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[Follow Along] Taking Action - From Traffic To Offers (42)

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Hi All,

Loving the forum and everything it offers so far! I've been in the affiliate marketing space many years ago, but looking to revisit it now. It seems that many things have changed and mobile is now king.

I used to push a lot of lead-gen type offers via email lists - so that may get covered later. But for now, the focus is strictly on mobile. Getting Traffic to offers. Let's keep it basic and take some action here.

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1) Sign up for as many Affiliate Networks as possible
2) Sign up for as many Mobile Traffic sources as possible
3) Find 5 solid offers to test Across Affiliate Networks and Traffic Sources (cross-vertical or same vertical)
4) Build 10+ Angles for the above offers
5) Build 10+ Banners for the above Angles
6) Build 2 LPs for Each Banner
7) Send Traffic To Above Angles/Banners/LPs
8) Test, Test, Test
9) Kill what's not working, ramp up what is working
10) Repeat

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The above may get edited, but it's my loose blueprint. The idea here is to track progress in this thread as I go along.

Working on steps 1 & 2 - currently good to go with Go2Mobi and will probably stick with that for traffic.

F5 still hasn't gotten back to me - I may hit some of the mods here up to see if they can get me in. I'm already a part of Convert2Media and PeerFly, so at least I have some solid networks to start with.

More to come - would love any input!

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Update for today:

I'm now a part of F5 as well as C2M and Peerfly. I'll use these 3 networks to triage offers and test accordingly. Also have my eyes on NeverBlue, so I'd like to sign up for them next.

Poking around the Go2Mobi dashboard - next step will be to deposit some money on here. Still getting my hands dirty and not quite ready to launch a campaign - going to modify the above plan of attack first and will come back once I have an update.

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Hi there

well I am positive your professional background will help you to accommodate yourself fast enough with the new project: mobile

In my opinion, when you now choose which Affiliate Networks to join you should start with those which offer you a variety of verticals for promoting,
especially now when you're still checking out to discover the ones which do best for you.
Two more things you could take into consideration would be: how newbie friendly is the Network and any possible welcome bonuses, which might add you important funds to your revenues.

As per editing your creatives for the campaigns, I would recommend you to take a close look at this amazing thread and remember : 'Affiliate marketing is a visual game as much as it is a text game.' http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...With-Photoshop

Looking forward to hearing some further updates from you !

Cheers,
ilana

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Thanks everyone for all of your initial support! Feeling positive about this new project!

I'm warming up by following carumen's "Appetizer" guide for Go2Mobi. I've tweaked my approach as I now have 5 angles that I'm looking to use. New strategy:

1) Pick 2 of the 5 angles
2) Create 4 banners for each of the above angles
3) Test across networks and traffic sources as much as possible

I also signed up for AdCash and Leadbolt to add to my repertoire. Hopefully I have some creatives up and approved before too long to get this thing crackin'!

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Just a quick update - been a bit busy but still making time to have this happen.

I have offers picked out on F5 - working out the angles. The goal is to have creatives for approval this week.

Also getting a membership to What Runs Where ASAP. This may be very helpful.

Trying to keep this simple - Next step: CREATIVE.

Stay tuned.

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12/21/15 Update:
I got the trial for WRW - not blown away by it. I think it may be a waste of money until I get my feet wet here.

I have my first creatives (4) submitted for approval by the advertiser and also my campaign on Go2Mobi is built and pending approval.

Starting at $30/day. Let's see some traffic, baby!

Note: I am doing SWEEPS/PIN Submit offers for my vertical.

The important thing is I am taking action! Just waiting for traffic, now.

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Quick Update:

First $15 spent and live with my offer and 2 banners. No LP.

I've only received 18 clicks to the offer and 0 conversions. I know it's only $15 spent, but I've already paused the campaign. Time to try a different angle.

So far my angle has been way too straight-forward. Banners = "Take this Survey to Win an iPhone 6S". Offer = Take Surveys to Win iPhone 6S.

This type of straight-forwardness is not going to cut it. Back to the drawing board, I need a more eye-catching angle+banner setup.

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12/22/15 Update

I'm working with a SURVEY giveaway offer.

I have 10 angles ready to go - next step is to create them into unique banners.

From here, I'll test these 10 banners against a few different similar offers to see which one converts first/best. Then, to optimize land.

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12/24/15 Update

Happy holidays - no rest for the wicked

I have 10 new banners up and ready pending approval on Go2Mobi. These are now leading to 2 different Sweeps offers on 2 different Affiliate networks. Going to spend a little bit of change on each to see which converts best, then will proceed accordingly and optimize the fuck out of it.

