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1 yr later: Part-time affiliate hits 1k/day (26)

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Hello, I am happy to say for the first time in my AM career I have passed the 1k/day Profits.

BTW: I am the brother of http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...00-000-in-2015

Call me webdev jr.


I started AM last year around this time (April/2015). I had 0 background with marketing, design & IT related stuff.
In fact, it took me MONTHS to understand the basics like tracking, learn Photoshop, uploading landers etc.

June 11,15 (2 months from initial start) was my first day doing $10/day Revenue. LOL not a great start to my AM career.

For those of who wondering why I didn’t just join my brother on his campaigns...well I have no idea what he was doing and how he was doing it. I had nothing to add, so I just went on STM and did my own thing.

After that, there were a lot of ups and downs. In the last year or so, I have tested over +200 offers, 20+ traffic sources,
10 or so affiliates networks. And spent around 30-40K and probably brought back the same in Rev. So ya, I’ve tested alot, but always struggled to scale.

But I am happy to say, last month I re-covered all my losses.

It can definitely take months, years even, to start to make real money. Remember you’re competing with guys who have real business, more experience and are doing this full time.

Unfortunately I don't have any golden nuggets that already haven’t been covered in this forum. Here are some random thoughts.
If you must know, I am still a 1 man operation and have a full time job (nothing related to AM), which I don't plan to quit anytime soon.
Also, I spend about 1-2 hours and day on AM.

I have made so many mistakes and continue to do so, but that's ok and its part of learning. For example, Just last month i deposited $500 on a managed native platform and we ran about $200 and didn't see any good results. So I changed up my landers and game my mangers the link to my lander so he/she can approve them. But they thought these were the new campaign links, so ya $300 worth of traffic went to waste.
This was of course a miscommunication on my part, now I could fight this and complain, b&&ch and whine but honestly it will get me nowhere. I did ask if we can meet half way, I can deposit some money and the traffic source can match it etc, but they refused. This is just one of many examples I can share.

Now I don't let little things stress me out anymore, I look at the big picture. The funny this with AM is that problems never seem to have an end, you solve one and another comes up. It's a never ending cycle and something to need to accept.

Honestly I find in this industry its come down to relationships. Generally alot of people will help you in some way or form, but if you find someone (something) is just not working out for you, for example an AM, it better to just cut them out and move on as appose to continuing a bad relationship.

Because I live in Toronto, Canada, I generally like to work with networks in North America. Nothing against networks from elsewhere, but I find the communication due to time zone is easier on me.

I am humble to be making this much because I do realize all this can change in a heartbeat.
Tbh these days I am back to low-mid xxx/day but I now know once I see some traction on a source, I can scale again.

So ya, that’s my story, sometimes it can take as much as a yr or even longer but honestly if I can do it, anyone can. (I truly mean this)

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I guess that the days where you rake 10$ are the best moments. It's where you realize this could be scaled with bit more balls!
mid xxx a day for 1-2 h is pretty awesome, and each day of experience leads to to better knowledge and higher path.

How did you recoup the initial loss? was it new traffic source / advertising that made you hit the spot (i.e native), or a specific offer, niche?

Best of luck

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Nice!

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Congrats on your success!

Toronto represent.

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YES MAN! Thanks for sharing your success story, I feel really happy for you and about the fact that STM helped you to get where you are today! More power to action takers like you. You're another fine example of how far persistence and refusing to give up can lead any of us

Good luck for the future!

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Congratulations webdev jr on your success and sticking it out..did you always start with native or something else...? I am intrigued about whether you are now able to hit consistent 1k per day because you have built relationships with AMs and advertisers who give you great offers all the time or is it because now you have developed skills and learnings that you are able to leverage to make your campaigns profitable?? It will be great get your insights on this..

I have started AM 6 weeks ago and run a total of 2 campaigns on mobile app installs so far...with a total of 5 conversions and $80 on traffic so far....

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Yes, combination of traffic and offer(s). Now that I look back, I could have scaled couple of campaigns that I fell short on.


Thanks.
Great risk bring greater rewards. Don't be afraid to try new things. Use STM as a guide, but don't let it direct you to any particular niche or traffic source. You must create your own path. And for that you need to test.

I run some adult traffic and that is the traffic I started out with. That 10/day I talked about in my original post, was from an SOI adult dating offer.
After couple of months of running SOI/DOI, I took a risk and tried a $36 CPS , I did ~100/day profits for about 2 months!! It was the easiest money I ever made and I quickly realized that you never until your try.

