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05-25-2016 09:13 AM #1 davidep (Member)
Newbie confused with web hosting

As a beginner I'm reading and learning a lot thank this forum and its members. Anyway, I found that some guides and tutorial are old (around 2013) and things may have changed so I'd like to ask a couple of question about the very first thing to do regarding the hardware part.

I've never known anything about technical web stuff but I have read here that, in order to serve my landing pages (I learned it's something to do sooner or later), I need a server and to do so should register on Beyond Hosting.

Here are my noob questions, hoping in your patience :

- Is the VPS "Starter/Hybrid" Offer enough or a more expensive one is needed?

- I notice that if I choose a domain I'll have an extra-cost. Is this necessary or not? And if it is, I guess I'll have to choose a name that will be suitable for any offer I'm going to promote later. So I think "www.myname.com" is better than "www.freegames22222222.com" since I may need to promote (for exemple) adult offer in the future. Correct?

- Once that I'm registered, I'll have to create my landing pages, so where to start? Wordpress or other? Where do I find a guide about it?

Thanks in advance anyone!


05-25-2016 05:43 PM #2 Gordon (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
- Is the VPS "Starter/Hybrid" Offer enough or a more expensive one is needed?
The VPS "Starter/Hybrid" package should be fine. That's what I ordered. You can get the first six months for %50 off. Use This code: STACKTHATMONEY

You may not need the VPS right away. If you follow the Mobile Cookbook, the appetizer section involves direct linking to the offer.

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
- I notice that if I choose a domain I'll have an extra-cost. Is this necessary or not? And if it is, I guess I'll have to choose a name that will be suitable for any offer I'm going to promote later. So I think "www.myname.com" is better than "www.freegames22222222.com" since I may need to promote (for exemple) adult offer in the future. Correct?
You have to get a domain. I asked a similar question and this is what Caurmen said:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post271661

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
- Once that I'm registered, I'll have to create my landing pages, so where to start? Wordpress or other? Where do I find a guide about it?
I'm not at this stage yet, but I do believe the tool of choice is Adobe Muse. You get a thirty day trial.

Cheers,
Gordon


05-25-2016 07:45 PM #3 davidep (Member)

Thank you very much Gordon. That was useful! I've got one remaining doubt. The correct combination should be Beyond hosting + Prosper but I read that it's "linux based" and also on the BeyondHosting page appear the word Linux. I know I may sound a complete idiot but does that mean that Windows can't be used?


05-25-2016 08:00 PM #4 shepherd (Member)

If a server is Linux based it means that the server's OS is Linux (just like the OS of your laptop/pc is windows or Mac OS X). Some applications/software might only run on Windows (so they don't work on Linux or Mac OS X), or the other way around.

Does that clear things up a bit? If not, feel free to ask!

Edit: I see you mention Prosper in your message. If you're just starting out, I would suggest either following the mobile cookbook (you don't need a tracker for that), or sign up for one of the hosted trackers (Volume, Adsbridge or Thrive). They might be more expensive, depending on your needs, but you don't need to worry about server architecture that way, which frees up time to spend on learning other aspects of affiliate marketing.


05-25-2016 09:12 PM #5 davidep (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by shepherd View Post
If a server is Linux based it means that the server's OS is Linux (just like the OS of your laptop/pc is windows or Mac OS X). Some applications/software might only run on Windows (so they don't work on Linux or Mac OS X), or the other way around.

Does that clear things up a bit? If not, feel free to ask!
Thank you for the information Gordon! The only doubt that I have about this Linux question is if beyondhosting and what tracker are ok with Windows for the creation of landing pages
Edit: I see you mention Prosper in your message. If you're just starting out, I would suggest either following the mobile cookbook (you don't need a tracker for that), or sign up for one of the hosted trackers (Volume, Adsbridge or Thrive). They might be more expensive, depending on your needs, but you don't need to worry about server architecture that way, which frees up time to spend on learning other aspects of affiliate marketing
Well friend, I must confess that all is technical part really bothers me but I need to have the hardware-software part clear just to be able to create landing pages .


