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11-10-2015 08:58 PM
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phillian (Moderator)
[Braindump] 5 Years Worth of Aggregate Affiliate Marketing Notes
Over the years I’ve kept a running log of notes from blogs, forums, or conversations I found useful or wrote to myself. It's about 70,000 words in a word doc. 9,000 in a Workflowy list.
And I’ve distilled the most evergreen among them - about 2400 words - to share with you here, now.
(Where I have the source I’ve cited it - most of this is not my work. But I never took notes with the intention of republishing them so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Apologies in advance.)
On Starting
On Picking a Vertical/ Niche
- Someone is making the offer work or it wouldn't be there. Your job is to find out who it is and to do a better job than them.
- Focus your efforts on a single vertical at first. Do your research but keep it concentrated.
- Work in a large/ evergreen vertical - don’t fear the competition. It means there's money to be made.
- Do your homework. Research landing pages, offers, traffic, contacts. Absolute fundamentals you must understand: the intent of the user when they see your ad, how/ when the offer converts, and how the offer is being monetized by the end advertiser.
- First mover advantage is huge- first movers are market makers. They will reap the largest share of profits.
- Never be the last one in or out of a niche. Get in hot niches before the margins dry up and the market becomes saturated. Get out before too much heat is on or margins get ridiculously slim.
- Alternative perspective: “Pick offers that not a lot of people are running or have access to and have a limited cap where, if you fill it, no one else can compete.”
- “I stopped running every offer. I used to run 4-6 verticals at a time, now I focus on 1-2 and make them large. Once I started doing this (I was a 1 man operation) I was able to scale my verticals much bigger than when I was trying to focus on tons of campaigns. I contend it is better to be one of the top players in a niche instead of being a small to mid-size player in several.” - Brandon Adcock
Competitive Advantages
- "Be prepared to strike up a line of communication with the merchant, or your affiliate manager, so that you can establish which SubIDs are backing out at the merchant's end. It's such an easy email to send, and yet so few affiliates actually do it. This is one variable that dictates whether you have a future on the offer. Why would you hide from it?" @FinchSells
4 Major Competitive Advantages / Moats:
- Network / Advertiser Relationships - having access to higher payouts, higher caps, and exclusive offers.
- Traffic Source Expertise & Relationships - expertise on a traffic source, credit lines, access to exclusive placements.
- Teams & Systems - increases your speed of execution and ability to scale.
- Better Technology Infrastructure - less click loss, faster rendering LPs convert better.
^ Equally important: creatives are not a competitive advantage. They’re the easiest part of your business to replicate by competitors.
On Creatives (Ads & Landing Pages)
- Host your landers with a CDN for faster load speeds. Speed is really, really important to your conversion rate. Here’s why. And here.
- If you need to use php for your lander host on a server as close to the intended visitor as you can. Ex: European offers on a DE server; Asian offers on a SG or AU server, etc.
- Affiliate Marketing rule of thumb: keep it simple. Simple (and even ugly) converts. Complicated stuff, hardly.
- Split test lots of ad copy vs lists. (Across a few thousand lead gen campaigns lots of ad copy has been the consistent winner).
- “Use flags in your ads and landing pages. People in foreign countries see un-targeted ads and offers all the time. If someone is in Russia and the ad has a Russian flag, it lets them know the ad is for them.” - Charles Ngo
- “Typically the smartest person in the room at something is the person that tested the most things.” - @Smaxor
- Imitate, then innovate.
- "If you're beating the competition you should innovate to hold your dominance. If you are being beaten, you should steal to catch up." - @hlyghst
- Try to rotate 2 winning landing pages at all time. Introduce one new landing page per week to gather new data and introduce a surprise into the market.
- Banner / Design TIp: Have a person/ people on your page have them looking at what you want your user to do. Ex: looking at the button you want the user to click.
- 24 Ad Design Split Tests to try [Infographic]
On Traffic
- “Just being efficient with your traffic will give you a huge edge over your competition.