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Thanks for the promot response webdev jr, actually I modified a question a bit just after you replied

I am intrigued about whether you are now able to hit consistent 1k/xxx per day because you have built relationships with AMs and advertisers who give you great offers all the time or is it because now you have developed skills and learnings that you are able to leverage to make your campaigns profitable?? It will be great get your insights on this..Thanks again

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Have I consistently hit 1/k a day? The answer is no. But if things continue to go this way, by the end of the month I should be in the low 1x,xxx profit for the month.

High volume get you better payouts, more caps, exclusive offers, auto approval accounts, multiple accounts…But you can always negotiate these without a single conversion.

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congratulations!! now scale it to mid x,xxx!!

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Sounds impressive man,
2 hours a day and one man show, I'm interested to see what will happened once you take it on full time job.

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1-2 hours work a day? Now that's impressive, imagine if you had more time to devote to AM. How is your brothers CPA offer doing?

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Congrats on your success!!!

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Congrats webdev jr.!!!

With only a few hours a day.. just imagine what you could attain with full time hours!

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Congrats on the breakthroughs and finding success. More importantly, congrats on not giving up and sticking with it for so long having never seeing much more than break even at best (from sounds of it). There's no secret sauce, nothing that can replace hustle and drive. Keep at it dude! WOoT!

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Echo that statement.

Looking forward to picking your brain May 6th @ the Drake

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GREAT PROGRESS! I was in the same boat. SHOUTOUT TO A FELLOW CANADIAN! i am in Toronto as well!

See the best thing about your story is you didnt give up and focused on longterms goals - which now is profitable. I find that is what is holding others back. No one wants to lose any money before making money.

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Congrats on your success.
Ever consider make your own account so we can better recognize you guys?

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Thanks webdev, you say if things continue to go this way ...could you please tell me if you have now found some patterns that can help you make about this much on an ongoing basis (or give you the confidence) or is it still very fickle in the sense that everything could fall tomorrow and it could drop to very low? I am just trying to ascertain how much of it is skill and the insights/data/patterns you have collected and how much of it is hit and try? Thx

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In other works...did I only get lucky?

This is a valid question and let me try my best to answer this, with examples.

The short answer is NO and here's why...

I use to think that its all about me bringing in conversions, but its a lot more that just that. This is a 2 way street where you MUST please the advertiser as well. Here is a prime example of me getting in trouble...http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ads-are-fraud!

This was adult SOI offer in a tier 2 country. I started the traffic and quickly (within an hour) realized this had huge potential because I was doing 100% ROI in that time. The payout was <$0.50 but still I started to do $500 a day/Rev. This was on Friday. So over the weekend all I did was increase bid and I did about 2K in 2.5 days with 1K profit. Come Monday, I was asked to pause. Come Tuesday, I was told my leads are fraud and advertiser won't pay. In the end I got my money, but this was a lesson learned. Just because your making money doesn't mean sh%t if the adv ain't happy.

Here are a few of my old posts....
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...obile-campaign

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...make-ppv-work!

^^^This campaign was good and now that I look back, I could made this profitable. I just didn't test enough, I was almost there.

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ng-with-voluum

^^^This is me trying to make the best of my traffic, trying to squeeze that 1-2 % traffic and make some extra revenue.

So as you can see over the course of year...I've continued to test many traffic sources, strategies, verticals, scripts, offers, geo etc

Honestly it's hard to do all this testing and NOT learn a few things along the way. But it also doesn't hurt to be lucky

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We're having an STM meetup in Toronto on May 6th - would love it if you and your brother could join us! For details and RSVP please see here:

http://meetups.stmforum.com/event/Toronto

Looking forward to meeting you guys!


Amy

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Thanks webdev...I started 2 months ago with mobile app installs....I am currently -99 % ROI haha...wonder how many heartbreaks and rollercoasters I'd have to go through to reach your level...by the way I remember hearing some advice a while ago about sticking to a couple of traffic sources and learning them really well...however it seems like you are suggesting to keep testing a number of different traffic sources?

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webdev - one more question to you - it will be great to hear your views on cloaking - do you need to do it?

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I never cloaked....yet.

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Thats awesome...getting those results without cloaking is truly remarkable

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Matuloo got it right. Your persistence and determination has led you to confirm what you could only merely believe at the time. Now, you "know" you can do it. You've passed that threshold of actualization.
You deserve it and more.
Keep rocking it webdev (jr).

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