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01-30-2016 09:57 PM
#1
hangman (Member)
Faster Way to Hide/Blank Referrer [Help]
Hey,
So I have been using both Voluum and Adsbrige tracker and I have been using there "Hide referrer" option, as well as there "meta refresh options".
Both platforms work in terms of hiding the referrer and blanking it and what not, even changing it to a custom domain.
My question is... What can I use or do to speedup the process.
It seems that whenever "Hide Referrer" is enabled on both Voluum and Adsbridge...the loading of the page is slow to the point where I am concerned enough to make a thread about it and seek out alternatives.
Is there a tracker I can use, or a tracker I can host so that I can speed up the whole "Hide referrer" Process?
At the moment, it is taking entirely way to long from when you click the link, until when the final destination pops up.
Is there a way to setup things so that this process becomes more instant, instead of several seconds?
I'm willing to switch to whatever tracker does this best..whether it be self hosted or web based. Or If there is a way to use it with a custom domain that speeds up the process, please let me know. I am hating the length of time it takes for the whole "Hide referrer" process to complete.
Thanks for any feedback/suggestions.
01-31-2016 01:59 AM
#2
ThrvTrkr (Member)
Hi there,
I believe Thrive's Cloud Service has the solution for you.
We are the best at hiding referrers and keeping the speeds fast. We can help you test it and show you the speeds via Pingdom.
If it doesn't work, we'll refund. Please contact our support at support@ipyxel.com and ask to start on Cloud Service if you're willing to give it a go. Just say your main objective is to blank referrers while maintaining fast speeds, and our guys will know what to do.
Thanks!
Tom
02-01-2016 03:35 AM
#3
northernlights (Member)
Not trying to be a dick but replying "we have the speediest solution" and posting an ad for your own product with 0 information gets a bit annoying. Why Thrive's redirects are better than Voluum's or Adsbridge's?
02-01-2016 06:14 AM
#4
ThrvTrkr (Member)

Originally Posted by
northernlights
Not trying to be a dick but replying "we have the speediest solution" and posting an ad for your own product with 0 information gets a bit annoying. Why Thrive's redirects are better than
Voluum's or
Adsbridge's?
Hi there, I'm sorry you feel I put up an ad. I merely tried to fulfill the OP's request as we have the solution he asked for. If the OP or any mods feel I have overstepped, I'm happy to delete the post.
I would prefer not to reveal exactly how we do everything in terms of when I know we have a competitive advantage on something. I hope you can understand that as you would likely want to keep details of your competitive advantage to a minimal as well.
In this case, it needs specific testing on a case-by-case, but we don't require a double meta redirect to blank referrer. As I mentioned, we're willing to offer a refund if it doesn't work within a week.
Thanks,
Tom
02-01-2016 07:05 AM
#5
dlauer (Member)
Well, let's be clear without trying to sell a product;
Double meta refresh is a good example, it works on MSIE. Through other engines, redirecting through HTTPS works. Linking to a page that has an inline frame page that "clicks" and sets "window.top" will result in some browsers "spoofing" the referrer to the `iframe`'s location. Detect which browser is being used and use the appropriate method for that browser.
02-02-2016 04:53 AM
#6
northernlights (Member)

Originally Posted by
ipyxel
I would prefer not to reveal exactly how we do everything in terms of when I know we have a competitive advantage on something. I hope you can understand that as you would likely want to keep details of your competitive advantage to a minimal as well.
Personally I'm not in the market of buying something that the owner refuses to explain how it works. Not because I don't believe it doesn't work but because i can't verify it does. Tech behind redirects, hiding referrers, etc. is super simple so it's not a competitive edge by any means. I know this can sound a bit harsh but that's not my intention. To me it looks like you think people are buying tech from you and hiding "your magic" is somehow a good thing when people here are actually buying an outsourced service. Currently what your refusal to explain the tech did was that now my perception of
Thrive's value is that "it might work and I can get my money back if it doesn't" instead of "holy shit that's awesome tracker made by a team that actually knows their stuff". Guess how excited I am to spend (waste) a week testing out a new tracker and possibly passing referrers because it may or may not work for me - I can't even check this on my own beforehand because I don't know how exactly it works...
02-02-2016 07:29 AM
#7
ThrvTrkr (Member)

Originally Posted by
northernlights
Personally I'm not in the market of buying something that the owner refuses to explain how it works. Not because I don't believe it doesn't work but because i can't verify it does. Tech behind redirects, hiding referrers, etc. is super simple so it's not a competitive edge by any means. I know this can sound a bit harsh but that's not my intention. To me it looks like you think people are buying tech from you and hiding "your magic" is somehow a good thing when people here are actually buying an outsourced service. Currently what your refusal to explain the tech did was that now my perception of
Thrive's value is that "it might work and I can get my money back if it doesn't" instead of "holy shit that's awesome tracker made by a team that actually knows their stuff". Guess how excited I am to spend (waste) a week testing out a new tracker and possibly passing referrers because it may or may not work for me - I can't even check this on my own beforehand because I don't know how exactly it works...
We are happy to share with you how it works, just not on a forum thread everyone can see when it's not something that works in 100% of all scenarios and when I don't have enough data points to make a blanket claim that it works in all cases. I have had my fair share of sharing and then getting trolled and/or straight up proven wrong, so quite honestly, I am "scared" to just always share what's on my mind. Please contact me or support directly if you are interested in solving your problem and we'll be more than happy to dig into your specific use case. If you speak to anyone who has had experience with our support, I think they'd tell you we dig deep and cater to you specifically.
My response was to a specific person asking a question for which I thought we had a solution for. It's not more malicious than that. I offered a potential solution and asked to get in touch. If it doesn't work, we'll refund fees.
I can't make any claims right now simply because the claims do not apply to every imaginable situation, and I've become hesitant based on experience.
02-02-2016 03:04 PM
#8
shakedown (Member)
When I tried Thrive a few months ago it didn't have anything better than DMR to blank referrers. It had a bunch of other methods like php redirect that all failed to blank the referrer at all. In my tests, it wasn't any better at blanking referrers than Voluum. It was a cool enough tracker, just wanted to share my experience with the referrer blanking part.
That being said, there is a good post about this from a couple of months ago that gives some good solutions. I would search for that post.
02-02-2016 06:34 PM
#9
ThrvTrkr (Member)

Originally Posted by
shakedown
When I tried
Thrive a few months ago it didn't have anything better than DMR to blank referrers. It had a bunch of other methods like php redirect that all failed to blank the referrer at all. In my tests, it wasn't any better at blanking referrers than
Voluum. It was a cool enough tracker, just wanted to share my experience with the referrer blanking part.
That being said, there is a good post about this from a couple of months ago that gives some good solutions. I would search for that post.
We've added improvements since a couple months ago
We are continuously growing and improving product. It won't stay static.
02-04-2016 12:04 AM
#10
Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)
Since we are 100% open source, I can talk publicly about here's how we blank referrers (plus you can mod the system to your needs)
We still use DMR, but last year we added the referrer policy meta tag to our redirect pages. This ensures that there is 100% no leakage when using modern browsers
https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-refe...-delivery-meta
Here's a list of all browsers that it currently works on
http://caniuse.com/#feat=referrer-policy
We are not 100% comfortable with removing the second Meta refresh at the moment, but if you wanted a faster redirect, that's something you could eliminate.
Also If you have ssl, you can do the http->https switch
We will add these as built in options in the future, but we have a few other high priority features we are working on
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