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06-16-2016 09:03 AM
#1
thechosenone (Member)
How Would You Invest $10 000 To Get To $10 000 Per Day?
I have $10 000 that I'm looking to aggressively invest/risk.
I would not care at all if i lost all of it as it would not affect my life at all.
I've been a full time online marketer for almost 7 years so I'm not a newb.
My goal is to get to get to at least $10 000 per day profit as quickly as possible.
Given the current state of internet marketing, what would you do if you where me?
06-16-2016 09:33 AM
#2
bobliu (Member)
Easiest way to get those kind of numbers is cloaking + rebills on Native/Facebook. See what's working / replicate / improve. Traffic arbitrage on Facebook with viral content has potential for high numbers with slightly less account burn.
06-16-2016 09:35 AM
#3
affiliaxeoran (Member)
When you say 10,000$ per day profit, are you talking about a long term(ish) thing or a few days of 10,000$ profit?
I would do some spying, see what pops up a lot (niche), look for a similar offer and try to study it and then copy the success in maybe another market (another GEO, another source).
If we are talking about more short term, a strong pin submit or a sweepstakes offer can do the trick.
More long term then eCommerce is a better bet.
I guess it also depends on your experience as a marketer...
06-16-2016 09:48 AM
#4
caurmen (Administrator)
@thechosenone - a couple of quick questions before I offer a recommendation:
1) Are you an experienced affiliate already, or has your online marketing been in other fields? If so, what fields?
2) (I know this one might sound odd) Have you played poker at professional or semi-professional levels before?
06-16-2016 09:49 AM
#5
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
bobliu
Easiest way to get those kind of numbers is cloaking + rebills on Native/Facebook. See what's working / replicate / improve. Traffic arbitrage on Facebook with viral content has potential for high numbers with slightly less account burn.
Yes everything I hear for probably the past 2 years has been facebook. Everyone I trust seems to mention facebook when i tell them about my goal of 10k per day profit.
My only experience with facebook is a very small niche campaign back in 2011 that made a small profit from the start with no optimizing. Have not done any facebook at all besides that.
Also, I'm reluctant to get involved since I dont feel ethically comfortable promoting bull shiet supplements or wrinkle creams or anything like that.
06-16-2016 09:52 AM
#6
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
affiliaxeoran
When you say 10,000$ per day profit, are you talking about a long term(ish) thing or a few days of 10,000$ profit?
I would do some spying, see what pops up a lot (niche), look for a similar offer and try to study it and then copy the success in maybe another market (another GEO, another source).
If we are talking about more short term, a strong pin submit or a sweepstakes offer can do the trick.
More long term then eCommerce is a better bet.
I guess it also depends on your experience as a marketer...
My goal is definitely a reliable/stable $10 000+ per day profit.
06-16-2016 09:55 AM
#7
itamaram69 (Member)
Dropshipping with a Shopify store + FB ads is quite easy to do and get to 5 figure days.
06-16-2016 09:55 AM
#8
thuglife (Member)
Just go to Vegas already.
06-16-2016 09:57 AM
#9
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
caurmen
@thechosenone - a couple of quick questions before I offer a recommendation:
1) Are you an experienced affiliate already, or has your online marketing been in other fields? If so, what fields?
2) (I know this one might sound odd) Have you played poker at professional or semi-professional levels before?
I'm an experienced affiliate marketer and though i started out as a clickbank vendor in a small niche; I've made most of my money in past 5 years as an affiliate marketer.
I have never played poker and I think gambling is stupid though to be honest I dont know much about that world.
06-16-2016 10:01 AM
#10
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
itamaram69
Dropshipping with a
Shopify store + FB ads is quite easy to do and get to 5 figure days.
Very interesting.
Thank you for your post; i will start looking into this.
I dont know what
Shopify is but it seems to me you are talking about using facebook ads to sell physical products.
What type of physical products are you talking about? clothes? shoes? electronics?
And are you suggesting i do this in the big 4 countries (USA, AU.Can,UK) or tier 2 markets or u are suggesting third world countries?
06-17-2016 10:25 AM
#11
caurmen (Administrator)
@thechosenone - aha, my advice to an experienced affiliate is definitely very different to what I would give a newer aff!
Given you're an experienced affiliate already, what's the reason you've not been able to scale your existing campaigns to that level? My first advice would almost always be to go with what you know and find ways to make it scale, but I know there are niches where that just isn't possible.
