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09-21-2011 04:51 AM #1 liane (Member)
Dear Coreg: I hate you.

Seriously, what's wrong with me?

I spent 2 hours today reading every single coreg post on this site twice.
Watched the coreg webinar.
Downloaded the slides and went through them twice.
Downloaded all the sample LPs provided by all the cool people here.
Read through most of the .php & supporting files...
Read my GameTheory integration doc about 5 times.
Uploaded sample pages to my host to "Play" with them.

And I STILL can't wrap my head around it.

Let's see...can someone just give me some quick "coreg for dummies" feedback?

I'm not looking for all that fancy PHP that's all over the forum. I can figure that out once I understand the flow.

I'm looking for "here how it works, dummy, and here are your choices, and here's why you should pick this choice over that one."

I'm especially confused by:

1) multiple landers before the iframe - why?
2) an offer after the iframe - it must be magic!
3) building a list vs. not building one
4) in CPV Lab, how would you set up the simplest possible coreg path - vs. the most complicated one (yes, I read shanktank's thread about 5 times - seriously). No code here please.
5) Bbrock's flow collected an email...then name, email, phone (why didn't he just push the phone # over to the next page?)...then went to the coreg path that verified the # again (why not auto-populate?)...

So...yeah...feels like my head is going to explode. Just need some clarity.


09-21-2011 04:56 AM #2 d3so (Member)

I understand how you feel which is why I have yet to touch coreg.

We a need a layman version of Coreg for Dummies.


09-21-2011 04:56 AM #3 matthew ny (Member)

Liane, I feel the same way. I try to understand it but it still is a lot to wrap my head around. Maybe it's a good thing I don't understand it. I should be focusing much more on starting my world in PoF.

What I have noticed about Coreg is that it requires da big bux, which I dont have. Yet. So I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out.

Good luck though! Hopefully someone can say what Coreg is in layman's terms for people like myself.


09-21-2011 05:22 AM #4 vidivo (Member)

Bbrocks guide helped me do it. Worked perfectly and yes it even pre populates it with silverpath.. spent a day on it though analayzing the code and figuring it out.. worht it!


09-21-2011 05:42 AM #5 m0thm4n (Member)

I feel like bbrock's guide was pretty good. I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about how many landing pages you need before the collection form. Play around with it and keep it simple.

Perhaps you should post in that free landing page optimisation thread?

Not having seen your landing page, but knowing that you're trying to promote credit reports, perhaps you should review the content on your landing page.

Work it from a fear angle. To most people, their credit rating is a scary thing that isn't easily visible. Ask the question "can you be sure of getting credit when you most need it?" Perhaps something like that might work.


09-21-2011 05:50 AM #6 liane (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by m0thm4n View Post
Not having seen your landing page, but knowing that you're trying to promote credit reports, perhaps you should review the content on your landing page.

Work it from a fear angle. To most people, their credit rating is a scary thing that isn't easily visible. Ask the question "can you be sure of getting credit when you most need it?" Perhaps something like that might work.
Ah, my confusion with coreg is not related to my financial follow-along. But I always, always appreciate any help with financial. Your headline is officially in my to-try-next LP swipe.


09-21-2011 06:52 AM #7 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

You read my mind. I'm still stuck with passing a subid to cpvlab =(


09-21-2011 07:02 AM #8 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

Just simply think the whole point is to get a number for the fat payout. To do that you need to get the number to prepopulate when they get to the path - that's why you'll need a number inputted in advance. So before the path what we all are doing is probably the best known way to make sense for the visitor to input a number and their other info. The bait is the prize thus why they get the prize at the end after they give us info and go thru the path offers. Oh and why we need GT or Silverpath? They change the offers / manage them so we don't. Supposedly payout is better for us since we get a percentage. So far I haven't seen any offer changes / swaps.

I too read the coreg threads over and over as well. I printed it out and still looking at it. Very detailed - good stuff.


09-21-2011 07:45 AM #9 tap1on (Member)

I haven't really done any co-reg but can help you with some of the questions you have.
1) multiple landers before the iframe - why?
It's easier for a user to enter their email than email, name, phone, zip etc. So if they only fill out the mail atleast you got their email so you can advertise to them later on.

2) an offer after the iframe - it must be magic!
The offer after the iframe is really simple. You just add a variable to the iframe url. ex: http://www.silverpathurl.com/?number...jk@sekfjh.com&exit_url=http://www.emailsubmitoffer.com/?affid=234234
When the user follows the path they will end up at the offer page afterwards.

