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3 Things You Must Know Before Scaling A Campaign (6)


01-18-2016 02:03 PM #1 andy_d (Veteran Member)
3 Things You Must Know Before Scaling A Campaign

New Post Up. I share my thoughts on scaling campaigns, the associates roadblocks you will commonly come across and perhaps a few strategies to mitigate them.

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Often times scaling a campaign isn’t as easy as it’s made out to be. The first route is usually adding more traffic sources into the mix, or by duplicating your efforts over more campaigns, with different targeting, different angles, or by running your campaign over more than one traffic account on the same traffic-source.

What are the common roadblocks here?

Well, every source that say, may have the same format of ads (for example, native), won’t always perform as well as another source for a multitude of reasons, such as the available demographics, placements or overall traffic quality (some sources are really bad at vetting their publishers and are subject to a lot of fraud). It may just be that the source in question requires more testing of variations to your winning ads and landing pages in order to ‘crack’ that source. An example is landing page sizes on pop sources. Try tweaking the viewable size of the page and see how each variation performs on said traffic. It’s wise to find out what the pop dimensions are too, as many sources vary. If the source is break-even to slight loss, I’ll continue testing tweaks, so long as I don’t go into the red too far, until I’m in the land of the green, where the tree’s sway, the daffodils flourish, and I can frolic in the meadows of profitability.

Add More Countries?

Scaling into other geo’s (geographical regions) also tends to come with a new set of issues. A lot of people purporting scaling to other geo’s should be as easy as 1-2-3 are pulling your leg, I’m afraid. Some of the common problems I’ve faced are typically incorrect or poor translations (even from expensive translators on onehourtranslation.com), traffic sources that perform better than other’s with certain geo’s (for example, one source worked great for me in the US, but sucked royally in France and Japan).

Why would this be? Different publishers, different placements & different audience come to mind. To note, it’s also potentially easier for these publishers to utilise bot traffic to increase their RPMs.

I have a solution for traffic sources that would help filter out a lot of the bullshit – pretty surprised they don’t do it already (greedy bastards) – block colocation & hosting companies and only allow valid ISPs through. That’ll minimize the problem a bucket-load.

Death by CAP


Looking to scale infinitely? Yeah, calm down soldier. Caps are a ceiling, imposed by the advertiser on the network, of how many leads they are able to handle on a daily/monthly basis, and they can stifle your ability to scale a lot. I absolutely LOATHE caps. I always seem to get surprised by them whenever I start scaling up, depositing a lot of money into traffic sources etc… Complete nightmare. I’ll go from 50 to 100 sales a day, and no one bats an eye. I go from 100 to 250 sales a day and all of the sudden the alarm bells start ringing and a soft-cap which I never knew about is imposed on me, at 150 leads a day (for example), which, if you blow over, can cause the advertiser to hard-cap the network. The difference between a hard and soft cap, from my understanding, is in the case of a soft-cap, any minimal spill-over, will still get paid out, but in the case of a hard-cap, any accidental spill-over will be on the network or affiliate and they’ll eat a loss. Obviously it’s in the best interest of the network to avoid a hard-cap, as it ultimately means less revenue for the network. The advertiser will either stop firing conversion pixels after xx leads a day, or they will only pay what they set the maximum cap at, if the specified cap is reached and exceeded.

My only tips here is to have backups in place, if you can find any, that still convert (normally not as well) and can keep your campaigns above water. Else, just pause traffic and resume when the clock strikes 12 (check with your network which time-zone they abide by) or when the month restarts.

Managing Workload


As a one man show, still, I only ever outsource bits and pieces when I need the extra grunt work, but don’t (at this current point in time) have any full-time employees. This creates a drastic issue, and that is, scaling over to 5 different sources, means 5 x the workload for optimizing, which can be a daily chore and take FOREVER. I had a situation last year, where I ran a campaign over 13-14 countries on 4-5 sources and had to optimize every 1-2 days to keep it profitable. Looking back, it would have been really convenient to have a full-time employee optimizing for me all day so I could focus on other, more important things, like finding more traffic sources.

Let’s have a conversation…

What are the main issues and roadblocks you run into when trying to scale your campaigns? Leave a comment below and if it’s something I’ve dealt with and found a way to handle it, I’ll try my best to provide some tips.

– Andrew, aka Andy D

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01-20-2016 02:53 AM #2 northernlights (Member)

I like it when somebody for once speaks the truth about how things actually work in the industry. Scaling while still keeping profitability with some offers/verticals can be a huge risk play and you're, or at least should be, constantly stressing out about the risk/reward ratio whether your efforts have more ROI trying to scale this or firing up new campaigns and let this accumulate profits in the background.


01-20-2016 06:58 AM #3 wiifmdude ()

Interesting post!

I would also add to the mix of difficulties :

- Scaling your winning creatives to a spybot-friendly traffic source unintentionally... and lose all your traction in a few days (obviously this only occurs when you where first using "protected" placements/sources), now instead of being a happy bunny with a winning campaign in 1 GEO/source, you've given all your hardwork to dumb copycats in 1 minute.

- Regarding GEOs, the dreaded "GEO change... we are changing country XYZ from Tier 1 to Tier 3 link, good luck with your ROI" is also very uncool

- Waking up with an email saying "Offer XYZ immediate shutdown"... which was unfortunately sent 8 hours earlier while you were asleep, despite the Network offer page saying "24 hours notification period".

Regarding translations you're 100% right... just had a tiny 35 words translation from OHT come back with 1 typo and 1 completely wrong word (translated "from" instead of "for"...), luckily I found them but it's a miracle: needless to say that if it had been russian or arabic, I would have never suspected there was anything wrong with this translation...


01-20-2016 12:50 PM #4 andy_d (Veteran Member)

Exactly, I have no clue whether my translations are correct or not.

I sometimes find translating using the General text translation option on OHT and then using a proof-reader works well.


01-25-2016 05:10 PM #5 servandosilva (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by andy_d View Post
Exactly, I have no clue whether my translations are correct or not.

I sometimes find translating using the General text translation option on OHT and then using a proof-reader works well.
Just in case I always translate them back in a couple of free services on the net to see if it actually makes sense.

Of course this doesn't help much when the language is so different that the translator could be doing it wrong, but in that case I like to split test multiple translations to see which one converts better.
Great blog BTW.


01-26-2016 07:58 AM #6 andy_d (Veteran Member)

Yeah, what I've started to do now is if the performance of the page sucks, I'll pay someone from fiverr with good reviews to either proof read the page, IN it's own context, and also get another person to translate the text, then compare every line of translation to see what sounds better to google translate itself, and mix and match that way.. Instead of trusting one entire translation.


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