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Get profitable or die trying! Starting our journey in a mobile world! (31)

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Hey everyone!

Welcome to our first follow along campaign

Please feel free to leave a comment, advice, remark or whatever you think is suitable here =)

So... the time has come to start our follow along and we are very excited about it.

After a few days of spying and talking to our AM we came up with a couple of offers to start testing.

Following advices of experienced guys from around here we brainstormed about 15 angles and chose 10 that looked more promising.

Ripped off about 10 Lps, chose 2 to start testing.

The main idea behind all this was to test angles first with a minimum number of LPs and then test more LPs after we see which angles work better.

We edited Lps so they fit our angles and created 10 campaigns in Voluum, one for each angle.

We decided to spend 3x of a payout for each lp to make any judgments and let campaign run for at least 2 days.

So to sum this up:
2 offers, 10 angles, 2 LPs

Offers: Android Antivirus pin sumbits
Payout: $5.60 and $3.20
Country: ZA
Traffic Source: PopAds

Let's see how it will work.


P.S.
And the first question is: Is it right to create a separate campaign for each angle? Or maybe just one campaign and add all 20 Lps there? I suppose the first variant to be more correct as we will see which angle works better. Any ideas on it?

The second question: Should we create 10 campaigns in PopAds as well? Won't these campaigns be competing with themselves? Or just create a multi URL campaign and add all 10 urls there?

Thanks guys, let's crush it!

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Hi!

As soon as I posted the thread we found out that I did it in the wrong section lol
Already submited a ticket to move it to the right one.
But who knows, maybe in some time this thread will deserve to be listed in Success stories section

Just to make a quick update on current state of things.

We tested Antivirus offers in ZA but it occurred to be very expensive and competitive GEO. The traffic was very low even though we bid higher than the average. So we decided to pause this campaign.

I talked to my affiliate manager and she offered to run the similar offer but in different geo. We checked traffic prices in PopAds and decided to give it a try. Just need to translate our angles.
Hope we will launch it by the end of the week.

While we paused an Antivirus campaign we decided to get back to the one we tested recently. An Adult pin submit in Brazil.

What we did here:

First of all we decided to test angles. We came up with 18 angles (It is not very hard to brainstorm porn angles lol), some of them were funny, some pretty straight, some hardcore. Ordered a few landers at bannerslanders.com (unfortunately expected more from them).

Result: 1 LP, 18 angles, 1 offer
Traffic source: PopAds
Payout: $0.32 (Isn’t it too low for a pin submit?)
Geo: Brazil

We spent 3x payout for each angle and checked which of them performed better. We got 4 winners. One of them even jumped straight into the green with 50% ROI but fell to -20% by the end of the test.

What’s next: Take these 4 winning angles and test 5-10 LPs with them.

It seems to be all for now.

Let us know what you think guys.

Will keep you updated.

Cheers!

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I remember you guys' introduction thread. Nice to see a follow-along so soon!

It would be better to just dump 20 landers into the same campaign. This way they are rotated evenly and they'll be subject to the same conditions. However, by adding all 10 campaigns into the same popads campaign I suspect you'd be achieving the same effect, so if you like this arrangement then I can't really fault it. I haven't tried running multiple urls in the same popads campaign so can't think of any disadvantages of doing it this way. Guess we'll see won't we?

If you create 10 separate camps on popads, assuming you're bidding the same for all camps, you wouldn't be competing against yourself any more than if you were to run everything in a single camp - you'd just be splitting traffic amongst the 10 camps.

Speaking of bids: One thing I like to do is set up several camps at different bids - low, average, high - and run some traffic to see which one gives me the best ROI, then pause the other 2 and just use the best camp to do all my subsequent lander and offer testing. Performance at different bids can differ drastically. There have been offers I tested, that did not convert at all at the low bid, that were profitable at the higher bid. If I had just set up a single camp at a single bid, I would have paused the camp thinking it had no potential.


Amy

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Thread moved as requested! And I hope to see a future thread by you guys in the Success Stories section as well!


