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1st campaign with Leadimpact is not going well, i'm already upset (20)

09-30-2011 08:50 PM #1 dario (Member)
1st campaign with Leadimpact is not going well, i'm already upset

First and only keyword added 3 days ago, approved yesterday

spirithalloween.com/childrens-costumes

I'm the only bidder.
No traffic, very unusual for a website ranked 1,468 in US


So today i've added

spirithalloween.com/chi
thalloween.com/ch
thalloween.com/chi

to find out if someone is bidding on the short version of the URL i'm bidding on.

Result ?
3 keywords disapproved

Reason ?


One or more of your keywords were disapproved for the reason(s) listed below.

Due to our direct relationship with this client, we do not allow third parties to promote the offer.


So is this their policy ?
They wipe out any competitions that goes head to head with them ?

09-30-2011 08:52 PM #2 corp (Member)

yup, they own the traffic. nothing you can do, but move on.

09-30-2011 09:16 PM #3 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Yup , that's how they do business.

We can either accept it and play by their rules or move on...

10-01-2011 10:48 AM #4 dario (Member)

Thank you guys

I've created the same campaign in Mediatraffic. My hope now is it get approved before halloween is over.

10-01-2011 03:29 PM #5 polarbacon (Moderator)

ya LI is 100% an aff.....you are playing in their sandbox....they pitch themselves as a traffic source but they are 100% an aff

10-01-2011 04:59 PM #6 IvanOng (Member)

they make money running cpa offers and offering you to be an advertiser so that they can continue stealing your ideas and campaigns so you pay to help them do all the research..

10-01-2011 06:19 PM #7 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Yup , once one of my AMs confirmed I was competing with LI for a certain offer I was running on LI...

They DO run internal campaigns and a lot of times they will plain rip your stuff.

10-01-2011 06:50 PM #8 ironsight (Member)

So whats the take away from this? Don't run offers on LI?

10-01-2011 06:55 PM #9 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ironsight View Post
So whats the take away from this? Don't run offers on LI?
Yes you should boycott LI.

10-02-2011 01:36 AM #10 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ironsight View Post
So whats the take away from this? Don't run offers on LI?
nah the traffic converts....you just have to take steps to protect yourself....run stuff thru lps...cloak big camps....etc....

10-02-2011 10:33 PM #11 maynzie (Moderator)

Im with Polar on this one, anything I put on Leadimpact I cloak even if its 100% compliant with their rules

10-03-2011 12:34 AM #12 alex_b (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Im with Polar on this one, anything I put on Leadimpact I cloak even if its 100% compliant with their rules
Could you describe a bit what you do exactly for "cloaking"? Is it the same as for FB, showing them some clean lander/offer and after approval change out URLs and hope they don't retro-check your campaign?

10-03-2011 02:59 AM #13 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by alex_b View Post
Could you describe a bit what you do exactly for "cloaking"? Is it the same as for FB, showing them some clean lander/offer and after approval change out URLs and hope they don't retro-check your campaign?
yes bait and switch can work for a few days but they will catch you....kinda have to have some software like you do on fb.....to do it right....

10-07-2011 05:51 AM #14 drhfmn (Member)

custom software....or can you recommend any software out there?

10-07-2011 05:56 AM #15 PhilipShapiro (Member)

They were running BeNaughty US and stole literally 3 of my affiliates ads that were running on there. I had one pub pushing > 100 leads a day on LI, and they contacted him and said he was interfering with their direct relationship so they have to shut his campaign down. Then he went to the targets and noticed his lander was jacked and the campaign was still running...

Careful!

10-07-2011 06:23 AM #16 peraction (Member)

These days I don't know many traffic networks outside of Google and Facebook that don't run internal even if they swear they don't. You think trafficvance doesn't run internal? Plenty of Fish? Sitescout? All the traffic sources affiliates talk about in the open are not only running internal but often are more than happy to steal a good campaign provided its minimal effort to do so.

There's a new business model sweeping the game now, build a traffic network, buy advertising and featured posts on affiliate blogs and forums, let hundreds of money hungry affiliates pay you to find your best traffic and what to run to it, steal it, sell off the rest of the shittier inventory, retire.

You can own the traffic, or own the offer and let everyone else fight it out, or deal with the reality that everyone is watching you when you are buying from these providers, affiliates, networks, merchants, the traffic sources themselves, and even the FTC to just to fuck you if you manage to get around everyone else and still make a bunch of a cash

10-11-2011 07:15 AM #17 theguvna ()

My question is, have any of you offer owners been approached by LI to run internally? I'm assuming if you have something working with their traffic that itd be an option.

10-19-2011 10:33 PM #18 Dr Sitescout ()

Quote Originally Posted by peraction View Post
These days I don't know many traffic networks outside of Google and Facebook that don't run internal even if they swear they don't. You think trafficvance doesn't run internal? Plenty of Fish? Sitescout? All the traffic sources affiliates talk about in the open are not only running internal but often are more than happy to steal a good campaign provided its minimal effort to do so.

There's a new business model sweeping the game now, build a traffic network, buy advertising and featured posts on affiliate blogs and forums, let hundreds of money hungry affiliates pay you to find your best traffic and what to run to it, steal it, sell off the rest of the shittier inventory, retire.
Nonsense. We have never run internal campaigns and never will. Our focus is purely on technology and building a world-class platform. I promise you we have zero desire in taking on the various risks of running affiliate campaigns. As a long-term technology company, that would be an extremely short-sighted and foolish business plan.

10-20-2011 12:50 AM #19 navuud (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sitescout View Post
Nonsense. We have never run internal campaigns and never will. Our focus is purely on technology and building a world-class platform. I promise you we have zero desire in taking on the various risks of running affiliate campaigns. As a long-term technology company, that would be an extremely short-sighted and foolish business plan.
Good to hear.

Looking for the LI cloaker desperately...!

10-20-2011 10:56 AM #20 tijn (Moderator)

like any industry there are different shades of traffic networks. on the one end you have legit ones that dont run internal and dont 'steal', and on the other end there is Lead Impact

All i say is Karma....


and I like playing god

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