06-17-2016 02:32 PM
#12
Fabio (Member)
So let me get this straight... you want us to whip out a strategy that will get you from $10k starting capital to $10k/day in revenue... for FREE?
Come on man, the starting capital is the easy part. The strategy and execution part is the most valuable portion of the equation. Anyone with decent networking skills could raise $'s from an investor if they had a proven formula for growth and multiplicity.
06-17-2016 11:13 PM
#13
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
caurmen
@thechosenone - aha, my advice to an experienced affiliate is definitely very different to what I would give a newer aff!
Given you're an experienced affiliate already, what's the reason you've not been able to scale your existing campaigns to that level? My first advice would almost always be to go with what you know and find ways to make it scale, but I know there are niches where that just isn't possible.
My problem is extreme laziness and lack of motivation as soon as I hit 4 figures profit per day. Every time I hit that level i lose all motivation and just spend my time chasing girls and going clubbing.
06-17-2016 11:15 PM
#14
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
Fabio
So let me get this straight... you want us to whip out a strategy that will get you from $10k starting capital to $10k/day in revenue... for FREE?
Come on man, the starting capital is the easy part. The strategy and execution part is the most valuable portion of the equation. Anyone with decent networking skills could raise $'s from an investor if they had a proven formula for growth and multiplicity.
No i do not expect that all. Obviously no one is going to reveal a strategy in details that could jeopardize their own money making efforts. I started this thread looking for general tips and advice and to be pointed in the right direction.
06-18-2016 08:25 AM
#15
dazed1 (Member)
In this game, investing 10k in paid traffic and breaking even is beyond most..
As someone else mentioned, I would suggest cloaking a larger traffic source that has some quality traffic - Facebook or a select few native networks.
Bizop or Casino if you don't want to go down the route of cc rebills and less likely to land you in trouble.
06-18-2016 12:12 PM
#16
mantaray (Member)

Originally Posted by
thechosenone
My problem is extreme laziness and lack of motivation as soon as I hit 4 figures profit per day. Every time I hit that level i lose all motivation and just spend my time chasing girls and going clubbing.
Consider partnering up with someone. You set a goal and split the tasks, costs and profit, bomb each other daily through skype and ask how is your part taking off.
I for one am the kind of person who under-delivers for myself, but goes over the top when others are depending on me. Self-motivation is a constant battle.
It's much easier to blast through a task when there's someone who will be deeply annoyed if you have been lazy. You don't have to be stuck with that buddy forever, but temporary close partnerships can work wonders and successful ones turn into lasting friendship. Making money online is much easier and less mentally straining when you have at least a couple close colleagues.
Just make sure that if you do partner up with someone, that you are on the same level or able to share knowledge evenly from crossing fields (some people can be technically gifted while others are better at coming up with angles and creatives, spying, account farming methods etc.) - otherwise it will get very annoying, very fast.
06-18-2016 12:24 PM
#17
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)
Some great advice here. Finding a partner is the hardest thing there is. You need one that is open and honest with you and shares the same work ethic. This is super hard to find. Also its best if your partner is local.
06-18-2016 12:54 PM
#18
sebastian_r (Member)
@iAmAttila whats your take on partnering up vs. building a team of employees / VAs? In todays environment, would you still go down the route you choose a couple years ago?
06-18-2016 01:38 PM
#19
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
sebastian_r
@iAmAttila whats your take on partnering up vs. building a team of employees / VAs? In todays environment, would you still go down the route you choose a couple years ago?
You cant do 10x at once well. Best to partner with someone who can dedicate themselves to that one project and build a team for it.
1 person has to be dedicated fully
06-20-2016 07:50 AM
#20
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
mantaray
Consider partnering up with someone. You set a goal and split the tasks, costs and profit, bomb each other daily through skype and ask how is your part taking off.
I for one am the kind of person who under-delivers for myself, but goes over the top when others are depending on me. Self-motivation is a constant battle.
It's much easier to blast through a task when there's someone who will be deeply annoyed if you have been lazy. You don't have to be stuck with that buddy forever, but temporary close partnerships can work wonders and successful ones turn into lasting friendship. Making money online is much easier and less mentally straining when you have at least a couple close colleagues.
Just make sure that if you do partner up with someone, that you are on the same level or able to share knowledge evenly from crossing fields (some people can be technically gifted while others are better at coming up with angles and creatives, spying, account farming methods etc.) - otherwise it will get very annoying, very fast.
Thanks for this suggestion.
I'm not sure my personality type will work well with someone in such a format but I'll give it some serious thought.