Let's do this.

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Hi there! Welcome back to the game! Nice start of a follow along.

Regarding banner testing, I find that it's better to have more than one banner for each angle so that you can observe a trend across several banners, which will give each angle a better chance to shine. I like to test at least 3 banners per angle, all with different headlines and sometimes also different images, so that I minimize the risk of accidentally ditching a good angle just because the one banner happens to have a bad image etc.

For sweeps offers I would highly recommend testing landers from the onset. Spy and rip the ones you see being run the most and test them, which will provide you with some benchmark stats that you can then try to beat in subsequent rounds of split testing. Sign up to more aff networks and test more of the same type of offer for that geo. Test more ripped landers and landers created/modified by you.

Excitedly waiting for your next update!


Amy

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Thank you so much for your input Amy! Now that I have 10 banners, I can use the templates for different offers accordingly. How many angles do you recommend testing on an offer before putting more effort towards it?

Right now I'm feeling a bit frustrated - I've made about 15 different banners with ~$100 spend and zero conversions. Clearly the offers I have picked out just aren't converting, or I'm not doing something right. I'm thinking of moving to the BizOpp lead gen offers - do these work with mobile display? Any input appreciated.

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When you said banner templates what are you referring to? Layout? Headlines?

Regarding angles - I like to spend time coming up with many angles, then picking the ones I believe stand a chance and making 3 banners per angle. I like to have at least 5-10+ angles. If it's an international offer I like to test lots of angles. I want to be able to say to myself "I've done my best in coming up with angles - if initial testing doesn't show any promise, I'll ditch the offer because I've done my reasonable best". If I half-ass my research and brainstorming, and only test a couple of lame angles and don't get results, it would be hard to decide whether to continue testing angles or ditch the offer.

That's only for CPI offers though, and ones that are not in "evergreen" niches. For evergreen offer types (e.g. sweeps, antivirus) it may be worth it to try different angles again and again until you "crack the code" so to speak, i.e. discover an angle that works. Evergreen niches are worth the extra time and effort because there's less of a risk of having all your hard work go down the drain when an offer ends, as you can likely find another offer to replace it.

In your case, it's hard to say whether the lack of conversions is due to the offer or your angles. How did you pick the offer?

Yes, based on what I've heard, biz opp offers can work on mobile display. I don't have experience with that vertical though.


Amy

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Hi Amy/@vortex

Thanks so much for your input here

Here's an example of one of the banners/angles I'm using - this is for an iPhone giveaway type offer:



No LP - just leading to the offer. Probably not the best angle, but I'm still surprised at ZERO conversions. Certainly frustrated and I don't want to waste too much money on an offer that isn't converting.

Maybe I"ll continue with this and also test Biz Opp in tandem...But any input is greatly appreciated.

Also, I've been choosing the offers based on TOP OFFERS on the various networks. Still, doesn't seem to be working. Can you shed some light on how you pick offers?

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I think I know what I'm missing. I need a good spy tool. What Runs Where didn't do it for me. What's the best spy tool that allows me to paste in the offer URL and see what others are doing? I need this most simply and easiest...cost isn't a huge concern

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adsxposed has this option where you put the advertiser URL and shows all the affiliates promoting it. BTW, adsxposed works only with popup traffic.

WRW is for display, but pretty useless.

I see others recommending here adplexity, I have no idea how it works, you might have to check it. I'm sure there are threads here on the forum

There could be one more option, Mobile Ad Scout, but lately lots of their users had problems with their support who didn't reply to their email, they couldn't cancel their membership and they got re-billed for one more month some even had to cancel their block their payment from the bank. So you might want to be careful when using MAS

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I just bought AdPlexity and spent the last 2 hours researching offers on there. I must say I am still confused. I was hoping the tool would give better answers than it did, but now I'm not sure where to go...

I'm really not seeing much of anything in the way of Go2Mobi traffic. When I check Smaato traffic (one of the main Go2Mobi exchanges), there's a bit more, but still not a lot. Am I missing something here?

The offers that are showing up don't have a ton of traffic - only a few do. And these look to be dated landers...I guess I'm just not seeing a lot of volume here.

It seems that the main thing I'm seeing here is IPHONE and GIFT CARD giveaways....is this the way to go?? Getting a little frustrated here...

I am thinking the way to success is try TWO verticals (GIveaways, like giftcard/iphone AND BizOpp). Will work with the one that converts first/best and optimize from there. But, this spy tool has be a bit stumped...

