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03-27-2016 03:44 AM #1 marcomx (Member)

Also I'm targeting women: 40-65+


03-27-2016 04:16 AM #2 lolzap (Member)

I would throw in an advertorial. Warm up dem clicks.


03-27-2016 05:41 AM #3 thuglife (Member)

No such thing as "white-hat" skin. You'll get banned just for focusing on body-parts.

There's only one offer that's killing it with VSL right now but only because the advertiser is the product owner themselves (beverlyhills-md crepe skin).

You should stop doing this, no way you can get decent ROI (or very very hard).

Why did you specifically pick this offer? Did you see other affiliates doing well with it? Any internal network stats?


03-27-2016 02:50 PM #4 marcomx (Member)

Hi thuglife,

Actually, that is offer that I'm running right now. I heard that is getting pretty good conversions in the US, but in the country that I'm running it right now I haven't made any conversions yet.

I would need to make some adjustments.

I'm running it directly to the sales page... so maybe that could be the problem.

Thanks


03-27-2016 04:59 PM #5 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by lolzap View Post
I would throw in an advertorial. Warm up dem clicks.
Hey lolzap,

Yes I think that I will be working on a landing page before sending them to the offer.

Thanks


03-27-2016 05:27 PM #6 marcomx (Member)

27-March-2016

Around $100 USD spent and no conversions so far.

I just changed my targeting to be more focused on what this kind of market will want... is more focused on skin care creams and all that kind of stuff. My potential audience reduced drastically from 1M to just 110,000.

Hope this change works to get at least 1 or 2 conversions and see what type of angle could work.

Also, I'm working right now on a landing page, I will place a retargeting pixel to start getting conversions.... that's the first step.


03-28-2016 05:15 AM #7 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

I would suggest spying on what beverly hills md is doing... they have tons of ads out there; they are one of the biggest advertisers on google in the us.

Having a lp, even if your linking to a vsl, is important. I give a free lander u can download/modify/use for this offer on my superaffiliatesystem.com site under the ready2launch area; its similar to the lander style lots off affs use for linking to vsl offers.

Again tho....look at what other affs are doing, identify trends, and try to test things that will do better.

Hope that helps.


03-28-2016 05:21 AM #8 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
There's only one offer that's killing it with VSL right now but only because the advertiser is the product owner themselves (beverlyhills-md crepe ski)
Lol. Ya thats the offer the dudes running

I still recommend landers tho, because it gives an extra, VERY important point around which to optimize both targeting, and ads.

Once you get your targeting and ads defined, then id start testing some directlinking again.

But seriously....look at what other people are currently doing to promote this, this offer is doing thousands of sales per day.


03-28-2016 06:01 AM #9 thuglife (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by marcomx View Post
27-March-2016

Around $100 USD spent and no conversions so far.

I just changed my targeting to be more focused on what this kind of market will want... is more focused on skin care creams and all that kind of stuff. My potential audience reduced drastically from 1M to just 110,000.

Hope this change works to get at least 1 or 2 conversions and see what type of angle could work.

Also, I'm working right now on a landing page, I will place a retargeting pixel to start getting conversions.... that's the first step.
In that case, here's something you can mimic:


Don't make your audience too narrow, it has to be at least 500k+ for something broad like this.
One thing you can try is to separate them by 5+ years gap.
35-39, 40-44 etc

Or you can go broad and use FB pixel to keep ROI.

Also, VSL's are so long that a prelander will just make CR worse. If you wanna use a prelander, pick a trial offer.
For landers, use makemassive.com to see what's doing well/popular, there are only 4-5 landers that EVERYONE use.
(people's magazine, shape's, fake mommy's blog).


03-28-2016 02:04 PM #10 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by johnaff View Post
I would suggest spying on what beverly hills md is doing... they have tons of ads out there; they are one of the biggest advertisers on google in the us.

Having a lp, even if your linking to a vsl, is important. I give a free lander u can download/modify/use for this offer on my superaffiliatesystem.com site under the ready2launch area; its similar to the lander style lots off affs use for linking to vsl offers.

Again tho....look at what other affs are doing, identify trends, and try to test things that will do better.

Hope that helps.
Hey man, thanks, what would you recommend in order to start spying this company: WRW? I also saw a tool called Adfox it's for Facebook spying.

Marco.


03-28-2016 02:12 PM #11 marcomx (Member)

Hey thuglife,

Thanks.

I was testing a landing page and I was getting a 40% CTR. I think that is a ver high number. What do you think?

I'm heading right now to makemassive.com and start spying a little bit.


03-28-2016 02:18 PM #12 marcomx (Member)

28-03-16

I'm pausing this campaign in order to make some important tweaks:

1.- Use a landing page that right now is getting 40% CTR (also place a pixel retargeting code there)
2.- Separate my targeting in groups of 5 years: 35-40, etc, etc.
3.- Spying on competition and see what's working and imitate them.

After doing all this I will relaunch the campaign, my goal: Getting at least one or two conversions to gather data and see what could work or not.


03-28-2016 03:36 PM #13 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
In that case, here's something you can mimic:


Don't make your audience too narrow, it has to be at least 500k+ for something broad like this.
One thing you can try is to separate them by 5+ years gap.
35-39, 40-44 etc

Or you can go broad and use FB pixel to keep ROI.

