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09-15-2011 05:36 PM #1 patje72 (Member)
Photoshop question

Hey...the maximum bannersize on Pof is 50kB...
When I create a banner in photoshop the quality of the banner isn't that great after I resize/compress it. Today I tried to make an animated (3pics) and it's arround 80kb. When I compress it...the quality sucks. With 2 pics it's 68kb

Any advise (settings in PS??)

Thanks!

09-15-2011 05:46 PM #2 driv (Member)

Make sure you're selecting 'Save for web and devices' from the file menu in PS

09-15-2011 05:53 PM #3 abcd (AMC Alumnus)

You can also try yahoo smushit (online) for compression.

09-15-2011 05:56 PM #4 patje72 (Member)

Thanks. I tried it, but still to large. 50kb limit isn't a lot. Even with 2 pics the quality isn't that great.
Am I missing something?

Edit: Also tried smush it. But it has the same result as PS.

09-15-2011 06:09 PM #5 z6marketing (Member)

I've made IAB banners with 10 frames and had it come in under 50kb in photoshop. Make sure you're using Save For Web And Devices and not just Save As. Also check your settings in that window - you might have it set to a really strange setting. Make sure it's set to animated gif and the lowest possible option. It'll look fine and come out smaller.

09-15-2011 06:13 PM #6 patje72 (Member)

Thanks Bil. I will play with the settings.

09-15-2011 07:02 PM #7 patje72 (Member)

Shoot me...I cannot get a descent quality. The one below is 52kb, but I think it's quality is to low.
I used preset Gif 64 with dith


And this are the settings (dutch, but you probably understand the settings)
Maybe the banner is to colorfull??

09-15-2011 08:59 PM #8 z6marketing (Member)

IDK what to tell you man, my settings are identical (I think? haha) and I never have size issues. And my quality never seems to suffer too badly from it. One thing that's different is your colors are set to 64, I have mine set to 256, so that might account for the quality difference.

09-15-2011 09:09 PM #9 Mr Green (Administrator)

Send me the original, I'll try play around with the settings.

09-15-2011 10:01 PM #10 ppchound (Member)

Try using the 'smart sharpen' filter on your image before 'save for the web'. Never had quality issues using that pipeline.

09-15-2011 10:09 PM #11 index (Member)

try flattening the images and THEN putting together your gif. save them as .jpg since that is the best for size/quality - then try to make a gif using those images you just made. basically, make each layer as small as possible before trying to assemble your gif. flatten them, crop the images, do everything you can.

if you are making a gif out of .pngs with huge images that were never cropped or anything, then your gif is going to be bigger than it's supposed to be.

09-15-2011 10:49 PM #12 patje72 (Member)

Hello,

This is what I love about this forum. I have a problem, and so many of you guys assist. For those who want to try. You can download the original 3 jpegs + 1 .psd here:

http://www.goedkoophotel.eu/banners.rar

09-15-2011 10:55 PM #13 index (Member)

I just popped open ad2-2.jpg and see that it is about 52kb



when I pop it into photoshop, I can decrease th quality all the way down to 23kb just by going to Save for Web and Devices and decreasing the quality down to 70. Here is the result of that.



Make all your layers as small as possible before attempting to make your gif

09-15-2011 11:10 PM #14 patje72 (Member)

@index, your fast. Indeed I can make the jpegs arround 20-25kb and the quality is still OK...but then creating the GIF > 65kb. Lowering settings for the Gif and the result is quality is getting to low. Tried to create the Gif with PS and uLead with both the same results.

09-15-2011 11:37 PM #15 index (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by patje72 View Post
@index, your fast. Indeed I can make the jpegs arround 20-25kb and the quality is still OK...but then creating the GIF > 65kb. Lowering settings for the Gif and the result is quality is getting to low. Tried to create the Gif with PS and uLead with both the same results.
hmmm, I just tried it myself and I see what you mean. My quality sucked when I played with the settings to get it under 50kb. Maybe a Photoshop guru will chime in and let us know where we are going wrong.

Sorry I couldn't help!

09-16-2011 07:18 AM #16 patje72 (Member)

@index, you tried! Thanks for that!
I hope someone will have the solution, or maybe I have to use less colors. I also think dark BG increases the size

09-16-2011 06:09 PM #17 BenPOF ()

Has anyone tested super grainy, low quality banners? This would definitely be in line with the "ugly ads work" theory............................................ ....................... *cough*

09-16-2011 06:12 PM #18 z6marketing (Member)

Again I just want to point out that I make a lot of animated banners and never have issues with size on PoF - and my image quality is never that bad. I don't get it. Maybe my photoshop is magical? (Using CS5 for reference.)

Also, Ben, I'll take you up on that challenge - just tell your minions not to deny my ads for "making our pretty site look ugly". :P

09-16-2011 06:41 PM #19 patje72 (Member)

@Bil...not a change...your "magical-photoshop-quality-improve-filter" will auto convert this into this

Everybody....feel free to test my low quality redhead banner...I am such an PoF noob, I don't have the guts to test in the weekends....yet

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