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To cloak or not to cloak? (15)


09-20-2011 05:04 PM #1 shhhant (Senior Member)
To cloak or not to cloak?

Can anyone give any suggestions whether you should cloak on mobile or not? I know the redirect can lose a ton of clicks, especially with Prosper, so what do you guys recommend when setting up campaigns? Do you just put the URL you get from the CPA network straight into the ad network or do you have a method to release as little info as possible?


09-21-2011 05:37 PM #2 vidivo (Member)

kinda interested in this as well... cus if you cloak with p202 i find that you lose lots of traffic.. probably best to just use the ad network link but then again its hard to optimize that way.. 0_0


09-22-2011 08:45 PM #3 shhhant (Senior Member)

anyone??


09-22-2011 11:15 PM #4 colorofspace (Member)

I imagine you should cloak when you are running something that isn't compliant.


09-23-2011 12:43 AM #5 eliquid (Member)

if you have to ask if you need to cloak, then dont as you will not do well with it


09-23-2011 02:39 AM #6 polarbacon (Moderator)

I don't know about the mobile world....but this is what I will say about cloaking networks....unless you are doing shady shit there really is no point.....

I have sent a fair amount of clicks to networks over the last few years.....and I never have had an issue.....hell I still don't use tracking on some of my FB camps......

run with networks you trust.....you generally wont have issues


09-23-2011 03:23 AM #7 chillyh2o (Member)

bring it in ssl out non = scrub a dub.


09-23-2011 06:09 AM #8 dario (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by chillyh2o View Post
bring it in ssl out non = scrub a dub.
can you please help me understand this ?


09-23-2011 06:13 AM #9 dario (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vidivo View Post
kinda interested in this as well... cus if you cloak with p202 i find that you lose lots of traffic.. probably best to just use the ad network link but then again its hard to optimize that way.. 0_0
About the p202 cloaking (double meta refresh i suppose)
Do you think that losing traffic happens with non-mobile visitors too ?


09-23-2011 06:39 AM #10 shhhant (Senior Member)

+1 for scrub a dub, no idea what that meant lol

umm, I've heard that for traffic like PPV cloaking without a lander could take slightly long enough that a person will lose interest and insta-X the popup window but if you use a lander and they click through the lander the cloaking lag isn't such a big deal.... someone correct me if I'm wrong.


09-23-2011 09:05 AM #11 b28da6o0n (Member)

Personally I recommend cloaking your referrers always especially if you're using a lander...If your traffic is legit it will back out and the advertiser will profit and the network will be happy. If not, then it won't. Showing your traffic sources / referrers will not change this. If you do show your traffic sources to your network, you take an unnecessary risk of letting your network see your landing page (or them finding out about an obscure traffic source) ...they could do whatever they want with it and that could suck for you (possibly leading to the market getting saturated with other affs). But, as people have said if you trust them it shouldn't really matter.


09-23-2011 05:33 PM #12 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dario View Post
About the p202 cloaking (double meta refresh i suppose)
Do you think that losing traffic happens with non-mobile visitors too ?
Yes you will lose some people as long as stuff is slow.

http://prosper.tracking202.com/blog/money-loves-speed


10-11-2011 08:44 PM #13 jspecify (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dario View Post
can you please help me understand this ?

What this means:

Make your destination link secure with (ssl) a.k.a. secure shell or 'https'

that way the advertiser you are sending leads too does not scrub your leads.

Scrub means: they do not give you credit for leads. Like email submits for example.

A secure page model eliminates those issues.


10-12-2011 12:45 AM #14 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

At the end of the day no amount of trying to hide your campaign will keep you completed isolated. We don't live in a bubble. If its not the ad network that outs you, its a competing affiliate. No matter what you're shit will be found out sooner or later and most networks are good at hunting things down. 80/20 rule if you have to spend 80% of your time in fear of losing 20% of your campaigns its probably not worth it.


10-12-2011 04:29 AM #15 gts6 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jspecify View Post
What this means:

Make your destination link secure with (ssl) a.k.a. secure shell or 'https'

that way the advertiser you are sending leads too does not scrub your leads.

Scrub means: they do not give you credit for leads. Like email submits for example.

A secure page model eliminates those issues.
that wont prevent scrubbing.. it will only prevent the anyone from knowing which page they were on last before arriving at the offer (blanking the referer)

they can still scrub, with or without a blank referer.


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