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So far I have been accepted to YTZ, A4D, Addiliate (*Got reject from F5) -- Tips? (10)
01-17-2016 10:44 PM
#1
jayloerns (Member)
So far I have been accepted to YTZ, A4D, Addiliate (*Got reject from F5) -- Tips?
Just curious.
Are these Networks good enough to get started on Mobile?
YTZ
A4D
Addiliate
I also have a potential traffic source list compiled:
BuySellAds
payperpost
Facebook
Decisive (skip for now)
ZeroPark (skip for now)
Go2Mobi
PopAds
Rakuten
Mgid
Traffic Junky
Content.AD
Propeller ADS Media ($1k min)
AdCash
I just want to make sure that YTZ, A4D and Addiliate is good enough to get started on mobile.
My next steps are: Find a vertical/offer, then sign up for a Spy Tool like WhatRunsWhere, study some ADS, then create my own variations. Then of course, sign up for Voluum.
Tips?
Is this a good roadmap? Advice?
01-18-2016 04:58 PM
#2
vortex (Senior Moderator)
Your question is a bit general.
First of all, which vertical are you looking to get into? Mobile is such a huge area. Are you wanting to try sweepstakes? Antivirus? Nutra? Adult?
Your traffic sources list has a mixed of different traffic types as well. Are you wanting to get into pop traffic first or banner display traffic?
Once you know which vertical you want to try first, please update the thread, and we'll try to point you in the right direction.
Also, for a beginner, it is strongly suggested that you choose 1-2 traffic sources to use while learning the ropes. There is definitely a learning curve when learning how to launch campaigns, and trying to learn multiple traffic sources simultaneously will add to that learning curve unnecessarily. If you have to pick one traffic source for mobile, AND you're interested in running display (banner) traffic, I would highly recommend Go2Mobi. It has a wide range of targeting options, and is very newbie-friendly. (If you're wanting to promote adult offers though, then Go2Mobi will not be a good match as they don't allow adult.)
A4D is a solid affiliate network. Addiliate I haven't tried so can't comment on. YTZ is a rotational traffic monetization service - you can throw any traffic at them from any geo and other targeting and they'll match you up with the best-converting offer they have for that targeting. YTZ is very convenient in that you don't need to test offers or landing pages. However, I find that by testing individual offers and landers, you can often (more often than not) make higher profits. So this is one consideration that will hopefully help you with your decision.
Amy
01-18-2016 07:06 PM
#3
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)
There is not much to add, Amy pretty much covered all the basics and we really need more info from you.
F5 media has reps on this forum, PM some of them and they might take you on board.
Then we can help you with picking the traffic source. Especially if you choose an adult offer, since you only have one pure adult network in the mix, trafficjunky, and that one isnt the best for mobile as they dont allow carrier targeting.
01-18-2016 07:14 PM
#4
jayloerns (Member)
Alright, so initially, I was interested in the HEALTH vertical. I am not too familiar with all the ones you've mentioned (sweepstakes, antivirus, nutra etc..)
I didn't realize I have to figure out which traffic source is best for that vertical also...
When you say "Pick one or two traffic sources and networks" -- is that even a good strategy for a newbie? How would I know the optimal traffic sources and networks if I have zero reference?
Thanks guys!
01-18-2016 07:34 PM
#5
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
jayloerns
How would I know the optimal traffic sources and networks if I have zero reference?
You wouldnt and the only way to figure this out is by testing
There are some decisions you need to make first and then you can lets say taylor the list down a bit.
Im not sure if you already made a decision to go with Health related offers or it was just an option, so let me just generally adress the process you should go through when deciding what to promote and where to get traffic.
First of all, are you gonna do Adult or Not? Many networks have both adult and mainstream traffic, but if you were to choose adult, you really need to look at the pure adult networks as your priority.
Next is the delivery method, are you gonna use banners, or you want to try PPV, popunders, redirects etc ...
Will you focus on mobile or desktop? Some networks are mobile only for example.
Will you go for high quality expensive traffic or would you preffer to start with something cheaper?