05-25-2016 09:13 PM #6 shepherd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
Thank you for the information Gordon! The only doubt that I have about this Linux question is if it is ok with Windows for the creation of landing pages
I'm not Gordon haha! But yes, you can create the landing pages on your own computer with your favourite tool (Muse, DreamWeaver) and then upload it to the right location in your Linux-server and it should display fine

Well friend, I must confess that all is technical part really bothers me but I need to have the hardware-software part clear just to be able to create landing pages .
You're right, in order to host your landing pages you do need a server of some sort. I have also heard about hosting landing pages on a CDN if it's just html/js, which might be cheaper Can anyone clarify on that?

EDIT: I found this guide by Caurmen: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-Cost-Way-Ever


05-26-2016 08:40 AM #7 davidep (Member)

I'm not Gordon haha!
Ahahahh sorry, I had some sleepless nights and was completely devastated .



Thank you for the link, I'll study it.

Anyway, I've made up my mind!
I want to start working (and earning obviously ) as soon as possible so I'll follow all the istructions in the appetizer for mobile and maybe use the facebook-mobile apps combo. Meanwhile I'll learn all the things that I can't understand now and update this thread if needed.

At least, I won't waste time


05-26-2016 11:48 AM #8 caurmen (Administrator)

Some quick recommendations:

Choose your tracker first. It determines everything else. Voluum is the simplest, FunnelFlux and Thrive have more features but are more technical. I'd recommend against Prosper unless you have a really low budget these days. If you follow the Appetiser you won't need a tracker at all.

If you're using Thrive or FunnelFlux (or Prosper) you will need a VPS server. The BeyondHosting starter VPS should be fine.

Your server, if you have one, will run Linux. That doesn't affect your ability to create landing pages on Windows, or a Mac, or a Raspberry Pi for that matter.

If you're using Voluum, you don't need a server. Follow the tutorial Shepherd linked above to host your landers on S3.

If you're following the Appetiser, you won't need a server. Just follow the steps in the guide.

Hope that helps!


05-26-2016 12:44 PM #9 davidep (Member)

Thank you caurmen, you helped as always .

As said, I'll follow the appetizer (I've already filled the application of F5Media and Go2Mobi - I'm waiting for their approvals) so at least I'll start doing. Meanwhile I'll study all the rest.


05-26-2016 02:40 PM #10 shepherd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
Choose your tracker first. It determines everything else. Voluum is the simplest, FunnelFlux and Thrive have more features but are more technical. I'd recommend against Prosper unless you have a really low budget these days. If you follow the Appetiser you won't need a tracker at all.
Great advice as always caurmen! What is your opinion about the tracker AdsBridge? This one includes a feature to host (and design) landing pages as well. Are there any major drawbacks compared to Voluum?


05-27-2016 10:11 AM #11 caurmen (Administrator)

@shepherd - Adsbridge I haven't tried, so I don't really have an opinion on. I really should try it!

The other three - Voluum, Funnelflux, and Thrive - I've either used or in the case of Thrive I used its predecessor. And I like all of them as trackers for different reasons.


05-30-2016 01:46 PM #12 AlexAdsbridge (Member)

Hey, @shepherd, nice to e-meet you. You may try adsbridge, as we offer a free trial and features are really close to the Voluum. If you like a SaaS solutions of course. Our support team will definitely be glad to assist you

and @davidep you for sure may find interesting our HTML and visual editor, as well as we provide free hosting for landers created on our side. You may take a look at our templates.


06-12-2016 09:14 PM #13 davidep (Member)

I use this thread about my beginning not to open another one .

I need landing pages and consequently a tracker but I don't know which one to use because of some doubts

Reading the forum it seems that the most suggested tracker is Voluum because it's fast since it's cloud-hosted, performing and has a global infrastructure. The only thing is that the landing pages must be only HTML so if I will want to create something more complex later on I won't be able to do it because PHP can go only on VPS.

