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07-13-2016 05:26 PM
#1
kash580 (Member)
Dating offer Testing
Hi STM members
Turning to dating Vertical.
Traffic source = Trafficjunky
Offer = SOI
Payout= $8.27
Country = Switzerland
Targeting all spots on start to figure out good & bad spots.
Starting this offer through 5 different LP by dividing 20% traffic to all LP 
Will update it tomorrow after getting some traffic LOL.
Please hit me if i do some mistake haha 
07-13-2016 11:20 PM
#2
revolution (Member)
That' s cool .. we're noticing that CH is doing really well for us... keep us posted on your results.. Interested to hear how things play out of you
07-14-2016 11:56 AM
#3
kash580 (Member)
Finally get some traffic but not too much to figure out result LOL
Source: Trafficjunky
GEO: CH
Cost: $11.94
Rev: $8.27
Profit: -$3.67
Hoping to get more traffic to get conclusion 
07-14-2016 01:42 PM
#4
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)
Switzerland is a pretty small GEO with expensive traffic, but the offer payouts are usually high too. I would recommend to target older people (at least use older women for banners), there are offers that pay very high rates for 30+ members. And these guys also convert good 
TJ is a good choice, testing more LPs is a good idea too... keep the data coming in and post when you have more conversions 
07-14-2016 02:32 PM
#5
Vrume (Senior Member)
Yeah CH is a very small country and typically a hard one to scale without spending considerable $$$. Many guys i know work the DE/AT/CH angle instead of just CH.
07-14-2016 06:24 PM
#6
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
Adworld
Yeah CH is a very small country and typically a hard one to scale without spending considerable $$$. Many guys i know work the DE/AT/CH angle instead of just CH.
Yup, targeting DACH is a common thing to do, german language works fine in all of them. CH and AT are small, but its easier to keep good quality in them, DE has massive volume but quality problems are way more common here.
07-14-2016 07:24 PM
#7
kash580 (Member)

Originally Posted by
Adworld
Yeah CH is a very small country and typically a hard one to scale without spending considerable $$$. Many guys i know work the DE/AT/CH angle instead of just CH.
Agree & planning to run on other GEO's too , Thanks for advise
Here's update
Source: Trafficjunky
GEO: CH
Cost: $16.52
Rev: $16.54
Profit: $0.02
Still not getting much traffic now running same offer on other GEOS. BTW if i talk about LP here we go
LP1#
Clicks=19
CR=1
LP2#
Clicks=19
CR=0
LP3#
Clicks=19
CR=0
LP4#
Clicks=20
CR=1
LP5#
Clicks=18
CR=0
Did not get too much traffic so i think it's better to wait more to figure out what's best & wrost
Thank you
07-14-2016 09:12 PM
#8
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)
Yup, so far you don't have enough data to really do anything. But the fact that you actually got some conversions and didn't loose anything, makes me believe you started with a decent funnel and should be able to optimize this into profit
Good job.
07-14-2016 09:26 PM
#9
digitalraves (Member)
I know TJ is a good source, but i believe if volume of traffic is the problem, why not expand to different sources and at such, you can have more sources to get traffic from , steady source to give the right data for any decision making........
07-14-2016 09:49 PM
#10
kash580 (Member)

Originally Posted by
matuloo
makes me believe you started with a decent funnel and should be able to optimize this into profit

Good job.
Yeah thinking same way

Lets see after couple of days
07-14-2016 09:51 PM
#11
kash580 (Member)

Originally Posted by
digitalraves
I know TJ is a good source, but i believe if volume of traffic is the problem, why not expand to different sources and at such, you can have more sources to get traffic from , steady source to give the right data for any decision making........
Appreciate your suggestion , Have Juicyads too but their pannel S****
Now giving it try through 50onred

I know 50onred will gimme traffic Lets see
07-15-2016 07:08 AM
#12
offersdirect (Member)
I'd really recommend you skip CH untill you have DE or AT sorted out and get winner campaigns there.
CH has some really "old" offers running, which are not in any affiliate network and the merchants buy traffic on their own.
These merchants have outstanding relations with the billing partners (namely telecom operators) and they are able to do a lot of nasty shit that is not allowed on standard contracts.
Its impossible to compete with a compliant offer, when your competition runs and offer that has no confirmation option or bills them 2x higher than declared rate.
Bottom line:
Be conservative when testing on CH, rather test on DE/AT and try scaling on CH.
07-15-2016 11:46 AM
#13
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
offersdirect
I'd really recommend you skip CH untill you have DE or AT sorted out and get winner campaigns there.
CH has some really "old" offers running, which are not in any affiliate network and the merchants buy traffic on their own.
These merchants have outstanding relations with the billing partners (namely telecom operators) and they are able to do a lot of nasty shit that is not allowed on standard contracts.
Its impossible to compete with a compliant offer, when your competition runs and offer that has no confirmation option or bills them 2x higher than declared rate.
Bottom line:
Be conservative when testing on CH, rather test on DE/AT and try scaling on CH.
The OP is running dating campaigns, from what you said the competitor is using carrier billing so they will be targeting 3G traffic mostly - so they shouldn't directly compete and on top of that, nobody can ever buy ALL the traffic there is in one GEO. For dating, wifi is good enough, so I don't think it's a bad idea to start dating in CH.
07-15-2016 11:51 AM
#14
thuglife (Member)
Don't test too many landers if you're spending $10/day, your data won't be significant.
Just pick one BEST lander + one BEST offer.
Spying would help you with this.
07-15-2016 12:32 PM
#15
offersdirect (Member)