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UPDATE:

My last post was a bit disjointed - I was feeling overwhelmed upon the wealth of info that AdPlexity has to offer.

Here's my latest findings:

1) US Offers seem few and far between. International is much more prominent. I'm taking this as a lesson to try International offers.
2) The ad size I was working with also seems not as prominent (320x50). I'm now running 320x50 and 320x480.
3) LPs are prominent, but Direct Linking is still also happening. I'm sticking with DLing until I get my first conversion
4) I'm not seeing much traffic being directed to Go2Mobi or Smaato - there's a lot through many other exchanges and providers. Looks like I may need to sign up for another DSP (Avazu looks promising, but requires $1k depsit - any feedback on here?)
5) CPMs really are cheaper for non-US (so far)

As far as TAKING ACTION:
I'm now trying the app-install vertical as per my research on AdPlexity. 1 campaign is live, 1 is pending, both are international.

Go2Mobi Stats:
2,446 Impressions
46 Clicks
1.88% CTR
0 Conversions
$0.68 Spend

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Still no conversions....I am getting discouraged.

Here's my new process:

1) Spend at least 1 HOUR every day on AdPlexity Spying Ads that ARE WORKING
2) Note the OFFER and the TRAFFIC SOURCE being used
3) Rip the above BANNER + LANDER (no more shortcuts - if they are using a lander, use a lander!)
4) Create ONE variation on the above Banner+LP combo
5) Run both 3 & 4 on the traffic rouse from step 2
6) Repeat Daily until a conversion is made

Is there a flaw in my logic? Is this 'shiny object syndrome'? I'm going to assume that persistence is the key to success here.

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Tough spot! Let's see if we can debug this.

First question and sorry it's so obvious - how are you tracking conversions? Are you checking your affiliate network stats or checking in your tracker? Always worth checking directly on the network to make sure you didn't miss a conversion.

Second - what GEOS are you running? Some GEOS are very competitive or just a pain in the ass to get working.

Third, how many offers have you tested, and from how many networks? Which networks are you running with? Some are better than others...

Finally, have you checked your entire funnel for each angle yourself? It's unlikely but possible that there's a technical problem there.

Your overall strategy looks good, and well done on not taking shortcuts. You'll get there!

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I would also suggest making a test offer just as a potential visitor might do it. Login to a VPN to your GEO, get your campaign's URL from Voluum, make a test lead (now you can also see if there are any potential problems with the offer landers, you'll get a better overview of what the user has to fill out for a conversion to fire) and then you can ask your AM to mark this as test lead (in some systems like Cake I think it's possible something like this).

Anyway, for the app-install campaign you just launched, I think it's too soon to tell. You had just 45 clicks, maybe some of them are bots, so you can't really tell if there's a problem with the offer or not. What is the payout for the offer? You spent just 0.68 which isn't enough to have an idea if it works or not.

If from 100-200 clicks you still get no conversions, then you should start wondering about it: either it's bot traffic clicking your CTA link, either there's a problem with the offer's back-end and the conversions don't fire, or simply the offer isn't appealing, though having 200 people click through your banner means they should have some interest on this.

Also, for this app offer you're direct linking? I know this is considered the fastest and easiest way, but with a spy tool you can rip a lander in a few minutes, modify it in less than 30 minutes and at least you'll know better if the offer converts or not. In most cases, landers increase conversions, so if it doesn't convert with a lander, there are minuscule chances to convert direct-linking (it happens, but rarely, from what I've read).

Anyway, I would focus on sending more traffic to the offer's page first and eventually check if it's bot traffic or not (I think using a lander with an entry javascript alert and an exit alert will block most bots, since they can't click "ok" on these alert windows, I guess).

LE: I just noticed in your latest post you mentioned about considering using a lander. Make sure to use the recommended mods for increasing CTR and CV (intro popup, vibrate, sound, exit popup, call out user's device & location, etc)

Regarding step "6) Repeat Daily until a conversion is made", I would suggest to start investigating the problem if you don't get a conversion after 100-200 clicks, there might be some problem with the conversion tracking. Do a test install first to see if the conversion fires, it makes no sense to spend any more time and money without making sure everything works properly.

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Your decision to do spying first is a great idea, because some offers just CAN'T be quickly tested using direct-linking to gauge potential. It depends on the offer type and how much effort and/or money the required action will take in order for a visitor to complete a conversion. When spying, look to see if your competition (the ones running similar offers in the same vertical) are using a lander or not. If most/all of them are using landers, then there's no reason why you shouldn't start split-testing landers from the beginning.