Sounds like a good call! I haven't done spying in a while, but I remember ZA pop traffic prices to be very high last time I ran there (months ago), and that people were running some type of offers that had high profit margins in that geo. Just can't remember what...


Sounds good!


Verrrry nice! Given how promising this offer is, I would suggest that you guys focus on adult pin submits and put antivirus on the backburner for now. Don't be deceived by the low payout - the payout is only half the story, the other half is CR (conversion rate). Low payout offers are priced as such for a good reason, i.e. they convert better than high payout offers. Otherwise everyone would just push high payout offers. And you guys have seen first-hand that this offer can be profitable.

3x payout for each angle is FAR from enough stats to draw any conclusions. When you said 18 angles did you mean 18 different ideas? Or same idea different headlines?

Please see this thread on how to decide which lander is the best when split-testing multiple landers:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...Banners-Part-1


There are also a few other things you can check:

1)Which OSs is most of the traffic for? Android? iOS? Windows phones? Which OS appears to be converting the best?

2)Which carriers does the offer accept? Which carriers are you targeting in popads? Are you targeting just carrier traffic or wifi traffic as well? Again, which carriers are the bulk of the traffic from? And again, which carrier(s) appear to be converting the best/worst?

3)You didn't mention what type of adult offer it was - but certain types of adult offers can convert quite well with just direct-linking. Have you tested direct-linking? If not, consider adding that to the next round of lander split-testing (note: don't just add that in now if you're already split-testing your current batch of landers - or else your data will be skewed).

It would be nice if you could include a screenshot of your Voluum stats - in a hierarchy of OS -> mobile carrier -> lander, like this:



It would probably require quite a few screenshots to capture all the data, but doing so may be well worth your time - if we manage to make some observations from them.


Please do!


Amy

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I just think that this will ease the understanding of what angle is working. So we set 1 campaign per angle in Voluum, then take these 10 URLs and put them into 1 multi url campaign in PopAds. After we get a needed amount of traffic we will see which angle worth further testing and which we should cut.

Yes we decided to concentrate on this campaign for now as we believe we can make it green with some more information and optimization

We keep an eye on these numbers but it is still too little data to make any moves yet, though there are some ideas already. Just waiting for the campaign to receive some more traffic. The offer is 1 click flow pin sumbit. Looking at the offer page I absolutely don't beleive direct linking has any chance. Should we try anyway?

Yes it was 18 different ideas. We planed to test headlines later when we understand which angles and which LPs perform better.

So... what changes have been made. After 2 days of testing we came up with 3 angles that looked more promising for us (it were 4 but we combined 3 and 4 into one angle):



After that we have added 3 new landers to test with these angles. This is what the stats look like:



Overall results
Spend: $14.23
Revenue: $3.20
ROI: -77.51%

We tried to play with bids in order to see if a higher bid converts better. Switched to the highest bid for one hour. The price of traffic skyrocketed but conversion rate stayed the same. So we decided to switch back to the average bid and let the campaign run.

Questions:
It seem pretty hard to increase volume in popads. Even if we choose a pretty high bid. So if we bid high enough to stay profitable we will not receive enough traffic to make even low 2 figures a day. What's the catch? Lost and frustrated...

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The catch is people who can afford to pay more for marketing are getting most of the traffic.

Lets say I am pushing my own offer where the ltv is 1000$ i can easily bid 10x more than the guy where his ltv or payout is $3

Ltv is lifetime customer value when you have the customet direct and you dont send it via network you can sell them more on the backend thus make way more money therefore afford higher marketing cost.

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Thanks Attila. Now it is more clear why those guys bid so high.

So we decided to run the campaign for a couple of days. At the beginning it was more clear which angle/ landing page was better. But after we get more data it became harder to understand what to do next as the ROI is still very low even for the winning angle and lander:

Angle:


lander:


I checked other stats like carrier, OS, brands, models and those who had any conversions are at the negative 50%-70% ROI.

Questions:
1. Should we still continue tweak this campaign or move forward to another one?
2. Anyone running profitable campaigns at PopAds, as I saw a message on the forum saying it is almost impossible to hit the green there.
3. What mobile pop traffic sources have good adult volume in Brazil?