06-20-2016 07:53 AM
#21
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
iAmAttila
Some great advice here. Finding a partner is the hardest thing there is. You need one that is open and honest with you and shares the same work ethic. This is super hard to find. Also its best if your partner is local.
Well my problem is i have no work ethic once i get beyond 4 figures per day profit. I dont get how you guys get motivated to keep scaling. As soon as i start making 4 figures profit per day I lose all interest in doing any sort of work.
06-20-2016 08:17 AM
#22
Mr Green (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
thechosenone
Well my problem is i have no work ethic once i get beyond 4 figures per day profit. I dont get how you guys get motivated to keep scaling. As soon as i start making 4 figures profit per day I lose all interest in doing any sort of work.
This is pretty key. Why do you want to make 10k per day if you aren't motivated to get there? What's the reason behind this number?
There is nothing wrong with hitting 4 figures per day profit. You can immediately achieve nearly financial goal or purchase people set when in a 9-5.
Once you constantly hit 4 figures profit a day, and want to keep scaling from there, I believe in most cases the motivation needs to/does change from a financial motivation to more of a personal motivation.
For me, I'm extremely competitive person. I'm going to be motivated till the cows get home to keep on beating my highest score (daily profit). I'm "lucky" to have this innate desire to grow and improve in all aspects of life. The profit I earn at the end of the day in is just
one of the scoring mechanisms used to track my growth.
I'd recommend reading this thread for 4 years ago, it's still as relevant today.
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?6763-Whats-Your-Motivation
06-21-2016 06:08 AM
#23
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
This is pretty key. Why do you want to make 10k per day if you aren't motivated to get there? What's the reason behind this number?
There is nothing wrong with hitting 4 figures per day profit. You can immediately achieve nearly financial goal or purchase people set when in a 9-5.
Once you constantly hit 4 figures profit a day, and want to keep scaling from there, I believe in most cases the motivation needs to/does change from a financial motivation to more of a personal motivation.
For me, I'm extremely competitive person. I'm going to be motivated till the cows get home to keep on beating my highest score (daily profit). I'm "lucky" to have this innate desire to grow and improve in all aspects of life. The profit I earn at the end of the day in is just
one of the scoring mechanisms used to track my growth.
I'd recommend reading this thread for 4 years ago, it's still as relevant today.
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?6763-Whats-Your-Motivation
Well I definitely want to make 10k+ profit per day but i guess i just have some sort of mental block when i'm already making money. It's really weird. I literally cant force myself to work. So far this month for example I've pretty much done no work. I want to and I wake up every day intending to but then just end up watching TV, playing sports and then at night I hit the clubs. This has been my life for 4 years. The only time I ever work is when my campaigns die and hit 0. Then i'll work hard for 6-8 weeks and then as soon as I hit 4 figures per day and/or have 6 figures saved up I lose all ability to force myself to work.
I've read TONS of books on this and have consulted many people but I'm still stuck in this. My mom actually thinks I have some sort of psychological problem and she wants me to see a psychologist and I'm open to it.
But yeah I definitely want to make 10k per day because at that level there are definitely things I can do and want to do that right now i cant.
Keep in mind that I'm still at that phase where all I think about is sex/girls so maybe with age as my sex drive naturally lowers I'll be more motivated to make tons of money. Really right now I absolutely love clubbing/chasing girls; I'm addicted to that lifestyle and the only time I ever stop is when I literally have no money.
06-21-2016 06:12 AM
#24
Mr Green (Administrator)
^^ Haha out of curiosity how old are you?
06-21-2016 07:23 AM
#25
sebastian_r (Member)
If you cant work 10-12 hours/day on your business, you're in the wrong industry. Quit AM and do something else that you're more passionate about.
06-21-2016 07:56 AM
#26
manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
sebastian_r
If you cant work 10-12 hours/day on your business, you're in the wrong industry. Quit AM and do something else that you're more passionate about.
Chasing girls?!
@thechosenone: How does your environment look like? Your family, your friends, the general culture of your country/city? Sounds like you are surrounded by a bad mindset, who values chasing (girls or whatever else), instead of success. Like dogs chasing their own tail, they go in circles, not forward.
The sex drive won't change anytime soon... Old guys still are horny, hahaha. That's why adult dating works.
Look in the mirror, give yourself 2 slaps, stop being lazy, and start working like those who do make $10k/day. Or, if you are happy with where you are now, don't change anything.
06-21-2016 07:57 AM
#27
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
^^ Haha out of curiosity how old are you?
