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To Native or not to Native? That is the question... (6)
04-19-2016 05:57 PM
#1
sushiparlour (Member)
To Native or not to Native? That is the question...
Hi all,
Bit thinking of giving natives a go since I've been running pops+sweeps combo for a while and things have gotten pretty stagnant (and it seems a lot more competitive than when I first started 4 months back). At the moment I hover around breakeven to low $xx a day which honestly given the time I put in is not worthwhile (AM is a part time endeavour at the moment) but I would like to change that. So I want to see if mixing things up would give me a breakthrough and wanted to hear some thoughts?
Mainly my questions are:
- Is native something that would be advisable that is still fairly new to affiliate marketing since the adage is generally learn 1 vertical or learn 1 TS very well first and this appears to be going contrary to it (unless you advise me to run sweeps on native; but it doesn't seem as good a fit as other things).
- If so what is a good vertical to get into, should it be something I have an inherent edge on i.e. I have a finance background so pushing binary options or insurance might be easier to me than nutra.
- Lastly any advice on resources/info on native since even the forum posts here seem to be of a fairly low count.
Thanks,
SP
04-19-2016 06:10 PM
#2
thuglife (Member)
Get Adplexity Native and look at the landers, comes with a one month trial.
I don't think pushing an offer/vertical requires that you're passionate about it. You should just push whatever gives you the most ROI. Offers/campaigns die all the time so you need to be extremely adaptive vs following your passion.
- You do however need a relatively big budget to buy data. Maybe $3-5k.
- You'll also need to know how to cut off placements with bot traffic fast.
- Learning how to cloak will help, so you'll need to invest in a good cloaker too if you want to stay competitive. I use TrafficArmor.
Good luck. Native seems to be the new "sweeps on pop" this year thanks to STM.
04-19-2016 10:50 PM
#3
stitch (Member)

Originally Posted by
sushiparlour
Is native something that would be advisable that is still fairly new to affiliate marketing since the adage is generally learn 1 vertical or learn 1 TS very well first and this appears to be going contrary to it (unless you advise me to run sweeps on native; but it doesn't seem as good a fit as other things).
The biggest difference is that payouts are generally going to be larger and traffic more expensive - you had better have a decent budget.
You can spend $150 on a $1.50 sweepstake and have a reasonable idea of if it has potential. You can spend $2000 on a $40 native offer and still be wading through masses of shit.
04-20-2016 03:45 AM
#4
sushiparlour (Member)
Realistically what kind of budget would it take to find a winning native campaign? Does it take 2k just to test and assuming you don't find a winning one right away then it would be at around 6k to get a reasonable shot?
Imo I agree it seems like the next hot thing and could be me naively jumping in but again I also see a lot more barriers to entry in native vs pops/sweeps because of: higher budget requirement, less case study/follow along etc. etc.
04-20-2016 07:17 AM
#5
ty_c310 (Member)

Originally Posted by
sushiparlour
Realistically what kind of budget would it take to find a winning native campaign? Does it take 2k just to test and assuming you don't find a winning one right away then it would be at around 6k to get a reasonable shot?
Imo I agree it seems like the next hot thing and could be me naively jumping in but again I also see a lot more barriers to entry in native vs pops/sweeps because of: higher budget requirement, less case study/follow along etc. etc.
It depends on what you are trying to promote. If you're looking at a sale type of payout that involves a credit card, be prepared to realistically spend $5k min just to see if it has a chance, from there it might take double or more until you start seeing returns and profitability. Of course this also comes down to how well you optimize as well and everyone does it differently.
04-24-2016 05:16 AM
#6
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)
1.yes. its a good place to start. I believe it doesnt matter where you start, just as long as you start somewhere.
2.binary options is harder to run than basically anything, and def not n00bie friendly since the cpas are high, and its got an extremely bad rap. Insurance is a lower payout and an easier conversion.
3.i have some info on my email list. The basics are that i recommend using whitelists, blacklists, 3 different tiers for bids, talking to and sending *personalized* gifts to your ad network reps, and splittesting everything.
Hope that helps
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