We have set another campaign on the background. As the more we launch the sooner we find our first winner. Will post stats about it after we have any data.

Thanks for any advices beforehand.

Cheers!

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That's great! However, be prepared to spend money on traffic in order to test out these ideas properly. Don't fall into the trap of making decisions prematurely based on insufficient data.

How about a bid that's in between your current bid and the highest bid? I find that the conversion rate can vary by a LOT with different bids.


There are many other pop traffic sources. You're only using popads to test offers and landing pages to find something that works. Once you do you can try scaling to other sources. Some offers are available for multiple geos, and many verticals have offers in multiple geos that you can scale to as well. (Although, different geos will react differently to different landing pages so you'll need to do new testing for each geo.) Moreover, once you find an offer+lander that works, you can start launching on display/banner sources and just start testing banners.

To summarize: there is lots of room for scaling.


1)Right now you're still split-testing landers - waiting for statistical significance and cutting some of them will increase your ROI. Then, it would be good to split-test offers next. After that, you may want to test more angles (from those 18 you came up with). As long as you continue to split-test (offers, landers, anything else), there's potential for ROI to be increased. You could also try testing the same type of offer, also on popads, but for another geo.

2)I currently have profitable camps on popads - some with 200%+ ROI. And I know for a fact I'm not the only one. It's my go-to pop traffic source.

3)I don't have experience with adult in BR, but other networks that have adult pop traffic are zeropark, traffic force, traffic junky, plugrush, exoclick, ero-advertising...there are more but I can't remember off the top of my head.


Amy

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Hello guys!

Few days of silence and here we are back with some good news.

We hit a first profitable day yesterday on our 2 campaigns.

Though they are still in the red overall and numbers are not as big but seeing some progress is very cool and motivating.

Here is the screenshot:



What we did:
1. Run traffic for a few days to gather data
2. Cut everything that pulled campaigns down - carriers, OS, browsers, brands, categories and placements.

What surprised us was that traffic volume has not decreased significantly, almost at the same level as it was before.

Plans:
Right now we have 2 campaigns that have a potential. Our main thoughts on them so far are:
1. testing different bids, as Amy advised, to check if a higher or lower bid may influence campaigns positively,
2. try some other traffic sources to try to scale things up,
3. test WiFi as it has volume, not sure it will convert as good as carrier, but let’s numbers speak.
4. Try to improve CTR and CR on our winning LP
5. Scale to other countries with the same languages


Not sure what to ask at this stage as we seem to have a plan for the nearest time.
But if you have any ideas or remarks please let us know here, we'll appreciate any feedback.

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Congrats guys! And so soon! Great job!

Your plan looks good - it really doesn't look like you'll be needing advice for the next little while - basically just keep scaling and optimizing. However, I'd suggest checking one thing: See if your landers perform differently across your main OS's and carriers (i.e. those you're getting most of your traffic from). It may be a good idea to set up separately camps for each major OS and/or carrier and test landers or offers separately. Especially for different OSs, you'll often see different landers perform differently for each OS. Also, for different carriers you may see different offers perform differently, i.e. Offer1 may convert better for CarrierA whereas Offer2 may convert better for CarrierB.

Another advantage to setting up new camps to target different OSs/carriers/etc., is so that you can adjust bids for each separately.

Keep in mind though to ONLY do this for traffic segments (OSs/carriers/etc.) that are giving you a lot of traffic volume. Otherwise you'd be spending too much time for small returns that are not worth it. Alternatively, you can just scale right now and see if the camp will be profitable on other sources. You can always do the traffic-segment testing I described above later if you see fit.

I'll end my post here before you get sick of seeing the word "different" haha!

Time to hustle guys! Milk it with all your might!


Amy

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Hey! Whatsup everyone...

It's been a while since we posted here.

Nothing major happened since our last message, just trying to figure things out and work our asses off

So... We managed to find one profitable campaign making about 30% ROI consistantly.

Antivirus pinsubmit in Malaysia.