- >>Use Exit Pops
- >>If your bounce rate is 60% you aren't monetizing 60% of your traffic.
- >>You can get a lift of 10-20% with an exit pop. Send them to another landing page that compliments the one you are running. Or go directly to the offer when they try to exit.
- >>Test pop-over email opt-ins vs sidebar email opt-ins.
- >>Use georedirects to match a user's location with an applicable offer.
- Upsell existing customers. Many times there are offers that will compliment the one you are running, why pay for traffic to get a user to complete 1 action when you can get them to complete 2 or 3?” - Brandon Adcock
- “If you can use and control a lot of high quality traffic you can always find something to put in front of it to make money.” - @Smaxor
- Once you have the spend, focus on traffic sources that required less oversight/ daily optimization and yield much higher sales volumes. Blacklisting placements / sites is tedious and time-consumptive. If you focus on spending money with large inventory networks where less oversight is needed - you free your time to pursue other large impact opportunities.
Expanding your Margins
Increasing conversion rates (reducing drop off) at several points along your funnel (offer+banner+LP+path) will have a compounding effect.
Things to fix in your offer+banner+LP+path campaign:
- narrowing down and improving CTRs on best performing banners
- narrowing down and improving CTRs on best performing pages
- narrowing down to the highest performing offer with which landing page version
- getting a bump on the offer payout
- getting a special bump due to quality / volume performance
- lower traffic bids
- find cheaper traffic
- targeting only the best performing ad units and ad placements
- day parting and or week parting the campaign
- tighter targeting options from the ad network
- Don’t be afraid to trade Net$ for Scale
On Scaling
- "I want to test spend $10,000 - $20,000 looking for the golden goose. Them, when I find it, I want to be able to spend $100,000 - $150,000/ day to make $10,000 - 20,000 per day." - Smaxor
- After you find traffic sources that work for your campaign, your goal should be to minimize competition and maximize exposure. You want to find ways to keep your competition out and scale your campaign to get maximum volume.
- Make multiple accounts. On some self-serve ad networks you can make multiple accounts and run your ads simultaneously, forcing out competition.
- Outbid your competition. If your ROI is very high, start bidding a little higher to get more volume and force competitors out.
- Prebuy the adspace. If you are buying reserved inventory and it is working out, start locking it down by purchasing more and more of it for future days.
- Ask for exclusivity. When you find a place that works, say you will pay more, more frequently, or prepay if they don’t allow anyone else to advertise what you’re advertising with them.
- “It’s better to dominate one/ a few very large traffic sources than run a little bit on every source you can find. Play around with some ad platforms, get good at them, choose the ones you like, and then figure out the tricks to dominate them. There are so many places to purchase ads right now, it is a matter of find what works for you and scaling.”
Vertical vs Horizontal Campaign Scaling
Vertical
- Increase budget on your current campaign (assuming there’s inventory). Outbid the competition.
- Roll out more campaigns (new angles/ creatives) on current traffic source
- Create more accounts on this traffic source
Horizontal
- New traffic sources
- New markets (geos)
- Related Tip (c/o Zeno) -> Drop a FB conversion tracking code on… anything. Will help you identify what traffic sources may be appropriate to target next to reach lookalike audiences (Facebook Audience Insights is a wealth of demographic data).
Easy way to find more horizontal display inventory once you have a working creative / offer combination
- Head to Alexa's Top Sites by country identify the top X sites in your geo with lots of display ads.
- Install / Load Ghostery [Chrome] [Firefox]
- Load the top sites in that geo with the extension/ plugin activated. Record ad networks running scripts on site.
- Super easy way to discover niche in-country ad networks (with much less expensive CPMs, in some cases) you wouldn't otherwise know about.
Payments & Money Management
- The lower your testing budget the fewer the available variables you can test.
- Get on weeklies with your network as soon as you can. If you can't, keep trying. Find an offer on a network or direct that will pay weekly.
