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Day to Day Affiliate Marketing Numbers (13)

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Hi,

I am curious about how other affiliates are working in their day to day lives. I am focusing on people working by themselves, not people who already have a team and can outsource their time. For me, it takes a lot of time to setup one campaign and in most of the cases seeing it died in the next 2-3 days.

Here are some questions that came into my mind:

- How many full campaigns do you launch per day (including researching, banners, landers, angles, tracking, offers, traffic sources)?

- How long does it take for you to setup a full campaign in terms of hours?

- How many campaigns do you have running simultaneously right now?

- How much time do you spend optimizing each campaign per day?

- Do you use some kind of technique to launch fast (MVP), validate and see what works (for example, image landing pages instead of HTML/CSS/JS)?

- How many campaigns lost you money? break even? profit? (let's say from a total of 10 campaigns)

Really interested about the results of these questions

Thanks

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Any comments on this? I think I launch less campaigns that I am supposed to but it takes me a lot of time. On average around 6 hours between researching, designing banners, coding landers, scripts, thinking about angles, setting up the tracker, picking up the offers in the CPA network, setting up the traffic source etc. and finally just 1/10 of them work (in my case).

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I find its a lot quicker to launch multiple camps at the same time instead of one at a time.. try to do 5 or so at once.. it takes the same time as doing a couple one at a time.

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That's if they share things in common, but usually you will need to create specific banners, landers, tracker setup, offers for each campaign.

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Hey ironbull,

The more time you spend in this industry, the quicker you’re going to get in launching campaigns. Depending on what traffic source you’re promoting your time spent/campaign will greatly differ.

Eg, I can spend an hour designing a Teespring campaign, then the next 20 minutes to design 5 variations of it that will make 6 total campaigns.

I can spend 5-10 minutes setting up a ppcall campaign on adwords since the LPs are quite generic with just the number and a bit of text being the difference.

I can spend 10 - 30 minutes setting up a PPV campaign. It doesn’t take long to scrape some test targets, modify an old lander and set up a campaign.

As you find out what works and what doesn’t you’ll be left with a handful of landers/designs you will use to test.

Also, since you’re in test mode don’t try make everything perfect. The first goal of every campaign is to search for life. Is there conversions. Once that’s a tick, you can start implementing a bunch of other things.

Eg, for Teespring campaigns,

I don’t set up a FB page for every niche
I don’t set up a retargeting pixel
I don’t even set up a conversion pixel
I only select 20k worth of audience since I’m only testing $30 worth of traffic. Why add 1mill audience when the average affiliate has a small % success ratio?

This way I save a lot of time and can put out more camps.

Like I said, you’ll get faster with practice.

I launch 5-15 camps/angles a day. I’d test more if I had a 1k/day+ campaign
I have about 5 camps in test mode right now which is quite low. Ideally I’d like at least 10.

I don’t know about success ratios for others. Mine is really really really low. I’ll test 100 camps and be overjoyed if one is profitable. I’m not looking for small $20/day camps, I’m looking for minimum $100/day. I’ve gone over 100 campaigns finding no profitable campaigns. Sometimes, I’ll find 5 profitable campaigns in a row. It’s still worth it though. The unicorns pay you back 100 fold

If you want to know how many campaigns lost me money. Well over 1,000. Probably closer to 2,000

I know this all might sound intimidating but it's my reality and is actually quite normal. It's all part of the business we're in.

Cheers

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Hey @mateen thanks for your reply.

I am curious about this statement: "As you find out what works and what doesn’t you’ll be left with a handful of landers/designs you will use to test"

In this industry where everyone is spying I feel that landers/design don't last really long. They get burned pretty fast. I am talking about 1 month or so. Don't you think you need to come up always with new things and not use the old stuff that has already being viewed by a lot of people?

But I agree with you in the fact that it depends the type of campaign you are launching and the offer. Higher payouts usually require more work in terms of researching angles and designing the landing pages. In my particular case, I am 100% in Mobile, so when I launch, at least I am launching with 3 Angles/Landers completely different one to another.

So if you are launching 5 to 15 campaigns a day and you have just 5 live right now, what does that mean? You pause almost all the campaigns that are not working the first day?

Any more opinions from other members of the forum?

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Copy 1:1 whats out there to see if you get any traction, if yes and necessary you can start to improve upon then. A single camp shouldn't take more than 30 min to launch if you already know the traffic source and vertical. No need to invent the wheel new every time, especially if you don't know if an offer is an winner.

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Would you recommend to test the offer at first directly without a landing page? or that is not a good indicator whether the offer would convert or no?

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Direct link never works (99%). If I know the vertical and traffic source I can spot the best 2-3 landers within an minute on Adplexity. I download them, change the links, and run a split test on 1-3 traffic sources. If I see traction I choose the lander with the best results and improve upon that. If I don't see traction I move on. In a new vertical the initial number of landers is higher.

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Gotcha! That makes total sense to me. Usually where I spend more time is on the copy, optimizing images, cleaning the code, tweaking the LP, setting up JS alerts etc.

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Hey Ironbull, I was in the same position as you (spending hours to setup a camp or two) in the beginning but through trial and error found that the approach sebastian_r mentioned is the way to go so you can get some data pretty quickly. Research, Rip/strip/tweak landers from Adplexity or your favorite spy tool, and setup the camps in your tracker and traffic source. Once that first batch has been setup and the campaign is running, you can start to brainstorm a list of the improvements you might make so that you have a start once you have some data to decide on. Good luck.

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Though an absolute beginner to this type of marketing i'm already finding myself optimising the launch process somewhat.

I was spending days coding landers from scratch, bespoke to each offer etc.

I've now compiled what I believe to be the best ones into a launch folder which I can now duplicate for each campaign, change the copy and upload in one go.

It's still a days work, which for me takes 2-3 days as i'm juggling my other IM work and an 18 month old that refuses to sleep!

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Thanks for that reply, it was really useful. Should I care about speed/landing page size and custom domains at first (running 100% mobile)?

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