I just turned 24. I've been making money online since high school. I've never had a real job in my adult life.
06-21-2016 07:59 AM
#28
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
sebastian_r
If you cant work 10-12 hours/day on your business, you're in the wrong industry. Quit AM and do something else that you're more passionate about.
I disagree completely. I never work that much and I've gone to $0 and come back several times without working anywhere near that much.
06-21-2016 08:04 AM
#29
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
manu_adefy
Chasing girls?!
@thechosenone: How does your environment look like? Your family, your friends, the general culture of your country/city? Sounds like you are surrounded by a bad mindset, who values chasing (girls or whatever else), instead of success. Like dogs chasing their own tail, they go in circles, not forward.
The sex drive won't change anytime soon... Old guys still are horny, hahaha. That's why adult dating works.
Look in the mirror, give yourself 2 slaps, stop being lazy, and start working like those who do make $10k/day. Or, if you are happy with where you are now, don't change anything.
Well I dont have any friend in the industry. The only people i talk to about affiliate marketing are my affiliate managers. In real life I dont know a single person in this industry.
I spend most of time playing sports with my friends who are in university and with my family.
And yeah I'm completely addicted to the player lifestyle and trying to sleep with as many girls as possible.
The last time i was at $0 was last year , then i saved up 6 figures over 3-4 months of working hard then I moved to Vegas and spent the next 4 months going clubbing literally every single day.
And now I'm not happy with where I am at all.
It's insane man; i literally cannot force myself to work.
I want to i really do but I just cant unless I hit $0.
I need to find a way out of this; if at least i could force myself to work even just 3-4 hours per day I'd be fine and I'm sure i'd quickly get to 10k per day profit.
I literally cannot force myself to work at all; like this month I've done pretty much nothing productive business related.
It's almost like i have a mental block or some legitimate psychological problem.
I can only force myself to work when I'm at $0.
I really think my problem is sex related though; all i think about most of the day is girls/sex.
Right now I'm trying to force myself to only go clubbing 3 times per week and its a real struggle as I usually go at least 5 times a week.
06-21-2016 08:30 AM
#30
gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
sebastian_r
If you cant work 10-12 hours/day on your business, you're in the wrong industry. Quit AM and do something else that you're more passionate about.
Depends on your ambition, with couple of hours a day you can earn some bread for the month for sure mate.
06-28-2016 06:51 AM
#31
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
mantaray
ADHD is a spectrum disorder and can be of varying levels. One indication is the severe incapability of regulating motivation. Many ADHD sufferers can get hyper fixated on certain things and over achieve but then completely lack motivation on other things. The adult model is less characterized by hyperactivity, people usually learn to silence the physical symptoms as they age which are usually still present in childhood, which on the other hand makes adult diagnosis harder.
Hedonistic occupations are also often present.
If you really feel that this is real problem for you, I'd skip the psychologist and book an appointment to a private psychiatrist instead, preferably someone who specializes in adult ADHD. He will be able to asses your situation and forward you to somewhere else if it turns out you are having problems with something else.
The fact that you are acknowledging you are having problems, but are unable to do anything about them even though you've tried is in my opinion a good enough reason to get help.
I also suggest you start reading books on investing. Get fixated about investing. You can begin to secure your future while putting money aside and have less to spend at the club. Seeing your portfolio grow and grow while investing more and more motivates you to grind harder so you have more to invest and your net worth grows even larger.
Finally, if you are able to hit x,xxx$ whenever you feel like it, that means you most likely know your stuff. Sounds stupid simple, but you just need to scale your current system up until you hit 10k. Hiring helping hands or teaming up for revshare as suggested above is a good idea.
Amazing post man; thanks a lot.
Definitely seems what u said about ADHD applies to me.
I'll start looking into psychiatry and how that can help me.
Hopefully I'm close to rock bottom with this problem.
I've been feeling super depressed lately about this.
When i turned 24 a few weeks ago I gave this big speech to my family about how I would change and it was do or die because I was officially no longer in my early 20s.
The fact that less then 1 month later I'm still in the same spot shows that I have a major major problem that could ruin the rest of my life if I'm not careful.
I'll consider everything u suggested. Thanks again.
06-28-2016 06:53 AM
#32
thechosenone (Member)

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
The reason why this thread is going "off topic" is because the orginal question is not really one that is well thought out.
It is assuming that 10K is the major contraint.
It is not.
A lack of $10K upfront funds is not what prevents people from generating $3,500,000 a year. Similarly, a lack of 100K of upfront funds is not what prevents people from generating $35,000,000 a year.