These are all questions you should have answers for to be able to pick a network to start with.
01-18-2016 11:57 PM
#6
jayloerns (Member)

Originally Posted by
matuloo
You wouldnt and the only way to figure this out is by testing
There are some decisions you need to make first and then you can lets say taylor the list down a bit.
Im not sure if you already made a decision to go with Health related offers or it was just an option, so let me just generally adress the process you should go through when deciding what to promote and where to get traffic.
First of all, are you gonna do Adult or Not? Many networks have both adult and mainstream traffic, but if you were to choose adult, you really need to look at the pure adult networks as your priority.
Next is the delivery method, are you gonna use banners, or you want to try PPV, popunders, redirects etc ...
Will you focus on mobile or desktop? Some networks are mobile only for example.
Will you go for high quality expensive traffic or would you preffer to start with something cheaper?
These are all questions you should have answers for to be able to pick a network to start with.
Alright, here is what I'd like:
1.) NON-Adult
2.) REDIRECTS
3.) MOBILE
4.) I'll start with something cheaper
Got any recommendations?
01-21-2016 08:30 PM
#7
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
jayloerns
Alright, here is what I'd like:
1.) NON-Adult
2.) REDIRECTS
3.) MOBILE
4.) I'll start with something cheaper
Got any recommendations?
Nice! Now we're getting specific.
When I see "Redirects" and "Mobile", Zeropark is the first network that comes to mind. Exoclick has mobile redirects as well, and like zeropark, they have both adult and non-adult categories for you to choose from.
Are you JUST after redirects? Or would popups/unders be acceptable as well? They're the same setup basically - offer + lander - and most offers that accept popups/unders will also accept redirects and vice versa. Main difference is that redirect traffic is usually more expensive and converts better.
If you'd also consider pop sources, good ones to start with are: popads, popcash, zeropark, mediahub.
As for offers that work well with these types of traffic - because this is broad traffic (as opposed to targeted traffic), you'd want to test offers that have wide appeal, such as sweepstakes, antivirus, biz op. Simply tell your affiliate managers you're wanting to run on pop/redirect traffic sources and ask them for offers that perform the best for this type of traffic. Also ask for pin submit offers - those can do well on pop too.
Hope that helps! Do let us know how you get on.
Amy
01-25-2016 04:06 PM
#8
cmdeal (Veteran Member)
Run some campaigns!
01-26-2016 10:48 PM
#9
jayloerns (Member)
In the middle of it --- Running into all sorts of annoying administrative issues.
1.) MGID put my AD in moderation because I was a new advertiser etc..
2.) Then rejected again because the offer *(By YTZ) had nothing to do with my AD
3.) Sure enough, the offer I originally got from YTZ is now redirecting to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCT -- they said that offer was 'changed'
4.) Sigh.
Anyway...I am still at it guys, will update you when I am up to my next adventure 
01-27-2016 12:09 AM
#10
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
jayloerns
In the middle of it --- Running into all sorts of annoying administrative issues.
1.) MGID put my AD in moderation because I was a new advertiser etc..
2.) Then rejected again because the offer *(By YTZ) had nothing to do with my AD
3.) Sure enough, the offer I originally got from YTZ is now redirecting to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCT -- they said that offer was 'changed'
4.) Sigh.
Anyway...I am still at it guys, will update you when I am up to my next adventure

YTZ will rotate through a number of different offers - for this reason it may not be the best match for a traffic source like MGID.
If you're wanting to do YTZ arbitrage, try pop and redirect traffic, and zeropark would be a good start. Experiment by setting up 2 camps on ZP: Both "global" campaigns, one for PPV and the other for Domain Redirects. Then cut countries that are spending too much without many conversions. Basically cut the losers and run the winners. YTZ arbitrage isn't as easy to do anymore, unless you'd be willing to test a TON of the less-known traffic sources. But if you want to make your first dollar, zeropark would be a good place to start.
Alternatively of course, you could just test individual CPA offers instead. Learning curve is steeper, but IMO there's greater profit potential, because you'd have more control on optimizing your camps.
Amy
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