3) building a list vs. not building one
Always build list, simple as that. What would you like:
a) get commission
b) get commission + their details to earn more


I hope this make some sense


09-21-2011 01:40 PM #10 illya (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tap1on View Post
I haven't really done any co-reg but can help you with some of the questions you have.
1) multiple landers before the iframe - why?
It's easier for a user to enter their email than email, name, phone, zip etc. So if they only fill out the mail atleast you got their email so you can advertise to them later on.
Another forum where the poster's name rhymes with truck has a good post where he shows a survey site using coreg. This survey co. only grabs the gender and email on the first page, BUT then gathers more data on the followup page. Then they roll through the path repopping the data.


09-21-2011 04:20 PM #11 liane (Member)

@tap1on, what you say makes a lot of sense. I think things get confusing for me when they're bundled with all the coding. I try to read through the coding & lose the general idea. Actually, I think everything will make a lot more sense when I actually attempt to set up a path from scratch.

Yeah, I know all the coding is out there - but unless I figure it out myself (using the available coding to check on my work), I'll never truly understand what's going on.

Spend some time reading up on http://www.w3schools.com/php/ - free, simple PHP resource.


09-21-2011 05:16 PM #12 403flux (Member)

Been reading up on co-reg myself, this is kind of my take on it.

1) multiple landers before the iframe - why?

The lander is the front end of the path, this is where the creativity of us affiliates comes in to play. We need to give the prospects a reason to fill in their info (mobile#, email, name, gender, etc...). The co-reg companies optimize the back end of the path based on our landers and who we are targeting with our ads. Different landers will appeal to different audiences.

You can target broad with prize style landers that offer ipads, macs, etc as the incentive to fill out the path... or you can make your lander demo specific and offer a Victoria's secret gift card, grocery gift cards, or Toys R Us gift cards, etc... Work with your rep at the co-reg company to set up the appropriate path. Prize style landers aren't the only way to go but I think they are the most common, I've also seen IQ and survey style landers as well, the optical illusion IQ test is really neat and very engaging. Be creative with your angles and engage your audience and entice them to fill in their info.

2) an offer after the iframe - it must be magic!

The co-reg companies will pop different offers to optimize your path based on the performance of the previous offers they've served. Poorer performing offers get dumped while newer offers get rotated in (I think?)

3) building a list vs. not building one

I don't think it ever hurts to build a list, data is king in this industry. Just have a clear idea of how you're going to monetize it and try to stay compliant.

4) in CPV Lab, how would you set up the simplest possible coreg path - vs. the most complicated one (yes, I read shanktank's thread about 5 times - seriously). No code here please.

Sorry I don't use CPV Lab so I have no idea and coding isn't my strong suit either.

5) Bbrock's flow collected an email...then name, email, phone (why didn't he just push the phone # over to the next page?)...then went to the coreg path that verified the # again (why not auto-populate?)...

I think some co-reg companies choose not to pre-pop offers down the path in order to ensure the engagement of the prospect (IMO, making them fill in their mobile # again is kind of like a double-opt in) and to stay compliant with certain offer restrictions. Sucks for conversions but I'm sure it helps their quality.

I could be way off in left field with all this but from what I've read and pieced together, this is pretty much how I've interpreted it. Hopefully a mod can correct me if I'm wrong and fill in the blanks if I'm missing some thing. Hope it helps Liane.


09-21-2011 08:16 PM #13 shanktank (Member)

4) in CPV Lab, how would you set up the simplest possible coreg path - vs. the most complicated one (yes, I read shanktank's thread about 5 times - seriously). No code here please.
You can set up a direct linking campaign.
For example, using the survey style page that optimex showed.

Use javascript to reveal divs so that everything is on that 1 page only (questions, the optin form)
Set that page up as an offer in CPVLab, remember to add ?sid= behind so that you
can pass subids.

Place the conversion pixel on the iframe page.
So, basically conversions=subscribers
so that you can see your page's optin %

I then pass the subid into the SP or GT's offer link.
In their reports, I get the subid that generated revenue
and update it in CPVLab.

Yeah, my super detailed coreg guide was pretty confusing for me as well. =)

The easiest way I've found to understand coreg is do some spying
on Gamevance popups. Look at their process flow and code.

3) building a list vs. not building one
You can just drop an aweber form in it, and you're collecting a list already.
But, if you're only collecting numbers and not emails, you might want to
use php to generate some unique emails to send to aweber.

I used double optin, and in the confirmation email I continued the carrot
dangling I had on my coreg page and asked them to confirm their
email.

They are then sent to an email submit offer when they do. So, extra
monies.


09-22-2011 04:34 AM #14 matthew ny (Member)

Learned a lot from this thread. It definitely scratched my curiosity itch I've had for co-reg. Something I'll definitely think about taking on in the future.


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