A much better question is, what are the ingredients required to create a $3.5 million a year business?
Part of the secret in life to getting the answers you need is asking the right questions.
Thanks for reminding me of this.
I get what u mean; very simple advice but also in a way very profound.
07-02-2016 06:11 AM
#33
anarchy (Member)
Consider changing your inner circle of friends. Surround yourself with people who are at that level or motivated and working towards getting to that level. Seems like a stupid simple concept but it's fucking powerful. Whether if it's through osmosis or peer pressure, if you truly want to get to that 10k level then being constantly around people who are always talking about it and working at it will change your actions and the make you think twice about the decisions that have led you down a path of mediocrity and no motivation.
07-02-2016 02:02 PM
#34
MrClean (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
anarchy
Consider changing your inner circle of friends. Surround yourself with people who are at that level or motivated and working towards getting to that level. Seems like a stupid simple concept but it's fucking powerful. Whether if it's through osmosis or peer pressure, if you truly want to get to that 10k level then being constantly around people who are always talking about it and working at it will change your actions and the make you think twice about the decisions that have led you down a path of mediocrity and no motivation.
Anarchy nailed it with this.
@OP. The only reason you're getting lazy once you start hitting $xxxx/day is because you're hanging out with people making way less then you so everyone (including yourself) thinks youre the shit.
That's what's holding you back. Become friends with 5 people who are all making $10,000/day and you will become the 6th. That is all.
07-03-2016 11:53 PM
#35
rostropowich (Member)
Original Topic sounded promising and interesting. Turned into personal problems I couldn't care less about (no offense).
So dropshipping/Shopify, pin submits, cloaking on facebook. Broad enough to not reveal anything specific and most of these topics are not that easy to do anyway (try getting/scaling facebook accounts, likely you will fail)
Why not suggesting more topics? Pretty sure this would make a popular post
Or otherwise maybe re-name the post to how to avoid procrastination?
07-09-2016 08:26 PM
#36
barman ()
I would use $1,000 of that money to hire a big burly dude to punch you in the face.
Every time you start slacking on the work you're supposed to be doing, BAM! Punch in the face.
Every time you call up your friends to see what's going on this weekend, BAM! Punch in the face.
Every time you get dressed with the intention of going out clubbing, BAM! Punch in the face.
07-09-2016 08:36 PM
#37
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)
dont take this offensively, but probably the best thing to do in your case is it party it all away, do some crazy shit, and then you'll be motivated to work again and make more money, although more this time.
thats what i did. it works pretty well.
08-18-2016 01:45 AM
#38
csstaq (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
zippi101
Anarchy nailed it with this.
@OP. The only reason you're getting lazy once you start hitting $xxxx/day is because you're hanging out with people making way less then you so everyone (including yourself) thinks youre the shit.
That's what's holding you back. Become friends with 5 people who are all making $10,000/day and you will become the 6th. That is all.
Amen @zippi101 @anarchy!
@thechosenone You don't have to tell us, but ask yourself what your friends and/or family think about your 10k/day goals? If they think your crazy, well, you have to cut them off. We've all heard "when is enough enough?" from our relatives/friends (who are all dirt poor, I might add).
You have to make the tough call: do you want to be super successful or a good son/friend?
Don't worry, there's nothing wrong with you.
Keep shagging them hoes.
08-18-2016 05:33 AM
#39
smartb (Member)
First post.. why not.
Part of the issue is you do not care about the money, so you will likely not put in the appropriate effort to use it effectively.
You are also not holding your self accountable. The only thing stopping you from succeeding is you telling yourself you 'literally just cant'. Large challenges are much easier to tackle if you break them into smaller tasks.
Personal suggestions:
1) Assuming you live with your parents, move out. Bills are a bitch.
2) Re order your habits. You like clubbing? Okay, make it a personal reward. Get yourself into the habit of 'rewarding' yourself with social time after you have completed predetermined goals.
3) Get an office. Some people find having a dedicated space puts them in the working mindset, away from distractions. Co-working space is cheap and will surround you with other motivated individuals.
4) Try surrounding yourself with motivational material. Be it music, or stuff like Eric Thomas speeches. Be the lion!
5) Identify the major road blocks in work that you trip on. Is it creating ads that you find boring? Outsource this, and enjoy the fun parts. The challenges.
6) Attend the AW events, network. If social presence drives you, networking with people more successful should be a major motivator.
Investing in yourself is imperative. Now lets see that $10k day.
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