Buying co-reg emails to grow list (11)
How do emails purchased from co-reg providers perform? I know it depends on the provider, but many can segment by category - mostly biz-op or make money online. Any recommendations on who's the best in the business to buy from?
Izzy one just does not buy co-reg load em into an AR and email. Most AR's will ban you. If you use self hosted you dome will be rocked first email. I have been and I am in this game and YES there is a way. Yet it is out of reach for most people. The problem is with co-reg is YOU WILL have a high bounce rate no matter what. I can give you the premise.
Find a way to pump out an email to the co-regs rather IP churning or smtp churning. It is expensive but probably less so than building from scratch. Email them to get on your legit list at any AR so you have all opt-in data at the legit service providers service. (Get response - Aweber) Trick I noticed with GR and this is a secret that I am going to share with you follow - ups do not really trigger there system excessive broadcast do. Even when I am getting high bounce rates I can still stay under the radar just by only using follow ups. This is no guarantee as even like this I HAVE lost accounts but it is a lot less than sending out broadcasts everyday.
As for expert I am not an expert but me and my few friends a good chunk of all solo ad traffic comes from us. We have been in this business even when this business was an infant. I myself send out between 3k to 5k clicks per day all via my special system.
Sorry think I made that sound complicated than it really is.
Co-reg list -> Server IP rotation -> Legit service
You can skip the last step but for me it makes it easier to keep track. All emails for clients go out from the legit service.
As for customers I have a few that buy out my inventory. I keep a low key because the industry is full of snakes starting wars out of jealousy. I got tired of fighting wars and defending myself against lies. It is not worth the stress.
Another tip is stock up on domains I have 500 myself all just for mailing. As they will get smacked by gmail and ymail. I use one and then next mailing use another. Keep in rotation like that.
Word of advice ALWAYS BE MAILING.
Hope all that helps.
Awesome! Thanks Christopherh. I appreciate your feedback and advice.
Just to confirm we're talking about the same source of emails, I was looking at these providers. Do these need to be treated with the same caution?
http://multiplestreammktg.com/advert...eneration.html
http://www.simplerleads.com/
I must admit; the more I've been researching, learning and doing email, the more I realise that there is so much more to it!
The first one looks like it is legit co-reg but yes you will have that problem.There is no way around it and companies are toughing up. The whole internet in the emailing scape has become VERY anti-marketing.
Simplerleads I am almost willing to bet they bought a feed. They most likely ought a feed scrub to make sure there is no bounces but you will still get bounces and a pretty high amount even after scrubbed.
On both you will get an abnormal high spam complaint ratio which is the number one cause of ip's being burned and AR accounts being shut down. You will need a fair amount of IPs in constant rotation. I know you can find people who can do this for you. DO NOT use a mainstream service you will be banned. Hire someone to set you up.
Oh and the pricing is retarded. You can buy a feed yourself and self scrub and get it for 1k times more for less. Most feeders are a few thousand leads a day and about 250 to 500 a month more if you go to a middle man.
For example when I was selling bulk leads I would sell 10k for 500.00 put that into perspective. Yes in the MMO niche too.
Interesting. Where would I find other feeds that are cheaper? I've got another 5 suppliers I've found, most are cheaper, way cheaper , but they seem too good to be true.
Originally Posted by izzy
Take me for example.
A feed I got access to I could get about 4 to 10k leads a day(depends on how leads went that day). I would sell 10k leads for 500.00 my cost for the month was 500.00. I sell 10k boom everything else from then on out was pure profit. If I was from an emerging economy and not so greedy I could have easily sold them for 100 per 10k but to me that was just insane and I would not do that at all. Noooo. Though some might. Depends on what kind of profit margin the seller wants.
Some facts about lead feeds. They are usually sold to a LOT of lead brokers and sellers and some emailers. You get high bounce and high spam complaint but you can also make a lot of money. I had leads three months back I was a little dry some bad days and what not went back and emailed em again as I usually only email a list one day and then if they did not get on my AR screw em. So I decided wonder what would happen iffff. I went back emailed them a CPA offer after sitting cold for three months and low and behold I still made money. Grant you it was not alot. It was enough to tell me if I just wanted to email out offers that alone would pay for the feed.
So there ya have it in a nut shell. Cheap does not always mean bad quality it is sometimes the same quality and same product but someone is willing to sell it at a lower cost due to the fact they just want to make a few dollars to pay bills. BTW lol really should not be giving out these secrets.
$500 p/m for 4-10k leads per day is insanely cheap. That's not what I'm after.
Izzy, there are alternatives...my company operates a Coreg path across US, UK and AU geos.
Each opt in is in response to your custom advert (text and banner - incorporate your brand to minimise complaints).
Leads would need to specifically opt in to your advert.
The data is verified in terms of brite verifying email, HLR mobile if you require and postal validation.
Volume will be much lower than the feeds mentioned above. Quality play rather than churning cheap data.
You will still need to manage your flow very carefully to stay within a premium ESP's complaint rate limit, and there's a big learning curve to go through on that side of things.
Drop me a PM if you want more detail.
Originally Posted by izzy
Hey I am not here to be a business coach just saying use your head and get that stinking thinking out the way or else you will lose more money than you gain. Just think on what I said and look at your response. I hate to say it but my mind is straight up blown.
All good Christopherh. Thanks for you input.
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