Hosting - Where to get a good Dedi? (41)
Anyone know a good dedi that's fast for prosper202 and redirects.
Thanks!
after bbrocks reply to my optimization question, I spoke with tyler over at beyond hosting. 350/mo gets you their base supported dedi, and he seems like a sharp guy. he said he's gotta order a few from dell, so he's a couple weeks out from getting them, but would be worth looking into. they also have better servers available if you are pushing a ton of volume
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I have managed servers at softlayer.com and stormondemand.com - can recommend both.
Thanks for the replies. I'll have to choose one soon, but I'd like to see what Jordan has to say as well.
I can't believe how much money I've lost from having crappy hosting. A couple thousands, or more 
I was using hostgator reseller for a while.
Now I started using hostgator vps level 5, but not sure if that's fast enough for tracking as well as loading LP's.
How much traffic you pushing a day?
I've herd a lot of people saying how good stormondemand is, but I just had a talk with a sales guy on livechat - the worst 'sales' chat I've ever had, he had no idea what he was talking about or what to tell me, then proceeded to tell me I needed to talk to a web developer to find out what kind of traffic my script can handle. To add to that, he took about 5/10mins to respond to each question and then ignored me when I confronted him about the bad service, then again this is one guy in the company, so can't speak for it as a whole, adhustler did a great post on them, look it up.
BeyondHosting is also been talked about quite a bit, I sent them an email 24hours ago, still no response, and quite a few links on their site are broken - Which isn't a good sign!
Try to write an email to Andrew apopowich@liquidweb.com - he knows his stuff!
beyondhosting is quite reputable in the ppv scence, tyler has a package which optimized for p202, the webserver it uses nginx, I'm not with them, I have my own unmanaged vps which also uses nginx which is self managed 
last time my friend push tons of impression until tyler recommended him switch to dedi.
@Firespark: Pushing a lot of traffic so I don't want my vps to slow down or anything.
Let me know if BeyondHosting replies back.
@Durden Will do!
I decided to sign up to beyond hosting's support system, when I did - I got "error404 - page not found", couldn't believe it, you would think they could manage their links at least! Anyway, I refreshed the page and it went away, opened a support ticket and got a reply to each of my questions in about 5mins, lightning fast - not very detailed, but still a decent enough response! With all the people around here complimenting them, I suppose it's worth a shot. You doing Facebook dan? PPV or media buys?
If your doing under 100k traffic per day (just prosper redirects) I think they can set you up on a strong VPS in a few hours, if your talking 1m+ traffic a day then it'll take them a week or so to order in a new server for you.
Let us know, good Luck!
Hey Firespark, I'm concerned that your getting a 404 page. What url did you follow in? Google has a rouge URL to our site that lands it on https:// and our links are only http:// compatible for certin areas.
You sent an email? What address? Sales@beyond.. and tyler.bishop@beyond come directly to my inbox, if you sent it I would have replied you.
Our VPS are all provisioned during daytime hours, typically 15-20 minutes after the order depending on how busy support is, we will open a ticket with you to set it up. We've never allow the customer to do the initial setup, this way we know it gets done right and rarely ever have any issues.
But seriously, if your having any problem at all contact me directly.
Thanks!
I'm happy with the service that Beyond has provided me. I don't have a dedicated server with them, but I do have two VPS's with them. One for 202 and one for CPVLab.
My dedicated server is with Liquidweb, who I also highly recommend. You can't go wrong with either host, and if you aren't too technical and don't want to setup 202/CPVLab then Beyond is the way to go.
I highly suggest liquidweb
Their support is hit an miss from what I've been told by our converted customers :-)
really interesting, I've never had a problem with them support wise
Originally Posted by BeyondHosting-Tyler
you would say that wouldnt you
like heavyt - been with them/storm for just over a year and never had an issue.
same I've been with them for close to 7 years never had a support issue at all.
You running 800,000 pops an hour? Several of our customers running extremely high volume were loosing money at LW just because they had no idea how to setup a box to handle it. One of my customers was paying $1500/mo and the server was still falling on its face, they had NO IDEA what was wrong.
