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Mobile banner to YTZ or monetizers offers combo feasible? (6)

07-05-2016 10:56 AM #1 sushiparlour (Member)
Mobile banner to YTZ or monetizers offers combo feasible?

Hi all,

Given the fact that we don't know what the offer we run is (since they will cycle through multiple offers) then how would we design an appropriate banner for hit? Or do we use one of those fake play button banners and just optimize for clicks?


Regards,
SP

07-06-2016 11:33 AM #2 johner911 (Member)

Its feasible but.. be careful with monetizer, they suspend accounts weekly with unpaid funds if you have low traffic.

Just do the fake play button, high ctr banners, it should work ok.

I have 2 noobs in traning and they both have constant issues, so they switched to kimia/bitterstrawberry smartlinks.

07-07-2016 06:27 AM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)
Mobile banner to YTZ or monetizers offers combo feasible?

Quote Originally Posted by johner911 View Post
Its feasible but.. be careful with monetizer, they suspend accounts weekly with unpaid funds if you have low traffic.

Just do the fake play button, high ctr banners, it should work ok.

I have 2 noobs in traning and they both have constant issues, so they switched to kimia/bitterstrawberry smartlinks.
Hi John, actually that statement is incorrect.

Monetizer temporarily closes accounts that run no volume. Even if they are running minimal volume their accounts will be fine. This rule is in place to protect active Monetizer partners from other people just using Monetizer as a way to rip data, landers and offers. These are some of Monetizers USPs, we want to keep them that way as you can understand.

This is why we urge new users to sign up when they are actually ready to start buying traffic.

A partner with a closed account can easily contact us again once they are ready to buy traffic and we will happily reactive their accounts.

07-07-2016 07:03 AM #4 johner911 (Member)

@Mr Green

Thx for the explanation. But to put it in perspective.
There are not a lot of folks that do consistent nonstop traffic delivery to a single network. As monetizer's best role is as a sink for sub-prime traffic (nonbillable on primary offer), the traffic to it oscillates same as for the normal primary campaigns.
So its normal that traffic pauses for periods of time.

Specific example:

I have 1 guy learning affiliate solo, he is launching 1 campaign per day doing little ad spend around 10-20, he dumps all sub-target to monetizer. One day he might do 5 bucks on moneziter , then its silent for a week.. He gets suspensions weekly.
It is really demotivating for him to check each day if monetizer is working or if he is sending traffic to a dud.

Now I would understand this mentality of pausing and "traffic is required to keep running", if I didnt have another guy enrolled in wamc and being pushed to run monetizer. So obivousely monetizer is intended to also be used as a tool for newbie affilites. This combined with a clausule of no traffic = pause makes no sense.

07-07-2016 07:40 AM #5 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by johner911 View Post
@Mr Green

Thx for the explanation. But to put it in perspective.
There are not a lot of folks that do consistent nonstop traffic delivery to a single network. As monetizer's best role is as a sink for sub-prime traffic (nonbillable on primary offer), the traffic to it oscillates same as for the normal primary campaigns.
So its normal that traffic pauses for periods of time.

Specific example:

I have 1 guy learning affiliate solo, he is launching 1 campaign per day doing little ad spend around 10-20, he dumps all sub-target to monetizer. One day he might do 5 bucks on moneziter , then its silent for a week.. He gets suspensions weekly.
It is really demotivating for him to check each day if monetizer is working or if he is sending traffic to a dud.

Now I would understand this mentality of pausing and "traffic is required to keep running", if I didnt have another guy enrolled in wamc and being pushed to run monetizer. So obivousely monetizer is intended to also be used as a tool for newbie affilites. This combined with a clausule of no traffic = pause makes no sense.
A suspended account means that a partner did not earn 1 cent within a 7 day period.

Monetizer is not really intended for newbies it's for larger partners who have constant remnant traffic.

Afflow (the one which is being showcased on AMC) is for newbies. It is a platform to use for primary campaigns. Hence all the data, and private information we really want to keep for active partners. If your guy is spending $10/day even $1/week then he will be fine.

07-07-2016 08:25 AM #6 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sushiparlour View Post
Hi all,

Given the fact that we don't know what the offer we run is (since they will cycle through multiple offers) then how would we design an appropriate banner for hit? Or do we use one of those fake play button banners and just optimize for clicks?


Regards,
SP
Coming back to the original question of the OP:

Designing appropriate banners for networks like monetizer is normally a task aiming to generate as high as possible CTRs, which results in cheap clicks. Similar to scaling pop/redirect campaigns, when running display with high CTR creatives ( think download now type of creatives, basically anything generic that triggers a click for whatever reason) your intention is to bring down your EPC as much as possible, since CTR is king.

That being said, still you'll face cases in which banner A will perform differently to banner B so I'd still combine both metrics, CTR and CR.

Quote Originally Posted by johner911 View Post
@Mr Green

Thx for the explanation. But to put it in perspective.
There are not a lot of folks that do consistent nonstop traffic delivery to a single network. As monetizer's best role is as a sink for sub-prime traffic (nonbillable on primary offer), the traffic to it oscillates same as for the normal primary campaigns.
So its normal that traffic pauses for periods of time.

Specific example:

I have 1 guy learning affiliate solo, he is launching 1 campaign per day doing little ad spend around 10-20, he dumps all sub-target to monetizer. One day he might do 5 bucks on moneziter , then its silent for a week.. He gets suspensions weekly.
It is really demotivating for him to check each day if monetizer is working or if he is sending traffic to a dud.

Now I would understand this mentality of pausing and "traffic is required to keep running", if I didnt have another guy enrolled in wamc and being pushed to run monetizer. So obivousely monetizer is intended to also be used as a tool for newbie affilites. This combined with a clausule of no traffic = pause makes no sense.
Hey John, let me chimp in here additionally to Lorenzo:

While what you say is partly true (monetizer being used mainly for remnant monetization), we're generating medium-high 5 digits daily only by targeted traffic from our pubs. While we're ' known ' for monetizing remnant traffic, at the same time, we receive a significant amount of traffic by our pubs who specifically target segments. So saying the best role is to use monetizer just for remnant traffic is a bit single-sided.

Regarding temporary suspension of accounts: it's common practice to do so, you'll face this issue with other networks not just us. Especially with rotator networks. The main reason here is, as Lorenzo pointed out, we're showing some data we don't want outside people to know.

Put yourself in our shoes: by having inactive accounts live, we're allowing people to see stats, try to reverse engineer our setups, find out which offers are doing well, see what's trending currently on live data and a lot of other things we prefer not to publically mention.

As you've said we're locking accounts with unpaid funds - there's nothing easier to reach out to the support and get this solved. I'm not sure about the numbers you're talking here, or if the guys entered their payment details and/or reached out directly to us, but we got around 900 pubs who all will confirm they get paid on time with no issues.

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