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03-20-2016 07:57 AM
#1
ericnyc (Member)
RevContent websites -> widgets list and black list
Does anyone have a list linking RevContent widget ids to the actual websites?
Also, is anyone compiling a blacklist of RevContent widgets where there is too much bot traffic etc? I think there was a blacklist on STM for some mobile traffic sources.
03-20-2016 11:47 AM
#2
herefornow (Member)
Nobody should and will give you their blacklist man lol, it s very expensive to gather such data, do you want them also to give you their good placement then they can get new competitors and pay more cpc just for fun? You have to work hard and build your own...
03-20-2016 02:30 PM
#3
sebastian_r (Member)
I take a whitelist for bizzop, nutra and casino pls.
Thx
03-23-2016 07:11 AM
#4
ericnyc (Member)

Originally Posted by
herefornow
Nobody should and will give you their blacklist man lol, it s very expensive to gather such data, do you want them also to give you their good placement then they can get new competitors and pay more cpc just for fun? You have to work hard and build your own...
Wasnt there a go2mobi or decisive blacklist posted on stm sometime ago? why not rev
03-23-2016 09:10 AM
#5
Mr Green (Administrator)
Let me see if I can whip one up
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03-23-2016 09:19 AM
#6
dazed1 (Member)

Originally Posted by
herefornow
Nobody should and will give you their blacklist man lol, it s very expensive to gather such data, do you want them also to give you their good placement then they can get new competitors and pay more cpc just for fun? You have to work hard and build your own...
^ This
Also a blacklist on Revcontent is pretty useless for two reasons - firstly, there are countless new widget ID's added each day for domains which have poor quality traffic. Secondly, only your data can determine the good placements from the bad.. what works for one vertical or offer may not work for another.
03-23-2016 09:21 AM
#7
toneko (Member)
My initial test was quite a disaster with revcontent to be honest I didn't do any targeting , was set to auto refund and no daily budget .. Ended up blowing almost 4 k with like 500$ in revenue .. Most of the clicks came from 5 IPs - wrote a long letter to my AM at revcontent explaining the situation with screenshots from my tracker and screens provided by the affiliate network - though they didn't feel like being very enthusiastic about refunding or helping me out there. Just said : please exclude these widgets from your campaigns .. Never got back to me after that . Not very helpful to be honest or any sense of support. Might just ask for a new AM and test more 
03-23-2016 08:12 PM
#8
ericnyc (Member)
Im surprised they are not refunding. Makes for lots of bad press/image!
03-24-2016 10:29 PM
#9
theaffdoc (Member)
I run over $40K on Revcontent per month, here are my 2 cents about making Rev work for you:
- Make sure you stop & think about your offer before choosing targeting. Promoting anti-aging? Then you're best targets will likely be where most women 40+ hang out (i.e. Moms, Babies & Pets, Faith & Inspirational, Women's Lifestyle, Beauty, Celebrity & Gossip, etc. ) Running Biz-Op? Then think Wealth & Money, Editorial News, etc. Sure, women 40+ might be hanging out in the Sports & Men's Lifestyle...but only like 0.1% of the traffic on their targets are women looking for more rebill anti-aging BS
- There is TONS & TONS of bot traffic on Rev. Seriously, everyday there are new bot widget ID's, you need to stay vigilant and develop your OWN blacklist ALL THE DAMN TIME! You think the bot owners just set up like 1 widget ID and keep pumping it? They know us Affiliates block them, their traffic gets f'ed, and they launch more ID's & bots to screw you over. Stay Vigilant as all hell!
-You need to run volume to gather data, but be smart. What I like to do is run a test campaign to start for my offer on pre-selected targets that I think (see first point above) my demographic will be at. If they don't convert on those targets at -50% ROI or better, somethings wrong with my angles & offer. I'll keep working on those, but if I can't get to break even after a week...I forget that offer.
- Request an account rep ASAP! Call Rev, e-mail, whatever. Mine has been invaluable. Tell them you need frequent flyer miles on your black AMEX and can scale to $500k per month if their traffic converts....an AM will likely hit you in Skype.
Seriously - Rev works, I've had many many great days there. But, it's a cluster fuck. You gotta stay vigilant to make it work.
03-25-2016 01:45 AM
#10
ericnyc (Member)
Theaffdoc,
What do you think about their premium/branded sites? I started there and so far not much luck except expensive clicks.
03-25-2016 02:38 AM
#11
theaffdoc (Member)
I honestly have never used the brand targeting, I just do topic targeting...meaning to test out the brand targeting...haven't tried it yet tho...
03-25-2016 03:42 PM
#12
dragoshsd (Member)
They usually leak the site's URL in the referrer, have you checked that?
