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05-24-2016 07:14 AM #1 ianternet (Senior Member)
Using Monetizer on PreSell Pages--?

Got a question for the advertisers and affiliates. I am thinking of using monetizer in my presell pages... I want to popup the offer and the original page loads the monetizer link. Have anyone here seen a change in their conversions in the CPA side.

I want to make sure that Im not losing if I add the script on a pop under basis. I am about to do a test and see if it does but I want to know if it has caused any issues with others that may have tried this method before?

this is how it would flow.

Presell Page >> When Clicked ot Offer >> opens a new tab while the original presell page redirects to a monetizer link

05-24-2016 02:07 PM #2 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Depends on what opens in the original tab. If it's a clean offer with no entry alert, sound or anything that could distract the user, the effect will be low - depends on how many users get the new tab blocked as it can happen at times - it shouldn't be too much if you use the standard "target=_blank" function. But in case it's an aggressive landing page/offer with entry pops or sound, it will kill the original offers CVR.

Test it to see if the extra revenue makes up for the possible loss.

05-24-2016 02:40 PM #3 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by ianternet

Presell Page >> When Clicked ot Offer >> opens a new tab while the original presell page redirects to a monetizer link

I tested this with several ways of opening in new tab and it always performed worse than the original offer alone. Doesn't mean I did it perfectly, so always worth a test but if you did and it's a worse result, it's for sure not unique to your test

05-24-2016 02:48 PM #4 kepe95 (Moderator)

Originally Posted by manu_adefy

Same results here , did worse than just the offer alone - but worth testing in your specific case anyways Ianternet

I tried it with mobile offers , and opening several different things in the tab (content sites with ads, other CPA offers, ..) .. but nothing got a better total ROI than the original funnel alone.

05-24-2016 03:08 PM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Funny that you say that guys, I've been using something similar in adult for years and it usually did boost the overall ROI when I was using non-aggressive offers - didn't try monetizer specifically.

05-24-2016 04:20 PM #6 kepe95 (Moderator)

Funny that you say that guys, I've been using something similar in adult for years and it usually did boost the overall ROI when I was using non-aggressive offers - didn't try monetizer specifically.

Interesting , probably worth testing in every specific case.

In my case the main offer itself was already aggressive (mobile pin submits) , maybe that made the difference. The backup offers were both aggressive and not aggressive , both did not work out for me.

It could also be the technical implementation. Here is how I did it:

To be honest I did not spend too much time experimenting with it though.

05-24-2016 04:40 PM #7 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

I know that sometimes opening a new tab or window can cause the browser to block it, because it thinks its a popup. If that happens, the campaign will be killed of course. Maybe that's what happened.

05-24-2016 04:58 PM #8 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by matuloo

I know that sometimes opening a new tab or window can cause the browser to block it, because it thinks its a popup. If that happens, the campaign will be killed of course. Maybe that's what happened.

It does but I tried more variants, some that don't get blocked. At least not on the top 10 Android browsers I tested on a phone. In my case it was also aggressive only.

It somehow relates to this aggressive vs not aggressive and the effect scripts have: Back button script always did well on aggressive lander and made a non-aggressive lander worse. It could be the same thing here. Lesson is that it's always good to test on an individual basis, and only consult with others on a forum like STM or Skype/FB groups, to see if your test result is a rather big outlier; if that's the case, it could be maybe the test wasn't done correctly.

05-24-2016 07:15 PM #9 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by manu_adefy

Lesson is that it's always good to test on an individual basis, and only consult with others on a forum like STM or Skype/FB groups, to see if your test result is a rather big outlier; if that's the case, it could be maybe the test wasn't done correctly.

Yup, I think its quite clear from this very topic, quite different experience from case to case

05-26-2016 03:34 AM #10 ianternet (Senior Member)

si then let me ask this... on traditional do you guys open a new tab when you open the offer off a presell lander? or keep it in the same window? cause that might be the variable then?

05-26-2016 06:56 AM #11 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by ianternet

si then let me ask this... on traditional do you guys open a new tab when you open the offer off a presell lander? or keep it in the same window? cause that might be the variable then?

I don't add any script to open in a new tab but apps often open in Google Play. Even in this case, the double offer script didn't improve performance. That's my case, let's see what others say.

06-02-2016 02:48 AM #12 ianternet (Senior Member)

RESULTS: it definitely killed conversions by a lot. Im going to see if the pop up _blank makes the difference.

06-02-2016 04:48 AM #13 servandosilva (Member)

Hey Ian.

I've tested a few different scripts to make this work but same results as manu and kepe, I normally see the ROI going down a lot on the original offer.
There are a couple campaigns where it actually boosted the ROI so it's always I normally add to my split tests and systems after working out a campaign.

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