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[Mr.Braun] Goal: $10 000 per day until 20 years old. (43)


07-13-2016 12:08 AM #1 mrbraun (Moderator)
[Mr.Braun] Goal: $10 000 per day until 20 years old.

Hello, guys!
My old follow-along is no longer relevant and I made a new one.
So my goal is $10k per day until 2017.
Who am I?
My name is Dima. I am 19 yo. I have been working for 5 years in AM, but in Mobile only 1 year. I made my 1st million when I was 16 And after it I understood that AM is my life...
My story: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-success-story
So now I work with:
- Pops
- Banners
- Native
Verticals - AV Pins, Sweeps, Dating, Installs, Nutra.

In this follow along I will write all my tests (only new) and all my thought about it.
P.S. My Skype is mrbraun31 and fb is https://www.facebook.com/mrbraun31 (Feel free to write me and ask some questions. I will give you some tips when I have a free time)
Let's go!

How I test my campaigns: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post286789
How I do my analytics: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post287679


07-13-2016 12:20 AM #2 mrbraun (Moderator)

#12.07.2016 Report

Today I had a very bad internet and I could not in any way to get started. But in the evening, I pulled myself together and started a new campaigns.
Source: Propellerads.
Vertical: Anti-Virus Pins.
GEOs: ID, FR, IT, UK, MX, ES, DE, RO, MY, AR, CO, AU, AE, PE, NG, NL, PH, CL, SG. BE, GR, EC, CZ, NO, LT, KW, CH, DO, JO, SE.
Target: Smartphones & Tablets, Android, iOS, BlackBerry, Win.Phone.
Affiliate Networks: ClickDealer & Adsimilis.
Lander: Scarry with Google.
Total: 30 campaigns ($15 limit for each campaign)

Source: Juicyads:
Vertical: Dating:
GEO: US.
Affiliate Network: ClickDealer
Target: Smartphones & Tablets, OS: All mobile.
Total: 1 campaign ($100 budget for campaign)

Why I chose this GEOs? Don't ask, I don't know. I want to run as much as possible GEOs and try a lot of offers (Yes, I set all the offers in split which I can find. I have 1-20 offers in 1 campaign. The popular GEO = A lot of offers.). So now campaigns are on moderation, I'm going to sleep. I will do analytics tomorrow.


07-13-2016 01:14 AM #3 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Nicely done! It's always exciting to see someone mass-test offers. And yeah - that google antivirus lander will do some damage for sure. It's the best of all the popular ones out there. But to use that lander, one would need to either run offers that allow aggressive promotion, or cloak which will come with its share of risks. Looking forward to seeing your results!



Amy


07-13-2016 02:52 AM #4 expadz ()

Nice!


07-14-2016 03:33 AM #5 inigomontoya (Member)

I'm deff going to be following this!


07-14-2016 08:15 AM #6 cbrughmans (Member)

Looking forward to the first updates on your results. If you made your first million by age 16, expectations are very high to see BIG numbers!


07-14-2016 11:01 AM #7 mrbraun (Moderator)

#13.07.2016 Report

Сampaign #1:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $15
Rev: $0
Profit: -$15
it is a big EU GEO, a lot of offers there. So I will add $50 to the campaign's budget.

Сampaign #2:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $15
Rev: $0
Profit: -$15
Similarly with Camp #1

Сampaign #3:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $10
Rev: $0
Profit: -$10
Similarly with #1 and #2

Сampaign #4:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: XXX
Cost: $249
Rev: $358
Profit: $109

The campaign started with green ROI. It was 3 offers it split. Further I added only one offer because his ROI was the best and continued to work with 1 offer.
Offer 1: 12 leads
Offer 2: 2 leads
Offer 3: 0 leads
Turned off tablets http://prntscr.com/bsr60a
3 sites in BL. So will work with pubs.

Сampaign #5:
Source: Popads
GEO: XXX
Cost: $244
Rev: $436
Profit: $192
As you might guess I scaled camp #4 to popads. Will work with pubs because target is good.

