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04-07-2016 02:22 PM #1 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)
How I Made $XXX,XXX Profit On FB Direct Linking (Blackhat But No Cloaking)

Some of you may already read some comments at the Facebook vs Pin Submit discussions about Facebook Advertising for VIP Response. I have been doing FB advertising (self-employed) for over 5 years now, mainly on insurances and finance. Facebook seems to be a tough b*tch when it comes to pin submits. However I would like you guys to show some insights on how to make good profit on FB with pin submits. Some luck is needed too by the way ;-)

Important notes v1.
– no cloaking involved
– no prelanders involved
– just direct linking (ad → click → campaign page)

So, what do we need to start;
– a FB account, warmed up and war ready!
– branded pin submit campaign, in my case mainly UK, IE and AU. For example Tesco or Marks & Spencer

Setting up the ad
Create a new Facebook fan-page, relevant to the brand. This part makes the ad thrustworthy and is key to make the campaign profitable. For example; TescoShopping. Could be risky yes, but very much needed.

First, I come up with a good title/header, around 7 words, to catch the attention of the consumer. For example; Why Not Compete For a €500 Tesco Voucher? It doesn't have to be agressive, just a plain simple header could do the job. Without much misleading the spam reports, bad comments etc will be less too, what keeps your ad healthy and profitable for a while.



Second, Google as much as possible images/photo's regarding Tesco (instore, shopping bags, front store etc). Trust me, even the dumbest looking images could have the highest CTR! Test these images all with the same line (maybe not the best way, but for sure the easiest way to see which images work best).

Third, come up with a good call to action, it's not needed to be agressive again. “Just Answer the Question” will do perfectly for example.
Last, use a visible url, something like; tesco-vouchers.co.uk/enter-here

Targeting
Let's not make this very hard; women 35+, who are interested in Tesco (similar brands)
Mobile newsfeed only.

Now your campaign is live, keep your ads clean from bad comments, block any “spam, cost, enter, subsciption” words at the FB page settings. Keep some doubting comments, to make it thrustworthy and not too one-sided.

And ofcourse I don't have to tell you to optimize on text/image/audience/targeting during the campaign to get the best CTR, lowest cpc and best ROI!

Some insights
– over 100% ROI on average
– CTR' of 7% on ads are reached, on broad audience (3 mill+)
– trying to find the right angle is sometimes easier than you think
– again, an image which doesn't attract you, might attract your potential audience (so not only test images which you “like”)

Hereby some stats+example, not sure if it's adding something to the story tho'.






credits to @stickupkid for this case.


04-07-2016 03:27 PM #2 dutchie (Member)

Nice work!


04-07-2016 08:20 PM #3 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Very insightful case study - thank you very much for the most generous share!


Amy


04-08-2016 12:24 AM #4 bobliu (Member)

Nicely done! Did you have a direct relationship with the advertiser on this one?


04-08-2016 02:20 AM #5 arsitek (Member)

try try.
tanks bro @gijsvipresponse


04-08-2016 03:17 AM #6 thuglife (Member)

What made you want to share this? Did the offer die out?

I see that you also promoted Boots/ASDA Pin Submit in the UK, JuicyWin, VIPwinning, UFX and some car accident injury claim offer.

Mind sharing if those performed for you?


04-08-2016 06:31 AM #7 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bobliu View Post
Nicely done! Did you have a direct relationship with the advertiser on this one?
That's correct. But it was direct linking with an (VIP RESPONSE) affiliate link.


04-08-2016 06:35 AM #8 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
What made you want to share this? Did the offer die out?

I see that you also promoted Boots/ASDA Pin Submit in the UK, JuicyWin, VIPwinning, UFX and some car accident injury claim offer.

Mind sharing if those performed for you?
The offer and other M&S offers definitely not die out! Different angles attract different consumers so there is plenty room to do more.
Boots, ASDA, ALDI, Tesco did all perform well, but somehow M&S stood out big!
UFX was a first test for me, but hard to convert without good prelander I think.


04-08-2016 12:29 PM #9 superp (Member)

How many accounts did you lose in total ?


04-08-2016 02:32 PM #10 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Zero, still rollin' on the same account (personal account). Fingers crossed tho' everyday!


04-08-2016 04:17 PM #11 webdev (Member)

Nice find. Do you own VIP RESPONSE? Do you own these offer too?


04-08-2016 07:20 PM #12 superp (Member)

you banked six figures with this offer with only 1 account ? You serious ?

I am unable to spend more than 1-2k with aldi offer... always get banned


04-09-2016 09:48 AM #13 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Not kiddin' at all. Only one account and still alive and kickin. It's my personal account, did a warm-up for 4 years on finance and insurances before I started doing pin submits last november full pull!


04-09-2016 09:49 AM #14 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by webdev View Post
Nice find. Do you own VIP RESPONSE? Do you own these offer too?
No, the offers are from advertisers, so using affiliate links.


04-09-2016 08:47 PM #15 andy2889 (Member)

showing datas and infos of a living and profitable campaign. You are generous just saying..