What we did to improve the campaign:
- different bids. Low, mid and high. Mid bid turned out to perform the best, others were not profitable.
- New landers. Nothing worked better then our winner. Some were close but still not profitable.
- New angles. Tested about 10 angles with the winning LP, but the original one showed best results.
- Tested traffic sources. We run our main campaign on Popads. We tried to scale to other similar networks - ZeroPark, Popcash. PopCash offers only popunder traffic but I'm not sure if I understand how to work with it at the moment. In my opinion popunders have different nature and sychology behind them. So it has to be some different approach to it. Though some guys say PopCash is the only traffic source that works well for them, we did not manage to make it profitable. ZeroPark seem to be good and the volume is fine, working on it right now and it seems we can make it work for us.

But... bad news came yesterday from our AM, who said that the offer we were running has been capped to 40 leads a day for the whole network, which means NO volume at all.

We switched to other network which has similar offer for our GEO, set it up and started running traffic just before I posted this, so no data yet.

As well we tried to apply to a few major networks. I was surprised when one of them asked to provide contact details of my current AM to ask her about traffic quality. Never faced with this before. I didn't like this idea very much. This means that my AM has to recommend us to their competitor and I'm not sure if it is ethical enough to ask her about it. Did anyone face such issue?

Anyway... the fight goes on... we will not turn from this path I read lots of follow alongs of other guys who started just like us, clueless and not understanding where to move further and hit XXXX profit days in a few months. Experience is the best teacher and we plan to learn from it.

Here is the screen shot of our earnings so far... it is nothing for some guys here but a huge milestone for us. Looking forward to these numbers in a day

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Congratulations! In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter that one offer went down. You guys did all the right things, which can be applied to other offers in the future.

As for sources, you guys can also try adcash, propeller and gunggo.

TIP: For something like antivirus, many of the same angles will work for different geos. If you guys have the test budget, it would be a good idea to start testing antivirus offers in other geos. Start with asian and latam geos. Choose a few landers (from your undoubtedly large collection by now) and get them translated into multiple languages and start testing. For latam, just by translating into Spanish will allow you to test lots of geos.


Actually this is common. Any AM who has worked in this industry for some length of time should be used to getting requests like these from affiliates. But I know what you mean. I felt exactly like you said the first time I was asked to do that as well.


Can't agree more! You guys will do fine from here onwards no doubt. You have all the basics down. Just need to keep testing now to find another offer you can scale on. Best of luck!



Amy

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I was thinking a lot about ways of making money with affiliate marketing in general, read posts, case studies and follow alongs of experienced guys.

And what comes to my mind is that they all do something different.

I do not believe they just buy traffic, redirect it to certain offer and convert it. This scheme may have some odds but it is too simple nowadays i think.

I see the same LPs in AdsExposed and AdPlexity, I do not believe they make 10k/day with these shitty "scan your phone" saturated pages.

It is still possible to make some money (I guess low xxx/day) working like: mobile pop -> LP -> offer. But it seems to me that real money is made somewhere on another level.

I have one idea that I think has a potential. Working on it right now. Will start testing it this wekend or next week. and will share if it shows any decent result.

Looking for networks which have strong internationsl CPI offers. So if you have something, pm us or hit me up on skype: moooolt

Already applied to MundoMedia and Glispa, hope to get approved in the nearest days.

Just thoughs

What you guys think about it? What schemes and flows you use in your campaigns?

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Good work! nice to read it! Can you ask, with what budged you start? Thanks.

Greetings from Lithuania our friend Ukraine!

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Hey Sadlave
thanks and nice to meet you
Our budget is $4K-$5K overal.. For tools and traffic.
I like Lithuania, hope to visit it one day). Cheers.

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First of all, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that the mobile pop -> LP -> offer model CAN and DOES make money, and not just low xxx/day.

Think: Big vertical with either a good international offer or lots of offers available in tons of geos + landers that are effective in multiple geos + all of the biggest pop sources + lots of geos.

Pop traffic is fragmented for sure, and if you're talking scalability pop doesn't even come close to big sources like facebook or adwords for example. But it's not as hopeless as you're describing - at least not yet.