That's what I mean by hit and miss support, because they respond quickly and reset passwords or charge ssh ports don't make it "good".
What do you use their support for? Do you manage your own server or do they do everything for you?
SoftLayer, hands down. Search WF for pretty much any hosting thread and you'll find the same answer.
SoftLayer. /thread
I've got a Liquidweb dedi.
From a performance standpoint, I'm not blown away. I'm far from an expert but thats just my perception. Of course I did downgrade from much better hardware specs at Wiredtree so that probably has something to do with it. Wiredtree performance was awesome but uptime was a major problem for me.
As far as support, I think it would be hard to find a better company. Every ticket I've ever had is answered promptly and professionally. They've built their brand around support and they seem to take it seriously. Anything I've ever asked them to do, they've done so if you're a tech-noob and need hand-holding, Liquidweb is hard to beat.
Then again, I've never run 1,000,000 pops an hour.
You find out who your provider really is when you start putting the pressure on a server. Many people think their support is good because they simply have not experienced better.
I don't have to pitch myself, our customers who need a better than *good* provider know who to talk to.
What's the deal with Wiredtree? Their uptime has been like 98% the past few months.
Originally Posted by BeyondHosting-Tyler
Originally Posted by BeyondHosting-Tyler
That's pretty crazy, 15 hours is a very long time. However if something catastrophic happen like storage failure ect I can see backup restoration taking a few hours. They didn't give a reason why you were offline for so long?
Yep I was running about that, how do you configure yours to handle that much? I do most of my own but anything beyond my abilities I have them do.
Originally Posted by heavyt
Anyway. I'm interested to see whats going on behind the scene at wiredtree, they were always one of the most reputable providers.
I've got a dedi at BH. Tyler's a good guy, always responsive and available all day and most of the night. He's helped me out a bunch getting the server set up and even getting a few things installed and working correctly.
oh all of a sudden high volume techniques are an industry secret oh wow shiver me timbers. I was interested because i was thinking of giving you a try but forget about it now. I've had so many dc's come at me with setups and mesh this and price point that its just as annoying as networks telling you how well their offers convert. If I'm a customer you better damn well disclose how you setup your network because its my money you mess with and if I just trust you and you fuck up i only have my self to blame cause they didn't want to disclose their techniques.
Haha alright calm it down.
The topic is where to get good dedicated hosting, Dan I hope you got your answer!
Originally Posted by heavyt
its cool its just the way i am I've been in the hosting industry so i'm not like other clients, worked at a gov dc, worked at a private dc, worked for the gov on other stuff, I just know hardware and setups and it just interests me thats all but with all the fly by night hosters you know how it is you always hear the same thing like anybody in the first month with a has offers account thinking they own a network ya know.
AS30152, look it up if you think were fly by night.
We've been around for a few years now in this industry, we've got our head on straight and we know what it takes.
I appreciate the fact your nosy about your hardware/software... if you do purchase with us feel free to poke around after we've set you up.
whats your pricing? I got 5 clouds right now, when I was running heavy had 3 clouds on a load balancer but I'm down to one now.
Clouds are stupid for high traffic hosting, the io is never up to par.
What are you looking to handle and with what tracking software?
prosper on its own server with nginx plus modified apache config
db server with modified my.cnf
lp servers with cdn hosted content and varnish cache installed with geoip installed
oh and I did io speed tests compared to a stand alone server
No reason to split them apart, that's only hurting your performance.
Prosper does not batch SQL transactions, its going to try and do every single transaction one at a time over the network. That's just unneeded excess overhead.
Why is apache involved? Apaches about worthless when it comes to doing something productive.
IO test compared to a stand alone server? What does that even mean?
liquidweb/stormondemand for managed, softlayer > all for unmanaged.
been with both for a loong time.. softlayer since they started.
Originally Posted by Mr Green
dont go with wiredtree, left those bastards after having my server shut down for a few days because of some clouds / thunderstorms near them... wtf
Originally Posted by vidivo
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