03-26-2016 03:20 AM
#13
ackbar22000 (Member)
@toneko Love the Fantomas Avatar, where you from ?
03-26-2016 03:27 PM
#14
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
ericnyc
Does anyone have a list linking RevContent widget ids to the actual websites?
Also, is anyone compiling a blacklist of RevContent widgets where there is too much bot traffic etc? I think there was a blacklist on STM for some mobile traffic sources.
Heres our revcontent widget blacklist we built. Most of these sites are simply spam sites so they should be blacklisted from all advertising, however we built this from running nutra. Hope that helps.
Blacklist
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3384
722
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133
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341
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03-26-2016 04:39 PM
#15
cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
theaffdoc
- There is TONS & TONS of bot traffic on Rev. Seriously, everyday there are new bot widget ID's, you need to stay vigilant and develop your OWN blacklist ALL THE DAMN TIME! You think the bot owners just set up like 1 widget ID and keep pumping it? They know us Affiliates block them, their traffic gets f'ed, and they launch more ID's & bots to screw you over. Stay Vigilant as all hell!
There definitely is a reason why certain traffic channels are easier to get approved for ...
03-26-2016 06:29 PM
#16
johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
There definitely is a reason why certain traffic channels are easier to get approved for ...
Yea agreed. What we did to identify some of the best sites internally was we compiled a list of sites using HIGH-QUALITY ad networks such as taboola, disqus, outbrain, and then cross referenced that list to see if any of those sites ALSO ran revcontent, or any of these other ad networks where approvals are easy.
The reason we did this is because ad networks like disqus rarely ever approve sites that contain bot traffic.....they are very vigilant in only accepting quality pubs to their network, and therefore quality, converting traffic.
03-26-2016 08:16 PM
#17
herefornow (Member)
Thx for the list wow. i guess some websites will see a big drop in their traffic this week end
03-27-2016 05:15 AM
#18
theaffdoc (Member)
@herefornow -- Yea probably, but they will probably create new widget ID's to fuck you over again by Monday. I see so many bots on Rev, new ones every day...it's nuts!
A great way to structure your campaigns is the following (at least it's been working very well for me):
1. Start with a RON campaign (run of network for you n00bs) for your offer(s)
2. You got to spend min. 10x offer payout/day to really gather decent data
3. Go in your tracker and see which widgets have spent 2x your offer w/ 0 conversions or 1x offer w/ 0% CTR on your lander and blacklist those bitches
4. Blacklist any targets w/ 2x payout w/ 0 conversions. They will never succeed long term..I mean, they might, but you'll have to work on them so hard...time is of the essence
4. Now, you have a RON blacklist campaign. Pick out widget ID's converting like 50% ROI and above w/ min. 3+ conversions and make a whitelist campaign...you need a minimum of 50 widgets to do this.
5. Your whitelist campaign should get like 50-100% ROI, blacklist RON like -25% to +50%
6. Any widgets that rock in your blacklist RON, add them to your whitelist campaign, bid very competitively in the whitelist campaign, and you'll drive more traffic by bidding in the $0.40 - $0.50 range.
That's it - get to work MFers!
03-29-2016 11:12 PM
#19
Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
theaffdoc
@herefornow -- Yea probably, but they will probably create new widget ID's to fuck you over again by Monday. I see so many bots on Rev, new ones every day...it's nuts!
A great way to structure your campaigns is the following (at least it's been working very well for me):
1. Start with a RON campaign (run of network for you n00bs) for your offer(s)
2. You got to spend min. 10x offer payout/day to really gather decent data
3. Go in your tracker and see which widgets have spent 2x your offer w/ 0 conversions or 1x offer w/ 0% CTR on your lander and blacklist those bitches
4. Blacklist any targets w/ 2x payout w/ 0 conversions. They will never succeed long term..I mean, they might, but you'll have to work on them so hard...time is of the essence
4. Now, you have a RON blacklist campaign. Pick out widget ID's converting like 50% ROI and above w/ min. 3+ conversions and make a whitelist campaign...you need a minimum of 50 widgets to do this.
5. Your whitelist campaign should get like 50-100% ROI, blacklist RON like -25% to +50%
6. Any widgets that rock in your blacklist RON, add them to your whitelist campaign, bid very competitively in the whitelist campaign, and you'll drive more traffic by bidding in the $0.40 - $0.50 range.
That's it - get to work MFers!
@theaffdoc: Great tips!
Next step, get a developer to check out
https://api.revcontent.io/docs/stats/ and build you something that reads data from your tracker and automates all of this.
07-05-2016 04:48 PM
#20
cpakiller87 (Member)
Is everything hat you been running on there whitehat? My account got banned recently
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