Having said that, I'd say trust your instincts. If you have a plan you feel better about, by all means get on it and start testing. Pop traffic is great for newbies to learn the ropes with because anyone could rip a few landers and set up a campaign the same day, but there's no reason to get married to it and live with it happily ever after.

Looking forward to your test results! Wish you guys the best.


Amy

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What's up everyone.

Here is a small update on what we have been up to during this week.

Last week was pretty negative as we tried to make something work but unfortunately everything we did failed. Tested few offers, lots of campaigns but none of them showed any signs of life.

However on Monday we asked our AM to give some offers to test again.

We copied about 10 Lps, edited them, took 3 similar offers and set up a campaign.

When we looked at Voluum in the morning we saw 5 conversions. Well... that is a good sign...

So we let it run to gather some data, and started cutting what performed bad. Everything like in a cookbook - landing pages, carriers, models, browsers and all that stuff.

We got accepted to Adsimilis and decided to test same offers with them.

So in the middle of the week we had 4 campaigns running, 2 per network - one popup and one popunder. And what a frustration it was when one day we hit the green, make some corrections but the next day everything went down. We were run out of ideas what to do next.

But... we decided to play with day parting.. cut all hours that didn't convert and left only that that were profitable.

And here is the result for today:
200% ROI and first $50/day profit



Tasks for the next week:
1. We got accepted to MundoMedia, so we plan to start running something with them
2. Test 2 new geos with 2-3 offers.
3. Increase traffic to our working campaign with a new traffic source, would like to try propeller ads
4. Reach $100/day profit

Little insight on what we are running:
Network: ClickDealer and Adsimilis
Offer: Antivirus pinsubmit
Geo: Turkey
Traffic source: PopAds

Thanks for reading.

Updates coming soon.

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Congrats guys! Antivirus is definitely a good vertical to push on pop traffic, and popads has a ton of traffic for Turkey. My guess is that $100/day profit will happen in a few days - maybe it already has since your last post?

Because there's so much TR traffic on popads, you can zoom in on certain traffic segments and still make nice profits. Do some drilling into your stats. See if there are OSs, carriers etc. that are performing especially well. Even drill down to 2 levels deep to identify the gold, e.g. OS -> Carrier. Make sure the segments you pick have enough traffic to worth your trouble. For each gold traffic segment, set up several camps at different bids to find the one with best ROI. Then either just keep the best one running or keep all the profitable ones running, and blacklist unprofitable placements.

Do you guys still have a daily budget or campaign budget set? Since you're in profit it would be good to set them to unlimited. Check stats regularly though to make sure all is well.

Tip: Check with your AM to see if the offer accepts adult traffic. Antivirus can do very well on adult. If the offer doesn't accept adult, test offers that do.

And if you guys are only running popunders, also try popups, tabups, and tabunders.

Antivirus is a very "scalable" offer type, where the same landers can work well for different geos. Don't just translate your best lander - translate at least several of your best, because every geo will still react differently to landers. Think big: multiple geos on all major pop sources. It's very doable.

Looking forward to more good news from you guys soon!


Amy

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Hello guys!

Would like to update out follow along.

What an interesting thing affiliate marketing is indeed lol.. you never know what will you get tomorrow - success or failure

This week we faced with a new issue for us - same campaign with the same settings of traffic can perform VERY differently from day to day.

It was all about ups and downs, we woke up in the morning and saw -50% and it grew up to +40% by the end of the day. It really trains your mental abilities. And your mood changes with the profit The higher it is, the more positive you are.

We haven't reached goals that we set for this week but we got new insights and new tips that we can implement in future to grow our campaigns and to make them more stable.

Here are stats day by day:

Monday:
Revenue: $110, Cost: $62.5, Profit: $47.5, ROI: 76.01%

Tuesday:
Revenue: $135.6, Cost: $84.61, Profit: $50.99, ROI: 60.26%

Wednesday:
Revenue: $113.2, Cost: $78.07, Profit: $35.13, ROI: 45%

Thursday:
Revenue: $113.6, Cost: $37.33, Profit: $76.27, ROI: 204.29%

Friday:
Revenue: $59.2, Cost: $41.73, Profit: $17.47, ROI: 41.86%

Suturday:
Revenue: $168.4, Cost: $116.84, Profit: $51.56, ROI: 44.13%

Sunday:
Revenue: $99.6, Cost: $56.01, Profit: $43.59, ROI: 77.83%

Tasks and goals for the next week stay pretty much the same as we haven't reach them this time:
- increase traffic
- test new geos
- test few new offers in a successful geo

Do you experience the same? that same campaign with the same traffic performs differently from day to day? How do you deal with it?

