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Finally. From Pimpin' to Rippin (5)

06-17-2016 07:29 AM #1 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Dude thats SICK!

Awesome shit. Youre gonna make it, just stay focused.

06-18-2016 08:30 AM #2 samybillionaire (Member)

Great post! I like the way you think

06-18-2016 11:42 PM #3 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Hey from one Torontonian to another!

Great beginning of a follow-along! So far so good. I only have a few comments:

1)Instead of just testing 2 landers and a single offer, you can increase your chances of success by testing 5+ landers and 2-3 offers. You don't need an amazing lander, but you do need to have one that's at least decent, and by testing 5+ that look/function as different from each other as possible, you'd have a much better chance of including at least 1 decent lander in the mix. The 2-3 offers should be PROVEN offers that AMs are telling you are hot offers that multiple affiliates are running with success.

This approach will avoid a popular catch-22 situation where you're running one offer and one lander and neither is proven, and then when you get a bad ROI you're left wondering whether it's the offer or the lander that's the problem.

Next step after that: Once you have a winner offer (from the 2-3) and a winning lander (from the 5+), I would suggest testing another batch of offers. I wouldn't even suggest to test lander variations until you've found a good offer, because lander variations will usually not increase ROI by the amount that testing offers could.

2)The screenshots you've attached are a bit small. Next time, please consider uploading them to imgur.com, then grabbing the BBCode link and simply pasting that into your post. You'll get nice big clear pictures instead of the little dinky ones when you include pics as attachments.

3)Regarding bidding: I like to duplicate a camp a couple times, assign different bids to them and let them run for a while to see which ones does the best ROI, and then pause the other camps and just use that one to test landers and offers to save money.

Basically I would check the traffic source's bid estimator for an average bid, then bid low, above-average, and high. I'd run each camp to 10-20x payout and then check their ROI. If you want to give this approach a try, remember to set a low budget for each camp, especially the high-bid camp, just in case you don't get conversions.

The trend is that the higher you bid, the better the traffic quality you get. By bidding low you do get cheap impressions, but the quality may suck. By bidding high you're paying more for the traffic, but the higher conversion rate may result in higher ROI. You never know until you test different bids. Don't be afraid to bid high. I've had camps where lower bids did negative ROI whereas higher bids did profitable ROI right off the bat. Don't be the cheap newbie who bids low and gets all the unwanted traffic while all the pros are bidding high and snapping up the best traffic.

4)Regarding your AM offering to "make a camp" for you: That certainly sounds interesting! Could you please describe that arrangement in greater detail?


Looking forward to more progress and more stats!



Amy

06-19-2016 12:08 AM #4 simon_89 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Next step after that: Once you have a winner offer (from the 2-3) and a winning lander (from the 5+), I would suggest testing another batch of offers. I wouldn't even suggest to test lander variations until you've found a good offer, because lander variations will usually not increase ROI by the amount that testing offers could.

3)Regarding bidding: I like to duplicate a camp a couple times, assign different bids to them and let them run for a while to see which ones does the best ROI, and then pause the other camps and just use that one to test landers and offers to save money.

Basically I would check the traffic source's bid estimator for an average bid, then bid low, above-average, and high. I'd run each camp to 10-20x payout and then check their ROI. If you want to give this approach a try, remember to set a low budget for each camp, especially the high-bid camp, just in case you don't get conversions.
@abysss, to expand further on Amy's post:

When you take the recommended AM 2-3 offers and find the one that works. Further I would take the winning offer and look at their page. After examining their page, sign up for different affiliate networks to see which network has the same offer page or really similar(ex. look at the domain name-It may be the same domain name but different layout). By doing this, you can test which lander offer converts the best and go with that offer.

Please see my posts on @ktrains follow along about bids. I think it's a good place to start on how to create specific bidding campaigns.

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post276910

06-28-2016 07:03 AM #5 exmachina (Member)

AM offering to "make a camp" for you...TAKE IT. AM has in house lp creative team to design for themselves and for special affiliates like you who created a relationship with AM. Don't abuse it but use it wisely. The lp are pretty good and better than fiverr; however, get ready to spend at least $500 plus and drive traffic to them using the creatives she gives you on specific campaigns you like to run. cus she will ask you, "Ok i got these new lp for you, when i can get some feedback on your A/B testing...".

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