04-10-2016 09:23 AM #16 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

If I want to add something on a forum, I prefer to do it good. Maybe it inspires others too to do that on STM ;-)


04-11-2016 02:59 PM #17 anindya (Member)

Welldone!


04-12-2016 04:35 AM #18 andyman (Member)

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing, I agree very generous. Nice work


04-12-2016 06:38 AM #19 greenzone (Member)

Which network have the best PIN offers


04-12-2016 07:27 AM #20 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

There are several I think; F5, Mundo, Avazu and ofcourse VIP Response for example.


04-13-2016 10:01 PM #21 webdev (Member)

What was the conversion rate on this pin-submit offer?


04-14-2016 09:18 AM #22 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Between 5-10% in general.


04-14-2016 10:17 PM #23 dominaweb (Member)

just gave it a fast try on one account, for UK 10% ROI with low payout (6,5$), no optimization at the moment
good share


04-15-2016 07:13 AM #24 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dominaweb View Post
just gave it a fast try on one account, for UK 10% ROI with low payout (6,5$), no optimization at the moment
good share
Add me on skype; tim.vipresponse. Maybe I can help you out to level it up to 100%!


04-15-2016 11:20 AM #25 mrclifton_ (AMC Alumnus)

So this campaign works basically because Facebook haven't had a closer look at your campaign and realised it's a pin submit, which I guess is against the FB rules?


04-17-2016 11:28 AM #26 omrikos (Member)

When I used brand names in my ads on FB the account got banned really quickly

I think that the fact you warmed it up for 4 years might have helped out.

Nice share though, I might try again pin-subs on FB.


05-30-2016 11:10 PM #27 octomob (Member)

Does it still work?
I have a very good warmed account 5+ years old


05-31-2016 05:30 AM #28 fatih uzel (Member)

Great Share Tim Thanks I added you on Skype ( want to talk about something)


05-31-2016 01:07 PM #29 gijsvipresponse (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by octomob View Post
Does it still work?
I have a very good warmed account 5+ years old
Still alive and kickin'!


05-31-2016 01:53 PM #30 marketingidealab (Member)

wow nice..

can you explain "branded pin submit campaign" little better? how would I actually know which is branded?


01-10-2017 05:12 PM #31 rondellrandall (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
What made you want to share this? Did the offer die out?

I see that you also promoted Boots/ASDA Pin Submit in the UK, JuicyWin, VIPwinning, UFX and some car accident injury claim offer.

Mind sharing if those performed for you?
How did you find out all that info


03-03-2017 11:01 AM #32 biscolo92 (Member)

Hello there,

Thank you for the share.

Is it still working ?


03-15-2018 12:44 AM #33 daledd (Member)

Bump. Any updates to this method? Perhaps with some improvements it could still come out successful.


03-15-2018 06:43 AM #34 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Read my recent posts, links in the signature! Summarized; yes, it still works.


03-15-2018 08:38 PM #35 pavel_apostolov87 (Member)

Hey stickupkid
Thanks for the share mate, Exactly what i wanted to know! I have a lot of old FB accounts so this is exactly what i was looking for to test them on
Thanks once again!! Will update you with my success on this.


03-24-2018 11:59 AM #36 discodiscodisco (Member)

Hi stickupkid,

I want to test this out, do i need an account that has a decent amount of spend already? Whats the a good network for for these offers?


03-24-2018 12:08 PM #37 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by discodiscodisco View Post
Hi stickupkid,

I want to test this out, do i need an account that has a decent amount of spend already? Whats the a good network for for these offers?
Yeah, in general you need to have an account with some spend, the more the better ofcourse.
Try Advidi, VIP Response, Gothza, Clickdealer for example.


03-25-2018 11:22 AM #38 discodiscodisco (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
Yeah, in general you need to have an account with some spend, the more the better ofcourse.
Try Advidi, VIP Response, Gothza, Clickdealer for example.
Thanks.

If direct linking on Facebook, how do I prevent Facebook from blocking the Affiliate links in my ads. Is this something I need to do with Voluum?


03-26-2018 07:52 AM #39 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

I never used Voluum, so I don’t know. If a domain is flagged direct linking will not work, ask advertiser to put the offer on a new/fresh domain!


12-26-2019 01:41 AM #40 coldemailclosers (Member)

Is this info still relevant all these years later @stickupkid? Anything you'd tweak in 2019/2020?


12-26-2019 07:55 AM #41 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
How I Made $XXX,XXX Profit On FB Direct Linking (Blackhat But No Cloaking)

Quote Originally Posted by coldemailclosers View Post
Is this info still relevant all these years later @stickupkid? Anything you'd tweak in 2019/2020?
Yes I spread on more accounts and daily spend per account is lower.

Thereby I have to vary more and more with ads and prelanders.


02-08-2020 10:10 AM #42 pasavantlemariage (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
Yes I spread on more accounts and daily spend per account is lower.

Thereby I have to vary more and more with ads and prelanders.
Hello, what is your max daily spent per account? Thank you


02-08-2020 10:16 AM #43 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by pasavantlemariage View Post
Hello, what is your max daily spent per account? Thank you
Currently my guys do max 100 max spend per account.


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