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[Braindump] 5 Years Worth of Aggregate Affiliate Marketing Notes (32)


11-10-2015 08:58 PM #1 phillian (Moderator)
[Braindump] 5 Years Worth of Aggregate Affiliate Marketing Notes

Over the years I’ve kept a running log of notes from blogs, forums, or conversations I found useful or wrote to myself. It's about 70,000 words in a word doc. 9,000 in a Workflowy list.

And I’ve distilled the most evergreen among them - about 2400 words - to share with you here, now.

(Where I have the source I’ve cited it - most of this is not my work. But I never took notes with the intention of republishing them so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Apologies in advance.)

On Starting




On Picking a Vertical/ Niche




Competitive Advantages


4 Major Competitive Advantages / Moats:
  1. Network / Advertiser Relationships - having access to higher payouts, higher caps, and exclusive offers.
  2. Traffic Source Expertise & Relationships - expertise on a traffic source, credit lines, access to exclusive placements.
  3. Teams & Systems - increases your speed of execution and ability to scale.
  4. Better Technology Infrastructure - less click loss, faster rendering LPs convert better.

^ Equally important: creatives are not a competitive advantage. They’re the easiest part of your business to replicate by competitors.


On Creatives (Ads & Landing Pages)




On Traffic




Expanding your Margins

Increasing conversion rates (reducing drop off) at several points along your funnel (offer+banner+LP+path) will have a compounding effect.

Things to fix in your offer+banner+LP+path campaign:



On Scaling



Vertical vs Horizontal Campaign Scaling

Vertical

Horizontal


Easy way to find more horizontal display inventory once you have a working creative / offer combination




Payments & Money Management




On Outsourcing / Systems




On Risk




On Media Buying




Deeper Cuts / Final Notes


11-10-2015 09:05 PM #2 nt2000 (Member)

This is gold.


11-10-2015 09:15 PM #3 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Holy Moly! This is amazing!


11-10-2015 09:18 PM #4 frshprince (AMC Alumnus)

awesome post~ i have to admit im only applying a fraction of these principles... Reflecting that i have many areas to develop more! Thanks for the reality check!


11-10-2015 11:18 PM #5 zander (Member)

As someone just recently attempting to break into the industry, I can't thank you enough for these notes! Lots of great tips that'll save other new guys tonnes of time and money.


11-11-2015 12:26 AM #6 bobliu (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by phillian View Post
[*]Jason’s post on how to work a tradeshow (to find traffic) is five years old and still relevant.
Worked with A4D a few years back and met Jason, a brilliant guy always providing nuggets! I remember reading this way back when, thanks for the refresh!


11-11-2015 12:51 AM #7 Tim King (Member)

Love this post, so much good info. Props for the share!


11-11-2015 09:19 AM #8 zeno (Administrator)

Awesome stuff!

And a cordial welcome from all of STM to our newest mod!


11-11-2015 09:44 AM #9 caurmen (Administrator)

Welcome to the STM mod team! And wow, what an entrance!

This is a hell of a post. Think I know what's top of the newsletter next week...


11-11-2015 09:54 AM #10 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Hi Phillian! Welcome to the STM mod team! Talk about starting with a bang!

Post bookmarked for repeated future reference lol!

Looking forward to more posts by you!


Amy


11-11-2015 01:05 PM #11 Mr Green (Administrator)

You can tell Phillian is one of the O.G's of AM!


11-11-2015 07:00 PM #12 musketeer (Member)

Lots of good info! But spending 100k to make 10k is suicide. Rather go to the casino with 5k and try to double up. Less risk.


11-11-2015 07:26 PM #13 miteshmuley (AMC Alumnus)

Nice post phillian.


11-11-2015 07:51 PM #14 dennis (Member)

And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.


11-11-2015 10:11 PM #15 egorpe (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dennis View Post
And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.

But what I really like to know from you is now you know all this, did you make it go the large green?
Most of the time knowledge is useless. Not completely but mostly. Unless you do shit with your own mind and body, you don't learn anything. Try to learn some martial art by "knowing" how to punch.

I "know" how to trade Forex, the theory, MetaTrader software, etc. I haven't placed a single trade though. Do I really know how to trade Forex?

One hour of doing replaces one month of "learning".

Even conferences are only useful for networking.


11-11-2015 10:20 PM #16 roryltm (AMC Alumnus)

And this is why you join STM. Thanks!


11-11-2015 10:37 PM #17 phillian (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by musketeer View Post
Lots of good info! But spending 100k to make 10k is suicide. Rather go to the casino with 5k and try to double up. Less risk.
It's certainly not the only way to make 5 figures in a day, but when Smaxor first wrote this a few years ago I wrote it down because it was a lightbulb moment for me. (Namely, how massive the opportunities were if you have a converting offer path).

That aside - there are many, many businesses that operate on a 10% gross profit margin. Or less.


11-11-2015 10:48 PM #18 musketeer (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by phillian View Post
It's certainly not the only way to make 5 figures in a day, but when Smaxor first wrote this a few years ago I wrote it down because it was a lightbulb moment for me. (Namely, how massive the opportunities were if you have a converting offer path).