Сampaign #6:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $41
Rev: $13.4
Profit: -$27.6
A lot of offers in the camp. But it have a potential. Will work with it.
https://monosnap.com/file/12uanNvh6k...qwxwD8mhDvs3qq

Сampaign #7:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $10
Rev: $4
Profit: -$6
It is a poor African country and only 1 offer. So will work with pubs.

Сampaign #8:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $7.5
Rev: $3.75
Profit: -$3.75
Similarly #7

Сampaign #9:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Latam
Cost: $10
Rev: $4.6
Profit: -$5.4
Set only 1 offer https://monosnap.com/file/K1a5M4yTRZ...dgVgOZOzXqsoD0
Turned off tablets https://monosnap.com/file/8gkpnY7r8e...GOdm5efpAjmpv5
Will work with it.

Сampaign #10:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $9
Rev: $4
Profit: -$5
I need to spend more money to choose the best offer https://monosnap.com/file/UmWzXH7iTj...c9IWmpOAAxN8bP

Сampaign #11:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Asia
Cost: $29
Rev: $5
Profit: -$24
Only 1 offer in the camp. Turned off tablets https://monosnap.com/file/kDr7ByluMB...Dxaj3zE0UOYkfh
Turned off the iOS https://monosnap.com/file/XHJdiB9hLP...PCOgfRcfW01qhf
So I work with it on.

For other campaigns I don't give the report. There are a little spent, or until there is nothing to analyze. As you can see, only one campaign at once gave me the green ROI, and it means that you should always be ready to spend a lot of money for tests. I add to split all Offers which I found on this GEO + Vertical.


07-14-2016 01:37 PM #8 continental (Member)

I thought you were banned here (as it was on other forum), but i was wrong. Hope you won't give access to your account on this forum to all your learners (it was the cause of your ban on forum that you know). Good luck!


07-14-2016 01:56 PM #9 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by continental View Post
I thought you were banned here (as it was on other forum), but i was wrong. Hope you won't give access to your account on this forum to all your learners (it was the cause of your ban on forum that you know). Good luck!
Inadequate man. Administration of the forum can see that I do not break any rules. And no one do not give access to my account. And at the forum, which you say I did not give. If you are afraid of rivalry it's not my problems, so be honest


07-14-2016 02:22 PM #10 continental (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
Inadequate man. Administration of the forum can see that I do not break any rules. And no one do not give access to my account. And at the forum, which you say I did not give. If you are afraid of rivalry it's not my problems, so be honest
Don't be so nervous. I didn't want to outrage you and i don't care on your work. Just don't break rules at least of this forum and all will be ok.


07-15-2016 05:25 AM #11 inigomontoya (Member)

Enough of the back and forth banter guys, save that for Skype. I want to learn more about the two campaigns that hit GREEN!!!!

I thought you said you were only spending $15 a day on the propeller ads campaigns? Did you see green on the initial investment and up the daily budget immediately or was your $100+ spend after day two of seeing promise? I was told by an affiliate only to up your budget massively if positive ROI can hold consistent for 3days straight. Something tells me you're going by a different set of rules.

How many landers did you test per campaign? Are you using your own unique landers of just taking the one's you see on spy tools?

Great work


07-15-2016 07:48 AM #12 ebaskin (Member)

Oh haha I just wanted to ask you how you made 1 million with 16 as all I did at that age was smoking pot and playing world of warcraft haha but then I saw it's not $

You have good ROIs so getting that campaign to $1+/day is just a matter of scaling. I'm from russia too so I wish you good luck, don't drink too much vodka.


07-15-2016 11:23 AM #13 il3n1n (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ebaskin View Post
Oh haha I just wanted to ask you how you made 1 million with 16 as all I did at that age was smoking pot and playing world of warcraft haha but then I saw it's not $

You have good ROIs so getting that campaign to $1+/day is just a matter of scaling. I'm from russia too so I wish you good luck, don't drink too much vodka.
1kk RUB=15k$
1kk BYR = 50$


07-15-2016 11:35 AM #14 ebaskin (Member)

what is BY

1kk RUB was ~30k a few years back. ruble tanked in the past years


07-18-2016 12:19 PM #15 mrbraun (Moderator)

Hey guys! Sorry for the delay. I'm traveling now

#14.07-15.07 report

I turned off West EU because it is no profitable in AV for me. So will try it in Sweeps.