- Figure out how much money you need to float you until you're getting paid (10 days = weekly payments = 7 days of traffic +3 days to get paid out, or 45 = 30 days of traffic +15 days waiting for a check). This at least gives you a good baseline of how much you really need.
- Always do direct deposit where possible or wires (there are fees). Even Paypal (expect 3 day delays between money going back and forth with your Paypal).
- The faster you get paid, the smaller your cash flow problems are.
- Get a CPA, don’t be cheap. You get what you pay for and a good one will pay for itself very quickly.
- “Getting rich isn't so difficult. But if you want to stay rich, then pay your taxes and don't milk the cow without reporting it. End of lecture.” - “How to Get Rich” by Felix Dennis
- “Don’t try and be a baller, save your money. Bank hard now, save, and then live the rest of your life off the interest your savings earns. This means that you should try and live below your means. It’s okay to reward yourself - just don’t do it all the time and don’t do it when you can’t afford to.” - Brandon Adcock
On Outsourcing / Systems
- Focus your time on high value tasks. Automate. What you can’t automate, outsource.
- Tim Tetra on 80/20’ing your time (from 13:20 on in the vid)
- ^ “Never do anything that someone else can be doing who values their time less than you.”
- Step By Step Guide to Outsourcing by Bbrock32
- "I would rather earn 1% off 100 people's efforts than 100% of my own efforts." -John D. Rockefeller
On Risk
- Risk (taking and managing them) is what separates the largest players in the industry {screenshot from Brandon Adcock's now defunct blog}:

- What will you do if the traffic source dries up, or if the offer goes down?
- >>Have a backup plan.
- >>Know how to make or acquire multiple accounts (FB, etc.)
- >>Get a proxy / separate VPS / computers
- Pick a vertical to become an expert in that has several offers you can rotate in case one goes down.
On Media Buying
- Facebook is easily the best tool for learning demographic data. So important, and so useful, before you do large I/Os and private site media buys.
- Take some time and build your company a professional site. Having a professional business site / LinkedIn profile massively helps for direct site media buys.
- Focus on the Alexa Top 500 sites for finding inventory in your target country.
- Media Buys are always negotiable. Prepaying or signing a larger I/O is an easy way to get much cheaper rates, as much as 50% off. Ask for a 48 hour out clause and if the traffic sucks, exercise it. If it doesn’t - you got a cheap rate.
- To win direct-site buys, fire out a lot of emails, but always follow up with a phone call. Making a personal connection/ building relationships is how you’ll get discounts.
Deeper Cuts / Final Notes
- Jason’s post on how to work a tradeshow (to find traffic) is five years old and still relevant.
- Finch’s Premium Posts are the best TL;DR on what's working now if you want to come up to speed without reading an entire forum.
- Affiliate marketing isn’t the end game for most people, but beyond the near-term income, it is an extremely valuable skillset for whatever business you end up building down the road. Ian Fernando does a good job of explaining why in this 8 minute vid.
- Mr. Green dispenses great advice on how to turn your business into a saleable asset in this thread. [See also: just about everything cmdeal has ever written - but start here.]
- "There's a myth that time is money. In fact, time is more precious than money. It's a nonrenewable resource. Once you've spent it, and if you've spent it badly, it's gone forever." - Neil Fiore
11-10-2015 09:05 PM
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nt2000 (Member)
This is gold.
11-10-2015 09:15 PM
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cmdeal (Veteran Member)
Holy Moly! This is amazing!
11-10-2015 09:18 PM
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frshprince (AMC Alumnus)
awesome post~ i have to admit im only applying a fraction of these principles... Reflecting that i have many areas to develop more! Thanks for the reality check!
11-10-2015 11:18 PM
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zander (Member)
As someone just recently attempting to break into the industry, I can't thank you enough for these notes! Lots of great tips that'll save other new guys tonnes of time and money.