Have a productive week everyone.

Cheers

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Hi oleandr,

Thanks for the great follow-along man, it was helpful for me, as I'm having most of the issues that you had, i'm running adult mobile campaigns in Spain, using banner traffic from JuicyAds & Exoclick.
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I have 2 questions for you, I hope you can help me.

How are you getting your clicks so cheap ? in one of your campaign's stats, you got 24,157 visits for $29.96 !! which is way cheaper that what I pay for my traffic, are you using CPC or CPM?. Below is my campaigns stats.



Do you think because you are using pop traffic ? is Pop traffic way cheaper than banner display traffic?

My second question please.

I know your vertical is different that mine and that could be the main reason for the difference in CTR between my LPs and yours, but what kind of call to action are you using to get your CTR? have you noticed any boost for using specific call to action or LP style?

I'm asking because I have done major changes in my LPs in order to improve my CTR, as the average CTR for my landers is 9.06%, which I think its too low. I didn't notice any improvements at all after all my changes.

I hope you can help me with my questions.

Thanks in advance man, I wish you the best of luck with your campaigns, keep going

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Nice! These stats are for TR on Popads?

With so much data, it would be good to spend time analyzing them to see how you can get more profits out of each traffic segment. Have you guys had a chance to drill down into your stats to see if certain traffic segments (OS/carrier/browsers/device) are doing especially well? Or especially bad? For the ones with high ROI, it may be worth the trouble to target them separately and bid higher. And of course you may want to cut some of the bad performers.

And have you guys played with bids yet? Don't be afraid to test high bids - just make sure you set a low budget in case of losses.

Regarding ROI fluctuations from day to day - yes this is common (actually I would go as far as to say that it's almost always the case!) In fact, if you drill down to stats by hour, you'll find the same thing. If you find that certain hours of the day are consistently losing money for you, start implementing day parting if your traffic source allows it (you're doing Popads right? They allow that there!) As for day-to-day fluctuations - you probably won't want to cut out an entire day of the week - just cutting out the unprofitable hours should be enough.

Also - if you guys haven't scaled to other traffic source yet you definitely should, because this camp is consistently profitable already. Zeropark and PropellerAds both have good traffic volumes for this geo so I would start with those.

Up up and away! $100 in profits/day is right around the corner!



Amy

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Hey Jordan,

thanks, happy this follow along is useful for someone

I'm not an expert for giving advices, though here are my thoughts.

Concerning clicks cost. We run campaigns on a cpm basis. And we modify our bids throughout the day. So it can be $4 cpm in day time and we usually reduce the cost twice in night time as competition is very low at night and prices drop drasticaly. So I guess this is the reason for low clicks cost.
I never tried mobile banners, so sorry can not compare the level of prices.

Concerning LP's CTR. Banner traffic and pop traffic have different nature so they might perform differently as well. I suppose it is natural for banners to have pretty low ctr, but if you grab user's attention and he clicks your banner, there are more chances he will click through your LP and convert.

Pops however is more agressive method of advertising as you interrupt user's browsing and your LP just pops up in front of him. In this case you have to be really creative how to make this user click further and not leave.
Moreover, in case with antiviruses we usually use agressive stuff like exit pops and back buttons redirects so it is really hard to understand the real CTR of the LP, as even if the user wants to quit and clicks back, he is still being redirected to the offer. So in this case CTR is usually close to 100% but it is not natural, not real.

Hope this helps.

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Thank you very much Amy!

You are always very helpful and your posts are filled with quality advice, really appreciate it.

Yes we tested different bids and came to the conclusion that mid bid works best for us. When we try to bid really high, our CR does not increase accordingly so it is much expensive traffic that converts not as well as we need. When we bid low, the volume drops heavily.