Сampaign #3:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $51
Rev: $36
Profit: $-15
It is only 2 leads in campaign. Will test.

Сampaign #4:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: XXX
Cost: $385
Rev: $694
Profit: $309
5 sites in BL. Will work with it.

Сampaign #5:
Source: Popads
GEO: XXX
Cost: $443
Rev: $968
Profit: $525
Similarly with #4.

Сampaign #6:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $78
Rev: $124.4
Profit: $46.4

Сampaign #7:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $22
Rev: $38
Profit: $16
Optimized the target.

Сampaign #8:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $17
Rev: $11
Profit: -$6
Working with BL

Сampaign #9:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Latam
Cost: $34
Rev: $13
Profit: -$21
Working with BL

Сampaign #10:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: Africa
Cost: $21
Rev: $23
Profit: +$2
Working with BL

Сampaign #12:
Source: Propellerads
GEO: EU
Cost: $10
Rev: $13
Profit: +$3
Working with BL

So I have 2.5 times more campaigns. For the rest, or spent little or insufficient data for analysis.


07-20-2016 04:56 AM #16 inigomontoya (Member)

What was your scaling method for campaign 4 and 5. Did you narrow it down to 1 one offer and 1 lander then up your daily spend?


07-20-2016 07:59 AM #17 affpayinggao (Veteran Member)

I'm following! keep it up!


07-20-2016 12:54 PM #18 springerjan (Member)

Good luck, following this one.


07-21-2016 06:42 AM #19 mrbraun (Moderator)

Hey guys! A new report will be soon!
I just search a good Affiliate network with Nutra offers and BizzOpp. Can you please recommend me some?
Thank you!


07-21-2016 02:01 PM #20 simon_89 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
Hey guys! A new report will be soon!
I just search a good Affiliate network with Nutra offers and BizzOpp. Can you please recommend me some?
Thank you!
For Nutra, go to jumbleberry and reach out to AJ Manuel. His skype is: ajmanuel7


07-21-2016 03:04 PM #21 glennb (Member)

Convert2Media - Ask for Aaron


08-07-2016 03:58 PM #22 mrbraun (Moderator)

Hey! I think you want to know what GEO gave me so good ROI?
So... It was MX. Offer on Adsimilis (23159) AVG 1 Antivirus - 1 click flow [MX] (Now offer is not active)
Targeting was:
OSs: All
Browsers: All
WiFi+Carrier.
Land: It was a very popular land from adplexity. You can find it in 3 minutes.
So I started to test MX from Propelleards, Set to the split all MX Antivirus-Pins from Adsimilis and ClickDealer, but only 1 offer gave me 400% ROI. So after a couple of hours I set only this offer and scaled my campaign to Popads. And in 3 days I got about $1100 (the cost on the screenshot is not right) http://prnt.sc/c2pt1h.

1. Always test a lot of offers, you'll never know exactly what offer will be the best
2. You can run 1 lander for all geos. Just translate it.
3. On start run campaign with big target.
4. I optimize pubs after offers, landings, target. If pub gives you -40% ROI, after optimization of lander and target this pub can give you +80% ROI.
5. If you have a very good green campaign you should run it in other sources (It was my mistake, I just relaxed )

P.S. I search good offers for: EG, LATAM, SA, IN, ID, TR, CN, PK, CO, EC, CL, DZ, AE, BD.


08-07-2016 06:01 PM #23 dandyman (AMC Alumnus)

Hi Mr Braun. Quick question (& congrats)...

With antivirus offers, do you ever see wi-fi traffic to outperform 3G traffic?

Thanks.


08-07-2016 11:15 PM #24 affpayinggao (Veteran Member)

Wow, very good ROI. Keep up the great work mrbraun


08-08-2016 09:57 AM #25 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dandyman View Post
Hi Mr Braun. Quick question (& congrats)...

With antivirus offers, do you ever see wi-fi traffic to outperform 3G traffic?

Thanks.
If we talk about quality - for me 3G gives the best quality, but if we have a pin offer we can send wifi+3G to this offer. Some offers have 1 click (for 3G) and pin (for wifi and other carriers).


