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Starting with native ads - Gemini (8)


06-28-2016 01:51 PM #1 jessejames (Member)
Starting with native ads - Gemini

Hi,

I've been in affiliate marketing via SEO for a few years, but not I'm starting with paid -- and I think native ads are the best for me since I've been working with those types of landers, blogs etc. for SEO purposes. I've been working in diet and supplements via SEO, and I think I want to dothe same for native.

At the moment I have:
- Voluum
- Spy tool
- Cloaker
- Budget $100-200 daily for starters. I want to stick to one network at first, and have picked Gemini since it's yahoo, and they have a lot of demographic data, and seem to be relatively cheap.

I've been reading a lot here on the forum, but I was wondering if there's anything else I need to be aware of. Is the budget too low?

How do you guys do your bidding strategy? Higher than suggested to get more data on placements, or lower?


06-28-2016 01:54 PM #2 sebastian_r (Member)

Add a 0 to your budget, or start in a tiny tiny geo. Its an expensive game.


06-29-2016 04:37 PM #3 jessejames (Member)

No chance of getting anything done at $200 per day?

I don't really have a lot of money to invest, my aboslute max atm. is around $10k over time to get the ball rolling. With my budget, do you suggest other traffic sources?


06-29-2016 04:58 PM #4 sebastian_r (Member)

If you're new to paid traffic... no.

There are lots of moving parts that you need to figure out e.g. geo, offer, creatives, lander, placements, channels, scripts, bidding, day parting.

Finding a winning combo without understanding most of the moving parts won't end nicely.

Learning basic stuff on native would be madness. It will kill your budget within days.

Rather learn on pops or display, make a few shekles, then use your knowledge on native if you still want to make the jump.

You can push an low payout offer on mobile to learn about tracking, blacklisting, bidding, day parting, offer & geo selection.


06-30-2016 10:02 AM #5 jessejames (Member)

OK, thanks -- I'll re-visit this plan with a bigger budget down the line.


08-05-2016 09:36 AM #6 kalarr (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jessejames View Post
I've been reading a lot here on the forum, but I was wondering if there's anything else I need to be aware of.
Do you have enough credit cards ready to burn? because you will eventually get banned even with a cloaker.


08-05-2016 10:05 AM #7 nobelium (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jessejames View Post
Hi,

I've been in affiliate marketing via SEO for a few years, but not I'm starting with paid -- and I think native ads are the best for me since I've been working with those types of landers, blogs etc. for SEO purposes. I've been working in diet and supplements via SEO, and I think I want to dothe same for native.

At the moment I have:
- Voluum
- Spy tool
- Cloaker
- Budget $100-200 daily for starters. I want to stick to one network at first, and have picked Gemini since it's yahoo, and they have a lot of demographic data, and seem to be relatively cheap.

I've been reading a lot here on the forum, but I was wondering if there's anything else I need to be aware of. Is the budget too low?

How do you guys do your bidding strategy? Higher than suggested to get more data on placements, or lower?
Hello Jessejames,

I've been doing Native ads for like 3-4 months now and you're going to love it!

I normally like to enter the market with an average bid... You don't want to bid too low so that you don't get any traffic but if you bid too high... you may burn your budget too fast.

Keep a middle point and collect data beforehand... That said, if a specific placement seems to work really well for you, then up the bid slightly and like that until you find the best bid for you and the CPA you're looking for.

Good luck!


08-06-2016 08:58 PM #8 shahzaibali89 (Member)

i do have that already arranged 25-30 master card on monthly basis for one of my client i used to work with is anyone out there who can share the strategy or work on JV basis would be appreciated


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