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Germany Dating/PUA - Creating an Info Product Empire (8)

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Hey hey guys

Now after almost a year I am back to this forum. I already got my tickets for AWA 2015, looking forward to flying to Bangkok soon

For now I am in Ko Samui if anyone is around?

I have had my first greater successes in arbitrage with jennatalia’s method back in november 2014. Great and now after one year you are still posting in that thread! Loving your progress

I looked for a traffic source from August with a test budget of about 300 € and then I found a traffic source that was profitable from the spot. December was about 1000 € profit.

As my profits went down and the campaigns got destroyed by beginning of this year, I started to put my effort in the development of a product in the PUA market for Germany. As I wanted to take my efforts away from arbitrage to creating a product I control.

So I partnered up with someone who writes the texts, records the videos and audios. We create the LPs and Ads together. I am doing the tracking and media buying.

By now we already have a couple of high converting VSLs+SLs that are selling video courses, ebooks and audios.

They sell well to our list. We could only sell 1 with cold traffic yet via taboola. FB wouldn't allow our VSLs

So the current business is: collect leads for our list -> sell them stuff via mail.

We have built a list of about 1100 with mostly Facebook traffic.

In total, spent 5058,13 € in Advertising on FB this year. FB seems to like our Ads and LPs. We have not had complains yet. Some LPs were disabled, but the support was helpful to tell us exactly what was wrong with the LP.

So we could alter and eventually got the ads+LPs running.

We have had the highest conversion with fake newspaper article landers so far.

Our ads + landers are not scammy and we are not selling anything until they sign up.

I am now beginning with this follow along, because I want to know how to get cheaper leads with FB. I can imagine that I am overlooking something here. Also you might have additional insights in what is not running correctly here.

For the tracking, I am using Thrive, but I consider trying out FunnelFlux as it looks very promising.

This is just the initial thread about the endeavor.

Will post about the results in tracking and others in the following threads.

PS: if someone is also going to AWA and wants to meet up with us just shoot me a massage.

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Thanks for sharing your experience - looking forward to seeing your results!

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FunnelFlux may work better for you for such complex multi stage funnels.

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Yes now the tracking is done with FunnelFlux starting this month. It can even track buyers and leads FOREVER in our campaigns

Launched a few new campaigns that look quite promising so far. Don't have the stats ready now, gotta do some number crunching in spreadsheets...

Had a new funnel ready beginning of this month and already after a few days we were breaking even on the frontend.

The past days have even been profitable,

BUT I can't get the placements with lots of traffic to convert and scale massively to just bank.

Will get back to you with more stats when they are ready.

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For some reason there were no conversions after Tuesday until now.

How can it be that nobody has bought from Wednesday until now?

Banner Blindness? but I am switiching the banners.
Trust issues?
Traffic quality decreased?

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There a few possible reasons :

1. is everything working fine, is the billing working? Its weird that you have been able to sell until now and then it stopped. How many sales are we talking about actually, if it was like 1 sale per day for a few days and than nothing for a few days, that happens sometimes.

2. are you running in a rather small spot? If so, its possible you already converted most of those who were interested and the CVR will go down now a lot.

3. check how deep in the bidding chain you are. A decrease in CVR is very often connected with loosing the RIGHT spot in the chain.

4. CVR also changes from day to day, but since this is about several days in a row, the issue will be somewhere else.

These are the most obvious reasons that came to my mind.

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I would love to see the kind of ads you are running on FB, erfolgskompass . I thought they are pretty strict on dating ads?

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Yes the billing works. It was between 1 and 4 sales

It is not that small actually...

maybe I lost the RIGHT spot, gonna check

Hmm...

I will have a look what I can do as I a am not alone in this business I have to double check how much information I can disclose here.

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