08-08-2016 05:59 PM #26 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
1. Always test a lot of offers, you'll never know exactly what offer will be the best
2. You can run 1 lander for all geos. Just translate it.
3. On start run campaign with big target.
4. I optimize pubs after offers, landings, target. If pub gives you -40% ROI, after optimization of lander and target this pub can give you +80% ROI.
5. If you have a very good green campaign you should run it in other sources (It was my mistake, I just relaxed )

P.S. I search good offers for: EG, LATAM, SA, IN, ID, TR, CN, PK, CO, EC, CL, DZ, AE, BD.
Gold!!

This just about sums up all the major advice I keep giving on various follow-alongs. I'll be referring a lot of newbies to your post/thread in the future.

Regarding your point #5: Having a big list of traffic sources to scale to can be a BIG edge! And because you have some profitable camps to scale, now would be the perfect time to test more sources!

Pop camps don't tend to live very long, so being able to scale hard and fast is key. Every time your broad testing of offer finds a good offer, you want to be able to scale it to 10-20+ sources the same/next day to turn that xx/day into xxxx/day. Some advice on scaling can be found here:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post282630

Thanks for sharing valuable tips so generously - and those stats are looking really good!


Amy


08-09-2016 11:43 PM #27 randomman (Member)

what does 'pub' mean in this context?

also when you test an offer initially, is your budget dependent on the payout? you seem to be starting testing with $15 across the board?


08-10-2016 12:27 AM #28 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by randomman View Post
what does 'pub' mean in this context?
Pubs would be publishers - otherwise known as "placements". Publishers are what traffic sources call websites they buy traffic from.



Amy


08-10-2016 12:35 AM #29 randomman (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Pubs would be publishers - otherwise known as "placements". Publishers are what traffic sources call websites they buy traffic from.



Amy
Thanks Amy. I thought he meant targets as in placements but I guess targets means other stuff like OS/Devices/connection/etc. interesting approach he takes.


08-10-2016 09:50 AM #30 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by randomman View Post
Thanks Amy. I thought he meant targets as in placements but I guess targets means other stuff like OS/Devices/connection/etc. interesting approach he takes.
We'll have to wait for clarification from mrbraun, but when he said"target" he probably meant "targeting".

@mrbraun: How's scaling coming along? Well I trust?


Amy


04-22-2017 03:28 PM #31 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jmcrist View Post
Hi Dima,

Fantastic thread. Super inspirational and great tips.

I do have a few quick questions for you if you don't mind:

1) Did you find all the campaigns in the screenshot above using he same methods you've outlined in this thread? Namely, mass-testing offers (30 - 40 at once) to find winners and then optimize?

2) We're all these campaigns in the AV vertical?

3) Did you use a single lander for initial testing across all GEOs when testing the offers for each vertical?

Thanks!
Michael
Hey!

Thank you!

1) Yes, right. I always do what I write on the STM. I have no secrets.

2) It's 50% AV and 50% Sweeps

3) I use one lander, I just translate him.


04-22-2017 03:32 PM #32 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by thepinkcat View Post
Mr Braun I've got a quick question. You said in this post that "You need to create your own landers if you want to get a good profit".

But then in this post you said you do not create your own landers, you just edit stolen ones. But previously you said, and I quote, "stolen landers are shit"

Maybe this is a language barrier thing but I'm trying to wrap my head around this. It seems like you're ripping multiple landers & editing them just enough to call then "new". But you are NOT creating brand new landers from scratch. Is this correct? Because if so I wouldn't say this is "creating your own landers" I'd say it's tweaking existing ones. Semantics I know

I'm just trying to understand better because your process clearly works well.

BTW 20-30 camps per day is insane. Between waiting for offer approvals, waiting for landing page/creative approval, and waiting for TS approvals, I cannot imagine getting all of that done to the tune of 20 per day. Awesome work.
Hey!

Yes, for a good profit you have to create your own landers. But you don't need to create an absolutely new LP from zero. Just copy one LP from SPY and edit:
- Text
- Images
- Scripts

And it will look like a 100% new LP, but you just edit a stolen one.