That aside - there are many, many businesses that operate on a 10% gross profit margin. Or less.
Completely agree @ many businesses operate at 10%. But with media buying so many things can go wrong day to day between your traffic source, your host, your network/direct offer and their banking and/or client that you could get flushed out in no time running on a margin that low with a spend that high. especially since stopping a campaign that big can be very hard and finding another home for 100k in traffic if it can't be stopped (direct buy) is another story.

Great post though, thought provoking 👍


11-12-2015 12:09 AM #19 phillian (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dennis View Post
And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.
Wanted to address your concerns with some honesty.

I've built and now sold companies (where affiliate commissions are just one slice of a larger revenue pie) so I guess by most standards, yes I've done large numbers.
But am I still hungry to do much more? Yes.
And could I have done them much sooner, or done larger numbers, if I had taken massive action earlier? Yes. I think so.

I relate to what you're saying and your frustration. I was perfectly poised - right information, right connections, right timing - to have done much, much more early on. And I didn't... because I was stuck in endless analysis paralysis loops. I read every blog. Every forum. Went to the major conferences. But until I got focused on doing the thing that makes businesses run (for this business it's building campaigns) I was just spinning my wheels. Spreading myself thin, throwing stuff at a wall, jumping from offer to offer, traffic source to traffic source. I wasted months, maybe years, of amazing opportunity.

Don't be this me.

Back to you - there is still so much more room for growth ahead in this industry.

And there is a lifetime of opportunity ahead for you if you can acquire the skillset to make something work here.

There's a multiplier effect once you cross the chasm from solo affiliate to business owner or joint ventures, from $0.40 payouts to direct/ rev-share partnerships, or owning the offer / network / site. The skillset that makes a good affiliate is incredibly useful beyond CPA campaigns - you have deep expertise in user acquisition, sales/ lead funnel optimization, risk management, and - probably the least-acknowledged but most valuable skill of all - self-discipline.

Those skills, well-applied, are XX,XXX,XXX valuable to the marketplace. That's probably conservative.

It's not my business to give you unsolicited advice but if I were to go back in time and advise myself circa 2007, I'd say ingest and live by the advice in this thread- particularly this post by Stackman- focus. And apply it. That's really it.


11-13-2015 05:00 PM #20 duck_noodle (AMC Alumnus)

omg. 6 week course sums into 1 post. surprised surprised O_O another ghostress in AM


11-13-2015 05:25 PM #21 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by duck_noodle View Post
omg. 6 week course sums into 1 post. surprised surprised O_O another ghostress in AM
It is 5 years condensed into 1 post. Just brilliant.


11-14-2015 02:10 PM #22 stackman (Administrator)

This is pretty much the cliff notes of affiliate marketing! Awesome post

Your outsourcing points are spot on, and it's my greatest mistake off all time while in this industry. If i was more confident with hiring/outsourcing from day 1, i would have made 2-3x more money overall! Mainly because i would have been milking every campaign.


11-14-2015 06:22 PM #23 duck_noodle (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
It is 5 years condensed into 1 post. Just brilliant.
indeed! i'm referring to 6WAMC heheh, i see her there too but keep silence


11-18-2015 03:22 AM #24 mex1can (Member)

Thank you, thank you, thank you!


11-18-2015 04:01 AM #25 t33media (Member)

Thank you and Good read, I feel many of us can relate to your point of views


12-02-2015 12:50 AM #26 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
You can tell Phillian is one of the O.G's of AM!
No kidding ... just an awesome post.


12-02-2015 10:37 AM #27 cbrughmans (Member)

This write up is GOLD for every affiliate.

Adding to that already very extensive list:

Attend at least three international affiliate marketing fairs (ASW/ASE, AWA, DMEXCO, GDC, Leadscon, etc) per year. You learn way more during those fairs in just a few days than by reading here for months. Its not only the knowledge you acquire at these fairs - but mostly the people, contacts and relationships you build. This will eventually lead to guarantueed success.


12-05-2015 04:33 PM #28 barman ()

Great post phillian. "Learn by doing, not by reading." is the key point. You can read and analyze till you're blue in the face but until you're dealing with live visitors and paying customers then theory and someone else's experience that you've read about doesn't matter


04-10-2016 06:17 PM #29 jgesilde (Member)

Great article! It's always great to go back a review the fundamentals to be sure we are staying on track. We can never read the right stuff too many times.

I love how this article is a quick checklist for experienced marketers and a wonderful blueprint for those of you just starting off.

This part is gold: 4 Major Competitive Advantages / Moats:
Network / Advertiser Relationships - having access to higher payouts, higher caps, and exclusive offers.
Traffic Source Expertise & Relationships - expertise on a traffic source, credit lines, access to exclusive placements.
Teams & Systems - increases your speed of execution and ability to scale.
Better Technology Infrastructure - less click loss, faster rendering LPs convert better.

Thanks!


06-19-2019 07:29 PM #30 rms_smr (Member)

This article is Gold for New Affiliates. @phillian puts the 70,000 words on the topic


10-27-2019 07:31 PM #31 lukeexperience (Member)

What a great post!
Many good insights here

Get inspired and take action.
Block by block.... even Rome wasn't built in a day!

Quote Originally Posted by phillian View Post
And there is a lifetime of opportunity ahead for you if you can acquire the skillset to make something work here.


10-28-2019 03:30 AM #32 erikgyepes (Moderator)

One of my favourite threads on STM just got bumped.

Time to reread again after 4 years!


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