Also, if the offer has a higher payout, then your initial test budget (for gauging offer potential) will need to be correspondingly higher as well, i.e. you can't run $20's worth of traffic to an offer with a $10 payout and conclude that the offer is bad. Not saying that's what you're doing, but definitely something to consider.

As for how to pick offers - that's a big topic that quite a few experienced members have written threads on. My personal approach is to stick to hot offers recommended by AMs when first breaking into a vertical. This way I can eliminate one unknown, and focus on testing angles without worrying too much that my offer may be a dud (it could still happen of course, which is why I try to split-test hot offers from the start!) However, once I've nailed an angle that at least semi-works, I'll go back and compile a bigger list of similar offers to add to my offer split-testing. At that stage I would not limit myself to top offers lists / AM recommendations. I've uncovered gem offers that nobody else was running and got first-mover's advantage, just by venturing outside of recommended offers.


Amy

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Are you only referring to your research on go2mobi/smaato, or things in general? Generally speaking though:

1)That is no lack of US offers in many niches.

2)320x50 is the most popular mobile ad size AFAIK. However - good move trying 300x250 and 320x480 and other banners that have less (sometimes a LOT less) competition, that still have healthy traffic volumes (you can verify volume by banner size in each geo using go2mobi's ad planner). The bigger size also means you have more real estate to sell to visitors (i.e. include a bigger image that people can actually SEE what's on it for once!)

3)Nice observation! If DLing can work, focusing on testing banners first can speed things up and be more wallet-friendly than testing landers at the same time.

4)I would advise to stick to Go2Mobi until you find an offer + angle combo that has potential before testing other sources. Avazu mDSP has a lot of traffic but can be hit and miss. You can make a lot of money there, but if you're not careful or lack experience you could also lose a ton of money there as well. Definitely not a source I would recommend a newbie to use as a "go-to" source for testing.

5)True that! Although the higher CPM means people are STILL making profits (the high prices were driven to those heights due to competition in the first place), as a new person it would be much better to use a much less competitive geo to learn the ropes first and to make your initial profits.



$0.68 spend is waaaaaay too early to even start looking at stats! What's your offer payout? There aren't many good app offers nowadays. The only ones I heard are doing well, are Avazu's Swift WiFi, and certain ones of the CM locker line of apps. International offers are nice - if you mass test angles, and find one that is generic and effective enough to work across many geos, it would be relatively easy to multiply your profits overnight. My only beef with CPI offers is that too many of them get pulled too soon.


Amy

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First of all - what's your payout and how much money have you spent so far?

Ripping and testing can be extremely effective, but for some app install offers that approach won't work. It really depends on what app it is you're promoting. If it's a really new app, you may not be able to find enough stuff to rip. If it's a really old app (DU battery saver anyone?) then as a newbie you'll NEED to test a ton of your own angles to come up with a new one (or a new spin on an old angle), because most of what you'll see in spy tools are outdated angles that are probably only working for affiliates that have optimized other parts of their funnel (doing volume and on the best payout, split-tested offers from various aff networks to find the best converting one, already cut out bad placements / OSs / devices / carriers / etc., doing dayparting....)

And I'd highly recommend sticking to one go-to traffic source for app installs. Go2mobi works well. If you're sure the offer is a good one (i.e. there are many people doing volume), then just focus on testing different angles in your banners and landers until you find something that works. We have an entire forum section on angles - please see here.

Have fun!


Amy

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1/5/16 UPDATE:

Apologies for the delay - I've had family in town from 12/29 until yesterday, so I am just now getting my life back in order. I'll provide a more comprehensive update later, but the good news is - I got my first conversion! Two in fact!

$60 in spend to yield $9.60 in revenue...Certainly not a winning forumula, but at the very least I've found an offer that converts. I'm going to run with this bad boy.

@Vortex /Amy - thank you SO much for all of the assistance here! It's good to hear that Go2Mobi is a good source - so I'll continue to work at it. My next steps will be to start including tracking (Voluum) as well as Landing Pages (utilizing BeyondHosting for a VPS service). I'm not quite there yet - but those are the next steps. For now, I want to work this offer and see what I can do with it

@carumen - since I now have conversions, I think we are good here. As for geos - currently trying Eastern Europe and Brazil

@md2882 - I will implement LPs soon as I'm sure this will increase conversion rates. More spying and testing to come.

More updates to come - thanks again for the assistance guys!