11-11-2015 12:26 AM
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bobliu (Member)

Originally Posted by
phillian
Worked with A4D a few years back and met Jason, a brilliant guy always providing nuggets! I remember reading this way back when, thanks for the refresh!
11-11-2015 12:51 AM
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Tim King (Member)
Love this post, so much good info. Props for the share!
11-11-2015 09:19 AM
#8
zeno (Administrator)
Awesome stuff!
And a cordial welcome from all of STM to our newest mod!
11-11-2015 09:44 AM
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caurmen (Administrator)
Welcome to the STM mod team! And wow, what an entrance!
This is a hell of a post. Think I know what's top of the newsletter next week...
11-11-2015 09:54 AM
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vortex (Senior Moderator)
Hi Phillian! Welcome to the STM mod team! Talk about starting with a bang!
Post bookmarked for repeated future reference lol!
Looking forward to more posts by you!
Amy
11-11-2015 01:05 PM
#11
Mr Green (Administrator)
You can tell Phillian is one of the O.G's of AM!
11-11-2015 07:00 PM
#12
musketeer (Member)
Lots of good info! But spending 100k to make 10k is suicide. Rather go to the casino with 5k and try to double up. Less risk.
11-11-2015 07:26 PM
#13
miteshmuley (AMC Alumnus)
Nice post phillian.
11-11-2015 07:51 PM
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dennis (Member)
And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.
11-11-2015 10:11 PM
#15
egorpe (Member)

Originally Posted by
dennis
And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.
But what I really like to know from you is now you know all this, did you make it go the large green?
Most of the time knowledge is useless. Not completely but mostly. Unless you do shit with your own mind and body, you don't learn anything. Try to learn some martial art by "knowing" how to punch.
I "know" how to trade Forex, the theory, MetaTrader software, etc. I haven't placed a single trade though. Do I really know how to trade Forex?
One hour of doing replaces one month of "learning".
Even conferences are only useful for networking.
11-11-2015 10:20 PM
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roryltm (AMC Alumnus)
And this is why you join STM. Thanks!
11-11-2015 10:37 PM
#17
phillian (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
musketeer
Lots of good info! But spending 100k to make 10k is suicide. Rather go to the casino with 5k and try to double up. Less risk.
It's certainly not the only way to make 5 figures in a day, but when Smaxor first wrote this a few years ago I wrote it down because it was a lightbulb moment for me. (Namely, how
massive the opportunities were if you have a converting offer path).
That aside - there are many, many businesses that operate on a 10% gross profit margin. Or less.
11-11-2015 10:48 PM
#18
musketeer (Member)

Originally Posted by
phillian
It's certainly not the only way to make 5 figures in a day, but when Smaxor first wrote this a few years ago I wrote it down because it was a lightbulb moment for me. (Namely, how massive the opportunities were if you have a converting offer path).
That aside - there are many, many businesses that operate on a 10% gross profit margin. Or less.
Completely agree @ many businesses operate at 10%. But with media buying so many things can go wrong day to day between your traffic source, your host, your network/direct offer and their banking and/or client that you could get flushed out in no time running on a margin that low with a spend that high. especially since stopping a campaign that big can be very hard and finding another home for 100k in traffic if it can't be stopped (direct buy) is another story.
Great post though, thought provoking 👍
11-12-2015 12:09 AM
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phillian (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
dennis
And now that you know all this stuff, are you doing high profit numbers?
My situation is that I know all this but can't make it work.
I overthink EVERYTHING to the point that I can walk away and don't do a thing.
I guess that's the result of failing to many times.
Wanted to address your concerns with some honesty.
I've built and now sold companies (where affiliate commissions are just one slice of a larger revenue pie) so I guess by most standards, yes I've done large numbers.
But am I still hungry to do much more? Yes.
And could I have done them much sooner, or done larger numbers, if I had taken massive action earlier? Yes. I think so.