Also, VSL's are so long that a prelander will just make CR worse. If you wanna use a prelander, pick a trial offer.
For landers, use makemassive.com to see what's doing well/popular, there are only 4-5 landers that EVERYONE use.
(people's magazine, shape's, fake mommy's blog).
Thuglife,

What's the software that you're using to pull the ads that you just posted?

Thanks


03-28-2016 04:05 PM #14 vitalis (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by marcomx View Post
What's the software that you're using to pull the ads that you just posted?
adsvantage.net


03-29-2016 08:53 AM #15 thuglife (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by marcomx View Post
28-03-16

I'm pausing this campaign in order to make some important tweaks:

1.- Use a landing page that right now is getting 40% CTR (also place a pixel retargeting code there)
2.- Separate my targeting in groups of 5 years: 35-40, etc, etc.
3.- Spying on competition and see what's working and imitate them.

After doing all this I will relaunch the campaign, my goal: Getting at least one or two conversions to gather data and see what could work or not.
This one seems to be doing well, please update us if you see any conversion:


03-29-2016 09:35 AM #16 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

This lander has 40% CTR? Really?


03-29-2016 12:16 PM #17 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
This one seems to be doing well, please update us if you see any conversion:
dude don't out people's landers... I know people spy and rip and it's been ripped to shreds, but I know who created this and they wouldn't be happy to see it blasted on STM.... and I think it's actually against the Forum's rules to publicly out a lander that isn't yours.


03-29-2016 03:18 PM #18 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
This one seems to be doing well, please update us if you see any conversion:
Thanks, I will have to translate it and I will update you guys on how it performs.


03-29-2016 03:18 PM #19 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by acepowermarketing View Post
This lander has 40% CTR? Really?
No, the one that I was using is having 40% CTR, I don't know about this one in particular but I will keep you updated.


03-30-2016 05:36 AM #20 thuglife (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by marcomx View Post
Hey thuglife,

Thanks.

I was testing a landing page and I was getting a 40% CTR. I think that is a ver high number. What do you think?

I'm heading right now to makemassive.com and start spying a little bit.
40% CTR can mean a lot of things, if you see conversions it means you hit the right audience/demo.

Sometimes, it can also mean that you annoy them enough to click-through.
e.g. double popups + exit intent popup and they thought they going back to FB but it's an auto-redirect to the offer page etc

The key is for you to look at EPV (if you're using prelander) or EPC (direct linking) you're getting to see if CPC < EPV/EPC = ROI.


03-30-2016 09:04 PM #21 marcomx (Member)

30-03-2016

Bad news...

My facebook account was disabled... It seems that FB is getting pretty picky with the ads that you're running.

I sent an email explaining to them that my landing page, creatives, etc. Are within their guidelines... so, right now I'm crossing my fingers in order to get my FB ad account back.

Is there a way to recover my FB ad account? or should I focus on getting a new one, or just go with native ads?

I'm sad that I've got my FB account disabled, but at the same time I'm learning... so, actually this could be a good thing if I can run this offer somewhere else.

What do you guys recommend me?

Thanks,
Marco


03-30-2016 09:10 PM #22 marcomx (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thuglife View Post
40% CTR can mean a lot of things if you see conversions it means you hit the right audience/demo.

Sometimes, it can also mean that you annoy them enough to click-through.
e.g. double popups + exit intent popup and they thought they going back to FB but it's an auto-redirect to the offer page etc

The key is for you to look at EPV (if you're using pre lander) or EPC (direct linking) you're getting to see if CPC < EPV/EPC = ROI.
Yes, actually that lander didn't have any kind of exit popup or things like that... so, that is showing me that I'm focusing in the right audience.

The other thing is that I'm not getting conversions, it could be several things:

1.- The VSL is in English, with Spanish subtitles, could that affect conversions?
2.- Maybe my audience cannot afford to buy a $149USD skin care product. The offer is in a third world country... so that could be one of the reasons.
3.- Their sceptic about the product itself. And they need to make more research before they make a purchasing decision?

I really want to test the offer on Native ads, I think that it could work.

Any recommendation?

Thanks


04-01-2016 05:30 PM #23 thuglife (Member)

If you're doing Nutra, learning how to cloak is kind-of necessary (regardless of traffic source).

Another thing is, if you know something is working in a specific geo, do that geo too.

AM is an industry where being creative/innovative doesn't actually pay off.


04-15-2016 07:33 AM #24 gmjmarketing (Member)

hey bro, i actually run that offer using video to build a custom audience and the create a look a like on that, also im using besides Voluum adespresso will tell you what age complete watching the video and what not.
I also created a Lander with some content like john mention abobe.
thing is that i stop the offer bc i got another one profitable and im focusing on scaling that one right now.
but here is the lander if it helps.
http://gmjmarketing.com/wp/skin/
also the video i use was a testimonial of the product wich i edit and make it 30 sec long.
My ad copy was disapprove from the geco, but after chating with facebook they told me that the problem was the ad copy to strong, so i change it and i got approve.

Anyways let us know if you can make it profitable


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