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1/7/16 UPDATE

Getting crushed at my actual job - so having a hard time with time management. The upcoming weekend should help.

Currently I'm going to take my game to the next level and focus on the Mobile Cookbook - main course. This means introducing Voluum and Landing Pages.

In order to force myself to get progress done on this project, I'm going to work on it at a MINIMUM of one hour each day. This should yield results. Deciding on when this hour is, but will hopefully have more updates before too long.

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1/8/16 UPDATE

I will not let this kick my ass. I will kick it's ass!

I completed my first 'hour of power' yesterday - got some solid spying done. I now have 4 LPs and about 10 banners to rip. Some current challenges:

The offer is clicking through to a blank page - I'm unsure if this was the case when I originally had the 2 conversions. I'm checking in with my AM about this
The LPs are all in a foreign language and contain scripts that look to display a user's phone model based on their phone. I simply went in the HTML file of the LP and changed "Samsung" or "Galaxy" to "Phone" in an effort to make it more generic. I'm concerned that there may be deeper scripts here that I don't know of, but they preview fine. I also replaced their aff link with my own
Tracking - I need to learn Voluum so I can finally launch my first campaign with rotating LPs and testing against direct linking

It feels like an uphill battle right now...But I'm refusing to give up. Will have another 'hour of power' tonight and focus on spying for more ads, and potentially getting my hands dirty with Voluum.

Any/all input appreciated.

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Just finished another 'hour of power' - got some solid work done:

-Signed up for Beyond Hosting Starter VPS (if anyone needs a 50% discount code they are available on this forum!)
-Ripped a few more landers and banners - feeling good about some of these
-Purchased a VPN (HideMyAss) to confirm my offer is clicking through, and to ensure spying is done effectively
-Read some preliminary guides on Voluum - will be purchasing and diving in tomorrow hopefully

Next hour is scheduled for tomorrow - will provide updates ASAP. Any and all input always appreciated.

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@nebraska if you aff network is on cake..you should be able to login to network after you setup your postback...and ping your landing page from the network to confirm you got it setup correctly.

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Thanks atlmarketer...I believe I have my postback URL all set up correctly in my offer at this point, but going to be testing soon....

1/10 UPDATE

Just finished some more time on this project...Happy to announce that I have 5 LPs hosted on BeyondHosting, and I just set up my first campaign in Voluum. The guide that Charles Ngo has on this is very helpful (http://charlesngo.com/voluum-campaign-setup/)

I was confused by one part - and I may just be misunderstanding. For step 5 - he mentions (http://charlesngo.com/voluum-campaign-setup/) "Now we're going to set up our landing page". Is he simply explaining that nothing further needs to be done at this point? He mentions that you should "Take the URL, and put it where you want the user to click on your landing page". I'm not sure I followed this - but regardless, I have a campaign URL that now seems to be rotating between my LPs and a direct link.

Next step will be to send some traffic to this bad boy and let 'er rip!

One roadblock is that the landers/banners I've ripped are all in a foreign language...so its' hard for me to tweak angles and such when I don't really even know what it says...but I'll worry about this after sending some traffic.

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When it comes to translating landing pages, depending on your browser Google Chrome can automatically translate the lander to your desired language. You'll just have to manually change up the wording in your GEO. Funny enough, once you work with a GEO for quite a while you start to pickup on the language and understand what some of the words mean

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Quick Update:

Campaign is now LIVE - set at $30/day spend while we warm it up. Voluum is locked and loaded. 19 banners, 5 LPs - split testing between Direct Linking and the 5 LPs, as well as the 19 banners. From here, I'm going to just wait for conversions then see if we can optimize this baby to high heaven.

Quick virgin Voluum shot:
http://i.imgur.com/3neIubQ.png

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I've run into a small issue - 2 of the LP's that I've ripped seem to now be malfunctioning after introducing Voluum into the mix. I'm seeing {device_vendor} and {device_model} displayed on the LP (and in a pop up script) where it wasn't before. Since I straight up ripped these LPs, I don't really know how to proceed besides ditching them.

Can anyone advise? Below is a screenshot of how my LP has been altered, where before it just said "Android" (I hard-coded that in).

I'm thinking I'll just rip the main page of this and then add in my own dynamic scripts eventually, but for now this is a bit of a pain...

http://i.imgur.com/8sA53ej.png

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Now the current issue I am having is with....Voluum!

I'm seeing 68 "Visits" in Voluum, but 2,344 impressions and 57 clicks in Go2Mobi.

Do "Visits" in Voluum correspond with "Clicks" in Go2Mobi?