Originally Posted by
matuloo
The OP is running dating campaigns, from what you said the competitor is using carrier billing so they will be targeting 3G traffic mostly - so they shouldn't directly compete and on top of that, nobody can ever buy ALL the traffic there is in one GEO. For dating, wifi is good enough, so I don't think it's a bad idea to start dating in CH.
You are correct and I stand corrected.
I assumed the OP was talking about mobile, and based my answer on that , given the information I have on the CH mobile market.
However you assumed that I meant only carrier billing. In CH there are some really lucrative MO flows running, which among other things also optin users thru normal rate non-premium numbers and then later on upsell them on premium sms routes. So its not limited to DCB or carrier traffic

The competition I was talking about is not limited to 3G traffic.
I've never ran any traffic myself in CH as an affiliate, the only test we did is spent around 1k$ trying to get an offer optimised on the billing end for our client before turning it over to him. The results were disastrous and the offer was not handed over. Upon detailed investigation of the CH mobile billing market we got information from a really high ranking source (high management from a certain carrier) about certain flow specifics which have a really high compliance risk, eg.. the company running themis getting penalties from regulator nonstop.
You have undoubtedly more experience running CH as an affiliate so I appreciate your comment and I stand corrected.
07-15-2016 01:58 PM
#16
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
offersdirect
You are correct and I stand corrected.
I assumed the OP was talking about mobile, and based my answer on that , given the information I have on the CH mobile market.
However you assumed that I meant only carrier billing. In CH there are some really lucrative MO flows running, which among other things also optin users thru normal rate non-premium numbers and then later on upsell them on premium sms routes. So its not limited to DCB or carrier traffic

The competition I was talking about is not limited to 3G traffic.
I've never ran any traffic myself in CH as an affiliate, the only test we did is spent around 1k$ trying to get an offer optimised on the billing end for our client before turning it over to him. The results were disastrous and the offer was not handed over. Upon detailed investigation of the CH mobile billing market we got information from a really high ranking source (high management from a certain carrier) about certain flow specifics which have a really high compliance risk, eg.. the company running themis getting penalties from regulator nonstop.
You have undoubtedly more experience running CH as an affiliate so I appreciate your comment and I stand corrected.
I should have actually expressed myself more clear too, I run dating mostly on desktop traffic, so there isn't much competition from carrier billing or MO offers at all

And that's what I'd recommend to the OP too, focus on desktop traffic for the start.
07-15-2016 02:48 PM
#17
kash580 (Member)

Originally Posted by
matuloo
I should have actually expressed myself more clear too, I run dating mostly on desktop traffic, so there isn't much competition from carrier billing or MO offers at all

And that's what I'd recommend to the OP too, focus on desktop traffic for the start.
I want to clear everyone , I am running Desktop traffic for this offer not Mobo traffic ,
THUGLIFE i appreciate your suggestion , I am investing 30$/day that's why using different Lander , as after testing i'll optimize winner LP
07-15-2016 02:52 PM
#18
kash580 (Member)

Originally Posted by
offersdirect
Be conservative when testing on CH, rather test on DE/AT and try scaling on CH.
Thanks for suggestion , I am not getting much traffic on CH now turning to promote same offer on DE/AT
Lets see

will update soon
07-16-2016 08:38 AM
#19
affpayinggao (Veteran Member)
Subscribed, sounds interesting. Please keep the updates coming!
07-17-2016 05:15 PM
#20
kash580 (Member)
Here's Update 
So I figure out some spots not working like pornhub so i paused it , Now let's see still not getting much traffic
, Starting out same offer on other GEO (DK) waiting for approval.
Source: Trafficjunky
GEO: CH
Cost: $49.22
Rev: $24.89
Profit: -$24.33
THank you
07-19-2016 07:43 PM
#21
kash580 (Member)
Sorry i was away ufff
Anyway here's update
CH offer killing money without any CR so i planned to turn it off
Right now DK is looking good but again not much traffic to optimize
Here's stat's
Source: Trafficjunky
GEO: DK
Cost: $6.79
Rev: $4.18
Profit: -$2.61
LP stat's here
LP1#
Click = 9
CR = 1
LP2#
Click = 19
CR = 0
LP3#
Click = 23
CR = 0
LP4#
Click = 25
CR = 0
Right now almost most of target is on low Bid now pushing some bids onward
Lets see 
Thank you
07-19-2016 08:38 PM
#22
casual_dating_offers (Member)
What an interesting thread! Thanks for the info
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