.
Also - bidding above-average to start instead of testing staggered bids is good - like you said, depends on what your strategy is. But have you tested staggered bids now that you know one of the offer is a winner? I would HIGHLY suggest bidding MAX to see how the camp will fare, and how much traffic you'll get. REMEMBER TO SET A LOW CAMPAIGN BUDGET though just in case!
Everything I've said about KE applies to GH as well - do give that geo a try on propeller and zeropark at least! As for it being "extremely hard to get to $100 a day profit in KE" - I I don't know about that. It would depend on whether your camp is profitable for a large traffic segment or not, and how many traffic sources you're scaling to.
Just to give you an example: I had a camp on zeropark where I was targeting a geo that had 1.3 million population total, and only targeting a SINGLE CARRIER - and it was making $40/day in profits for many weeks (until I accidentally tweaked something and it somehow broke the streak). KE has a population of 44+ million and GH 25+ million. So....
Amy
I love you Amy . I'll swap the camps over and see how they fair. I recall you saying in a past post something regarding testing a certain type of offer on carrier traffic and not the current types of offers i'm running. Feel free to refresh my memory when you get a chance 
. I'll keep you posted, cheers!
Originally Posted by inigomontoya
. I'll swap the camps over and see how they fair. I recall you saying in a past post something regarding testing a certain type of offer on carrier traffic and not the current types of offers i'm running. Feel free to refresh my memory when you get a chance . I'll keep you posted, cheers!http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...esting!-Part-1
1-click offers can convert very well - they only accept carrier traffic. Basically all you need to get from the visitor is a single click/tap of the subscription button, in order for the conversion to be complete.
Carrier traffic is more expensive than wifi though (in some cases CONSIDERABLY more expensive). So if you're wanting to target carrier traffic, it would be wise to run offers that are designed to convert well for carrier traffic - such as 1-click offers.
And then there are offers that have 2 separate conversion flows - a 1-click flow for carrier traffic and an MT/MO/etc. flow for wifi traffic.
Only drawback with carrier traffic is the lack of volume compared to wifi. You'll have to run on many sources at the same time to build up volume.
Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
For Kenya - at least give propeller a try before throwing in the towel! Also give Zeropark a try.
As for the Kenya camp on popads: Have you drilled down to "mobile carrier" to see whether wifi or carrier traffic is in profit? The two types of traffic have completely different costs and traffic volumes, so you should separate the two and bid different amounts.
Also - bidding above-average to start instead of testing staggered bids is good - like you said, depends on what your strategy is. But have you tested staggered bids now that you know one of the offer is a winner? I would HIGHLY suggest bidding MAX to see how the camp will fare, and how much traffic you'll get. REMEMBER TO SET A LOW CAMPAIGN BUDGET though just in case!
Everything I've said about KE applies to GH as well - do give that geo a try on propeller and zeropark at least! As for it being "extremely hard to get to $100 a day profit in KE" - I I don't know about that. It would depend on whether your camp is profitable for a large traffic segment or not, and how many traffic sources you're scaling to.
Just to give you an example: I had a camp on zeropark where I was targeting a geo that had 1.3 million population total, and only targeting a SINGLE CARRIER - and it was making $40/day in profits for many weeks (until I accidentally tweaked something and it somehow broke the streak). KE has a population of 44+ million and GH 25+ million. So....
Amy
Originally Posted by ads4allmedia
Every traffic source has its quirks - and sometimes when you change a campaign setting it would break things. My conversion rate took a massive dive - I think I was originally just targeting mainstream traffic, and then I tried to add adult to the targeting by checking the little box for adult traffic. Either that or I was playing with frequency settings - I don't remember.
Anyways - I tried to undo the change but the conversions didn't come back. Rather than investigating further I just let it go - I had multiple other campaigns I was scaling on and didn't want to tie up my time with what I felt was a lost cause.
This is why I like to set up additional camps when I want to change my targeting. There's always a risk of breaking something that's working when you change camp settings. Stuff like blacklisting placements is usually fine, but stuff like targeting OS, categories, carriers and changing frequencies - I would usually set up new camps to test. If the new settings turn out to be more profitable I could just pause the original camp. If they aren't I could always resort to running the original camp.
Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
Every traffic source has its quirks - and sometimes when you change a campaign setting it would break things. My conversion rate took a massive dive - I think I was originally just targeting mainstream traffic, and then I tried to add adult to the targeting by checking the little box for adult traffic. Either that or I was playing with frequency settings - I don't remember.
Anyways - I tried to undo the change but the conversions didn't come back. Rather than investigating further I just let it go - I had multiple other campaigns I was scaling on and didn't want to tie up my time with what I felt was a lost cause.
This is why I like to set up additional camps when I want to change my targeting. There's always a risk of breaking something that's working when you change camp settings. Stuff like blacklisting placements is usually fine, but stuff like targeting OS, categories, carriers and changing frequencies - I would usually set up new camps to test. If the new settings turn out to be more profitable I could just pause the original camp. If they aren't I could always resort to running the original camp.
Amy
I mean, were you receiving traffic from the same targets after the fact? Just sounds very bizarre.
Originally Posted by ads4allmedia
As for pausing and starting camps - I HAVE seen large changes in performance with that as well. I could never be sure what caused that to happen though. Either I was put at the end of some bidding priority, or new competition had entered/left during the time the camp was paused so that the bidding landscape got changed completely. Like I said, I try not to tamper with something that ain't broke.
Amy
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