If you copy landers from SPY and don't edit them - it's a shit, right. But you can use these LPs only for a fast test to make an opinion should you run a campaign or not.


04-22-2017 05:17 PM #33 thepinkcat (Senior Member)

When you test offers are you only running 1 lander to gauge if the offers convert?

You said that you find the best lander and translate that to many geos. But when you're mass-testing offers are you also testing many landers too? Or are you only using 1 lander to see which offers convert?

Right now I do 3-5 landers per offer but it's hard to tell if the offer is bad, or if the lander(s) are bad, or if both are bad!


04-22-2017 05:35 PM #34 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by thepinkcat View Post
When you test offers are you only running 1 lander to gauge if the offers convert?

You said that you find the best lander and translate that to many geos. But when you're mass-testing offers are you also testing many landers too? Or are you only using 1 lander to see which offers convert?

Right now I do 3-5 landers per offer but it's hard to tell if the offer is bad, or if the lander(s) are bad, or if both are bad!
If you have a tested lander which works good for you in other GEOs you can use him. But if not, I use 3-5 different LPs with different angels.

If you do 5 LPs and 5 offers the best way to do a drilldown report: Offers=>Landers and to find the best combination.


04-22-2017 07:18 PM #35 jmcrist (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
3) I use one lander, I just translate him.
Dima,

In some other threads it seemed like you said to test 3 to 5 landers to start, instead of just the 1. Obviously, for the initial GEO/Offer tests it would be great to only use 1 lander (to reduce the number of tests). But I've seen many threads (from others as well) that encourage testing 3 to 5 landers for each offer in each vertical.

Can you help me understand what I'm missing here?

Thanks!


04-22-2017 07:32 PM #36 Mr Payne (Member)

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04-23-2017 06:42 AM #37 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jmcrist View Post
Dima,

In some other threads it seemed like you said to test 3 to 5 landers to start, instead of just the 1. Obviously, for the initial GEO/Offer tests it would be great to only use 1 lander (to reduce the number of tests). But I've seen many threads (from others as well) that encourage testing 3 to 5 landers for each offer in each vertical.

Can you help me understand what I'm missing here?

Thanks!
For the initial test you have to run 1 your tested LP or 3-5 from spy.


04-26-2017 04:25 AM #38 poker007 (Member)

Hey mrbraun, amazing stuff thank you! A few questions for you if you don't mind:

1) I'm not sure what you mean by work with pubs and when you'll work with them?
2) Along those lines, what do you mean when referring to BL and working with it?
3) I see statistics metrics such as confidence, T. Clicks, etc. in your screenshots that I'm not seeing in Voluum. How do I get to that type of report view? Does this show up automatically when running split-test campaigns?

Thanks for sharing and all your help!


04-28-2017 09:44 PM #39 TeamAragon (Senior Member)

This is awesome and extremely detailed. Thank you - Chris


05-04-2017 01:53 AM #40 gdpdfe (Member)

Hi, mrbraun,
I found that pixelk can not know a lot of mobile brand and model, how do you solve this problem?

thank you.


05-25-2017 01:53 PM #41 apinandrobin (Member)

Fantastic post!

Great motivation for me, who trying to make pop traffic work.

I've few questions if you don't mind.

1. How is your workflow day-to-day to be able launching 20~30 campaign daily?

2. What do you think of pop traffic now? Do you still recommend pop traffic? Competition is fierce and bid is high, low bid will make me get low quality placement and high bid will make ROI even worst when testing offer lander combination (based on my newbie experience).

3. I need your advice... for someone who already know few things about optimization but still can't make pop traffic campaign profitable do you recommended stay on pop or change traffic source? I'm used run Adwords campaign for local business owner.

Thanks


06-08-2017 03:24 PM #42 pivotal (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
You'll see my new big tip soon Just preparing.
Congrats! Nice job! Curious when the "new big tip" will be coming?


08-13-2017 01:35 AM #43 falcon (AMC Alumnus)

mrbraun, awesome awesome thread, extremely helpful. thanks so much for adding value to the forum!

P.S. Sent you a skype request, would love to ask a question about the market in Russia.


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