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Which verticals have the potential of $x'xxx / a day campaigns? (21)

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Hey moneystackers!

I read a lot about limitations of offers, networks and verticals. Not all verticals and offers will ever make $xx'xxx or even $x'xxx a day.

From CharlesNgo blog:

He mentions couple verticals, but from your experience, what are those niches, verticals or what type of offers that have or have had potential to be 4 or 5 digit a day campaigns?

Since I am in the mobile traffic, it would be great to hear some past offers (that are no longer running) that had this high profit potential in mobile. Or any other traffic type.

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Nutra binary casino dating .. think ever green

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Finance as well

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Antivirus
Male enhancement


Amy

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This is a threat with great infos on pretty much the same question:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...1-000-000-mark

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eCommerce is another niche that has huge potential. Promoting a big, well known brand with a good source and funnel can be very rewarding.

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I was thinking about this model well before I discovered Pop traffic and CPA, CPI networks.

I wanted to build landing pages and promote the shit out of them, but I did not know what traffic to send to those pages. I thought that the only way to do it is to build a blog or youtube channel and promote those offers through there. I guess I was totally wrong.

What traffic would work with that kind of offers? Display, Media buys, Social? I suppose it it mandatory to have a good high quality traffic. Right?

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These are too broad questions with no definitive answers. But the quote from Charles pretty much answers half of the question : "You can’t hit big numbers if your niche is too narrow."

I would add the second half - if the GEO/Demographics is too small - Obviously, its easier to scale in a big GEO like USA for example, pick an offer that targets Belize and you want be able to scale to xx.xxx of course. Same goes for the Demographics, if you pick an offer that only accepts male leads, aged between 25-30 ... its gonna be hard.

To really be able to hit $xx.xxx a day, you need an offer with super broad appeal.

But, since you are just starting, I dont think you should really solve this kind of problem now
You might want to read this : http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...table-XX-first!

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Sure thing, but this is not my first "business", I have some experience in starting something and I know how things generally work. Sure I have to start with xx per day, and thats exactly where I am headed, but to ever reach any desired goal we have to keep our eye on the prize. I am not "dreaming" about big things. I am just being calculated with my choices and actions. And thats what I am doing - learning as much as I can about this industry, to have the "bigger picture" in my mind.

Thank you very much for helping me!

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Well, for this niche I would say Social and Search. If its a very well known brand you can go with PPV as well. The quality is of course important but if its a CPS offer then if its not high quality then there will be no sale and if there isnt a sale then there isnt a conversion. What I mean is that if the quality isnt good then you will probably wouldnt get conversions in the first place (its also possible you will get leads but they will be cancelled by the users in the future and so the quality isnt good).

Bottom line is - High quality is always important :-)

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Every vertical has the potential to get to $1,000+ a day in revenues IF you have the right publisher/traffic source for it.
Of course some verticals are easier than others but it basically all comes down to finding the right traffic source for each offer.

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Let's all look at the Flashlight campaign that everyone is talking about. You have guys doing at least 20K/day+ on it. You target the 'survivalist' man living in the southern US states, that thinks Obama is going to take his guns, with a lander angle of: this new 'Military Grade' Flashlight is what every dude needs to pretend to be a Marine or whatever HOORAH HOORAH, news article lander . and that tiny niche of M/40+/Republicans can bring you 20K days, how many ppl is that? So what if you opened that up, and targeted other Demos. Say the Young Female Uni Student or Young Professional, whose biggest fear is being Raped in the dark...and you offer them the best, Brightes Flashlight that is heavy as well, and can be used to hit someone that is attacking you. And all of a sudden you have another 20K/day vertical...I should roll this into a Native Ads Follow Along, cuz that young female demo is exactly who goes on all of the Viral sites, ie. a massive segment in Native Ads platforms that you can target and get huge volume that should convert because you are targeting their fears. you offer them a cheap $56 weapon essentially, and young females are BUYING A TON through ecommerce right now. But what sites are on Native? Diet which most 20 somethings don't have to worry about yet. Anti-aging for old people. But nothing for that 20something that just got a credit card and is spending cash on stupid shit on the internet.

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Fraser that makes so much sense! I would love to see you start a native follow-along on that - that would benefit so many people - myself included!



Amy

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Nice one Fraser!

The flashlight at first I was like "why is that such a strong offer?" but reading your post everyone can understand why its so popular and such a money maker.

So think about angles and even something not so easy like selling a flashlight online can suddenly become a XXXX$ per day campaign (and more).

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Make sure you are testing your offers on serval traffic sources.

Not all offers perform well on all traffic sources!

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You can make 4/5 figures on AV Pins or on Dating.

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Hi Nomeus,


Based on our experience, I know we have some affiliates that are making 4 digits on a daily basis on Adult VOD, Sweeps and AV.

Not sure about dating, though: as most of the offers are on a PPL basis, it's tough to get big numbers while providing enough quality to the advertisers/network.

Of course your ability to earn big also depends of many different factors such as traffic source or landers.

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Of course there are verticals its "easier" to get to 4 digits per day with (like pin submits) but its possible with all sorts of verticals. If you have the right traffic source and able to mach it to a good offer (good = converting and enough caps/budget from the network/advertiser) then the vertical isnt really important. You have affiliates doing 4 digits with mobile apps, with games, with pin submits, sweepstakes, health, eCommerce, dating...

I find it more difficult to think of a vertical that cant pull a 4 digits per day than 1 that can.

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A ton of great insight here!

I think the question is a little more nuanced. Do you want a campaign that can do $xx,xxx for a week and then the offer goes down/traffic source kicks you? Or do you want a steady, consistent $xx,xxx/day for a long time? (I'm assuming the latter in most cases but you'd be surprised!)

In that case, you want to go with evergreens like iAmAttila said - stuff that people will always want (or even need):

Nutra/Brain/Male enhancement - people will always want to lose weight, build muscle, be smarter, be larger - I like to think of these as the 'self improvement' verticals.
Dating/adult - people don't want to be alone and those who are alone don't want to feel lonely - 'Partner Verticals'
eCommerce was mentioned a bunch and this one is exploding - we live in an ever increasingly consumeristic world and these tools help people get the stuff they want/need
Finance helps people who got carried away on eCommerce sights (Jk) but people will always have money problems or always look for a solution to get to the next level of income/lifestyle - these products offer that solution

long story short: find out what people need - what they'll always need - find an untapped or underutilized angle or niche within those markets; test, perfect, and scale!

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As mentioned every vertical has potential to make you "$x'xxx / a day ". What are you knowledgeable in? Most times knowing your product or service or having experience with it helps when promoting it. Blindly promoting something and not knowing anything about it can be hard. In my personal opinion some top verticals you can promote would be market research, health, bizz ops and sweeps.

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What topics do people turn to the internet for, before a friend - What topics are fairly personal???

Health - People ALWAYS search the internet before going to the doctor or talking to their friends about hemorrhoids or obesity
Finance - No one talks about their debt, and investors want "underground" but trustworthy DD. They use the internet. People don't trust their brokers, and nowadays don't need their brokers
Dating - There's a high level of emotion and impulse tied to "love"/sex.
Adult - Similar to health.
Survival/Political - People want their controversial beliefs to be affirmed. The people who buy "The End of America" already know something about corrupt economics - they already believe the economy is doomed. Obama ads sell the aforementioned flashlight - to people who already kind of think they have to protect themselves from Obama in some way... Fear is one of the two best emotional triggers.

Just my two cents, but those are the niches that have always done well, and will probably always do well. Everything else is just really good marketing.

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