Does Go2Mobi track impressions, or just clicks and conversions?

Perhaps I missed something in setup...

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I've confirmed with Voluum that it IS possible to track impressions, it just takes a bit more effort.

Do you guys all track impressions with Voluum? Or just clicks/conversions?

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Another setback - my campaign was recently rejected by Go2Mobi - I think my LP was too aggressive (anti-virus LP that says your android has a virus). Time to find a new offer + angle. I'm going to spend my next sessions finding more offers because I'm not sure I'm sold on this one - perhaps I'll try it more, but I'd like to have more converting offers under my belt as well.

Some roadblocks here, but I'll get through them.

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1/12/16 UPDATE

Honestly, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed and stuck right now. I suppose this is all part of the process - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

My issue is I thought I had a great offer to run - but after ripping LPs and having my campaign rejected, I'm at a bit of a loss. Also, since I'm now paying for hosting & Voluum, as well as forum subsriptions, time is ticking to take advantage of these things.

I'm trying to make a game plan here - any input appreciated:

1) Take a step back and go back to Direct Linking the offer - just to see if we can get some conversions again. From here, look to building my own, compliant, landing pages (or, run them on a different traffic source).

2) Spy for more offers to test - potentially in different verticals - so I don't run into compliance issues

3) Take a deep breath, and continue taking action

Part of me wants to ditch this project and focus on my e-comm business, but I also should not give up this easily. Perhaps if I spend another $1-2k with no results, but for now, I can't give up.

Feeling discouraged, though! Any inspiration is appreciated.

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Regarding tokens like {device_vendor} and {device_model} - you'll need to set up Voluum tokens correctly for the landing pages to display the visitor's devices and models. This detailed guide by caurmen (and part 2 of the same) will tell you everything you need to know:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ing-Parameters


Amy

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You are correct - "Visits" in Voluum correspond with "Clicks" in G2M. It's only when a visitor clicks on your ad, that your voluum link is triggered. Voluum can't track how many impressions your ads got.

G2M can track impressions and clicks. Conversions will be tracked by the affiliate network of your offer (or the advertiser if you're running the offer direct with them), which will then post conversions back to voluum, which in turn will post conversions to G2M if you've set up the G2M postback link in voluum.


Amy

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We can use voluum to track impressions? That's news to me! Would love to learn how to do that if you wouldn't mind explaining!


G2M is pretty strict about misleading creatives or images showing excessive skin. If you want to go aggressive, pop traffic may be easier, because most pop sources are a lot more slack than mobile display sources in terms of creative approval. You'll also want to check with the affiliate network of the offer on whether aggressive is allowed. If the advertiser forbids it and you're caught, your commission can be withheld.


Amy

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Exactly! The learning curve is steep, but if we stick with it long enough, and keep testing different things and learning through experience and analyses, sooner or later we'll find something that works.


Even the pros will sometimes get campaigns rejected. It's all a part of the process. It's actually a good thing. If you never get rejected, you're probably playing too safe. The trick is to push the boundaries a little, by trying to get borderline-acceptable creatives approved. When you do get something borderline approved, it can perform really well. In addition, there are actually mobile ad exchanges that will allow aggressive creatives (maybe not the exchanges available through G2M, but on some of the other mobile display networks). You can test by submitting camps to different exchanges, or use spy tools to identify aggressive creatives and see where they are run. The second method can be hit-and-miss, because some people may just be cloaking, meaning the aggressive creative was not actually approved by the network. But at least the spy tool can narrow things down for you.


Spending a lot of money in the beginning before hitting on a profitable campaign is normal in this industry. For something that has the potential of making 5 figures in profits a day, any amount of money "lost" in the process can be justified, as long as a person keeps testing and learning until he can make profits consistently. If you need inspiration, I would highly recommend that you read some of the success stories here:

http://stmforum.com/forum/forumdispl...uccess-Stories

The one common denominator in most of the biggest success stories is perseverance. At least that's my observation.

We just need to accept the fact that most of what we test will not work, and have faith that when we do find something profitable, that it will make up for all the losses from before and more. One of stackman's posts has been a great inspiration to me:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...obile-Campaign

With all his experience, connections, and information channels, stackman "only" found 3 offers that had potential, after testing 30 offers.

But by scaling the best offer, he could get to 4-figures/day in a relatively short time - which I'd imagine should more than recoup the amount of money spent in testing all of the other offers.

Your plan sounds very sensible. I do hope to see a next update, and am rooting for your success. Hang in there my friend!


Amy

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