We adjusted time of day already and cut all hours that performed badly.

We also cut bad segments like OS versions, browser versions, carriers, placements, etc.

Scaling to differenttraffic sources is what we plan to implement this week, hope this show some positive results.

Thanks a lot again

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Hi!

It's been a while since I wrote to our follow along as we were busy testing different stuff.

We basically do not post much here as 99.9% of all questions newbies like us have have been already answered multiple times on the forum. So we just search around and get what we are looking for. Something comes from our own experience, launching campaigns, working with traffic sources, affiliate managers, etc.

Follow alongs are useful on the first stage, to see some support from experienced guys, get some general advices and motivation to push yourself even when you are still in the red. But then everything is up to your work ethics.

What we have been up to last month (March):
- Main profitable offers paused
- Tested a bunch of offers that were not profitable
- Tested some traffic sources that did not work well for us
- Almost two weeks in the negative ROI
- Hit stable xxx/day figures profit

Ideas and conclusions from last month:
- AM is very changeable and unpredictable -)
- It is possible to make significant money with 1 offer, 1 geo, 1 traffic source
- Ask your affiliate manager for offer recommendations, but also test other offers from the network. Sometimes a winner will surprise you.
- Examine your traffic source. What geo has the most volume, play with bids, when throughout the day you get the most traffic.

Our results so far:
January
Cost $108.17
Revenue $32.58
Profit $-75.59
ROI -69.88%
February
Cost $1,156.90
Revenue $1,129.80
Profit $-27.11
ROI -2.34%
March
Cost $2,495.40
Revenue $4,055.00
Profit $1,559.60
ROI 62.50%

Here is what one of our best days look like:


Plans for April:
- Scale our winning campaign
- Test new geos
- Test new traffic sources
- Hopefuly reach 1K/day profit

Questions:
- Any underground traffic source which has mobile pops volume? Would love to get in touch.
- Anyone buying traffic from networks in bulk and then redirects it in Voluum? Carriers -> here, wifi -> there, android -> here, ios -> there, etc.
- Solution to redirect unconvertible traffic? Where to redirect?
- Who's coming to Berlin for AWE?

Thanks for reading guys! Good luck!

See you soon.

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Hello! great result. What verticals do you promote?

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Great results bud, keep going. Are you still in AV Pins

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Hi mate

I love your follow thru

You are my another top newbie role model to look at. I want to work towards your achievement too

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great thread... i am looking to explore this area of AM as well.. thanks for all the great info

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Fellow newbie, congrats and hope to be where you are soon!!

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Hey hey hey,

thanks for kind words everyone.

Though April was pretty tough for us, we continue working on making results more stable and profits higher. After reading follow alongs of such guys as Kepe95 and Sebastian_r we got a strong desire to repeat and even overcome their results. Thank you guys.

So after we were able to hit $400-$500 days in profit, our offers have been paused one day and left us sitting and thinking what to do next and how to get back to these numbers again.

We tested several GEOs, new offers, but nothing seemed to work.

Our average day looked like -$50/day and I must confess it is pretty hard to stay positive and keep going when you are constantly loosing money. However by the end of the month we managed to find something that at least worked and showed some potential. Working on it right now.

It is still far from XXX daily profits but it keeps the cashflow going and helps us testing new stuff.

What we learned:
- Build relations. With traffic source, with your AMs. Sometimes you can get something that others don't just because you have good relations with needed people.
- Do not rely on 1 campaign. Once you set everything up it does not require much time and effort. Launch and test more. It may lower your overal daily ROI but will benefit you in the long run.
- Keep going even when shit is tough.

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This is one of the toughest things in AM, many people hit their first big set of campaigns, then they die ... many simply drown in their own frustration and never manage to get on their feet again. Those who do, usually end up with even bigger and most profitable campaigns. The most important thing when this happens is to repeat this in your head : "I already made it working ones so it can be done again and this shit is real" - never let the doubts kill your spirit!

Im sure you will grow your revenue to XXX soon again, just keep looking for the right offer

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