Since I'm at the very beginning I'd like to save my money for campaigns rather and since Voluum is 99$/month and LP will be only html I'm inclined to VPS with BeyondHosting + Prosper as a tracker so I'll spend only the money for hosting. But even here, Prosper doesn't seem to work very good and a bad, slow tracking system means a lot of wasted money.

So please, any suggestion? Are html LP enough in order to be successful or sooner or later I will need PHP too?


06-13-2016 04:31 AM #14 thedav (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
Reading the forum it seems that the most suggested tracker is Voluum because it's fast since it's cloud-hosted, performing and has a global infrastructure. The only thing is that the landing pages must be only HTML so if I will want to create something more complex later on I won't be able to do it because PHP can go only on VPS.

You can use php landing pages with Voluum. Tracker hosting is not the same as LP hosting. You can get a separate VPS for LPs, and still use voluum


06-13-2016 05:03 AM #15 eddiezhan (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by davidep View Post
I use this thread about my beginning not to open another one .

I need landing pages and consequently a tracker but I don't know which one to use because of some doubts

Reading the forum it seems that the most suggested tracker is Voluum because it's fast since it's cloud-hosted, performing and has a global infrastructure. The only thing is that the landing pages must be only HTML so if I will want to create something more complex later on I won't be able to do it because PHP can go only on VPS.

Since I'm at the very beginning I'd like to save my money for campaigns rather and since Voluum is 99$/month and LP will be only html I'm inclined to VPS with BeyondHosting + Prosper as a tracker so I'll spend only the money for hosting. But even here, Prosper doesn't seem to work very good and a bad, slow tracking system means a lot of wasted money.

So please, any suggestion? Are html LP enough in order to be successful or sooner or later I will need PHP too?
Rackspace CDN plus voluum. Fast, reliable, simple. Best way to learn.

HTML/CSS/JS landers are fine, especially if you're just starting out. You'll only need PHP if you're cloaking or doing fancy stuff with your LPs.


06-13-2016 03:21 PM #16 davidep (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thedav View Post
You can use php landing pages with Voluum. Tracker hosting is not the same as LP hosting. You can get a separate VPS for LPs, and still use Voluum
I guess my confusion made me misunderstand this but now I see. I can always have a PHP lander and use Voluum as a tracker instead of Prosper. My doubt was born because while reading the guide I misunderstood the fact that Prosper was suggested but it actually was only in case you are very low in budget.
Quote Originally Posted by eddiezhan View Post
Rackspace CDN plus voluum. Fast, reliable, simple. Best way to learn.

HTML/CSS/JS landers are fine, especially if you're just starting out. You'll only need PHP if you're cloaking or doing fancy stuff with your LPs.
That's what I was guessing..and hoping.

Thank you guys! You helped me a lot


06-14-2016 08:42 AM #17 AlexAdsbridge (Member)

Hey, davidep, just make a quick note, as you mentioned above:

(Since I'm at the very beginning I'd like to save my money for campaigns rather and since Voluum is 99$/month and LP will be only html I'm inclined to VPS with BeyondHosting + Prosper as a tracker so I'll spend only the money for hosting. But even here, Prosper doesn't seem to work very good and a bad, slow tracking system means a lot of wasted money.)

That way you maybe interested in cheaper, but not worse solution AdsBridge. I can't doubt that Voluum is the most popular solution, but it doesn't mean the best. There are even more features than Voluum has, only the price is less.

(Reading the forum it seems that the most suggested tracker is Voluum because it's fast since it's cloud-hosted, performing and has a global infrastructure. The only thing is that the landing pages must be only HTML so if I will want to create something more complex later on I won't be able to do it because PHP can go only on VPS.)

Btw, AdsBridge allows you to create landings in visual or html editor, or you can use one of available templates, or even add a self-hosted LP.

I don't want to recite all benefits here, so you discover them by yourself.


06-14-2016 09:37 AM #18 davidep (Member)

Alex. As I said in other post, I'm indeed going to start with your Adsbridge mainly because of the price and the quite good fame and if things won't go fine I'll change tracker. Quite simple


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