I relate to what you're saying and your frustration. I was perfectly poised - right information, right connections, right timing - to have done much, much more early on. And I didn't...
because I was stuck in endless analysis paralysis loops. I read every blog. Every forum. Went to the major conferences. But until I got focused on doing the thing that makes businesses run (for this business it's building campaigns) I was just spinning my wheels. Spreading myself thin, throwing stuff at a wall, jumping from offer to offer, traffic source to traffic source. I wasted months, maybe years, of amazing opportunity.
Don't be this me.
Back to you - there is still so much more room for growth ahead in this industry.
And there is a
lifetime of opportunity ahead for you if you can acquire the skillset to make something work here.
There's a multiplier effect once you cross the chasm from solo affiliate to business owner or joint ventures, from $0.40 payouts to direct/ rev-share partnerships, or owning the offer / network / site. The skillset that makes a good affiliate is incredibly useful beyond CPA campaigns - you have deep expertise in user acquisition, sales/ lead funnel optimization, risk management, and - probably the least-acknowledged but most valuable skill of all - self-discipline.
Those skills, well-applied, are XX,XXX,XXX valuable to the marketplace. That's probably conservative.
It's not my business to give you unsolicited advice but if I were to go back in time and advise myself circa 2007, I'd say
ingest and live by the advice in this thread- particularly this post by Stackman- focus. And apply it. That's really it.
11-13-2015 05:00 PM
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duck_noodle (AMC Alumnus)
omg. 6 week course sums into 1 post. surprised surprised O_O another ghostress in AM 
11-13-2015 05:25 PM
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cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
duck_noodle
omg. 6 week course sums into 1 post. surprised surprised O_O another ghostress in AM

It is 5 years condensed into 1 post. Just brilliant.
11-14-2015 02:10 PM
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stackman (Administrator)
This is pretty much the cliff notes of affiliate marketing! Awesome post
Your outsourcing points are spot on, and it's my greatest mistake off all time while in this industry. If i was more confident with hiring/outsourcing from day 1, i would have made 2-3x more money overall! Mainly because i would have been milking every campaign.
11-14-2015 06:22 PM
#23
duck_noodle (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
It is 5 years condensed into 1 post. Just brilliant.
indeed! i'm referring to 6WAMC heheh, i see her there too but keep silence
11-18-2015 03:22 AM
#24
mex1can (Member)
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
11-18-2015 04:01 AM
#25
t33media (Member)
Thank you and Good read, I feel many of us can relate to your point of views
12-02-2015 12:50 AM
#26
cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
You can tell Phillian is one of the O.G's of AM!
No kidding ... just an awesome post.
12-02-2015 10:37 AM
#27
cbrughmans (Member)
This write up is GOLD for every affiliate.
Adding to that already very extensive list:
Attend at least three international affiliate marketing fairs (ASW/ASE, AWA, DMEXCO, GDC, Leadscon, etc) per year. You learn way more during those fairs in just a few days than by reading here for months. Its not only the knowledge you acquire at these fairs - but mostly the people, contacts and relationships you build. This will eventually lead to guarantueed success.
12-05-2015 04:33 PM
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barman ()
Great post phillian. "Learn by doing, not by reading." is the key point. You can read and analyze till you're blue in the face but until you're dealing with live visitors and paying customers then theory and someone else's experience that you've read about doesn't matter
04-10-2016 06:17 PM
#29
jgesilde (Member)
Great article! It's always great to go back a review the fundamentals to be sure we are staying on track. We can never read the right stuff too many times.
I love how this article is a quick checklist for experienced marketers and a wonderful blueprint for those of you just starting off.
This part is gold: 4 Major Competitive Advantages / Moats:
Network / Advertiser Relationships - having access to higher payouts, higher caps, and exclusive offers.
Traffic Source Expertise & Relationships - expertise on a traffic source, credit lines, access to exclusive placements.
Teams & Systems - increases your speed of execution and ability to scale.
Better Technology Infrastructure - less click loss, faster rendering LPs convert better.
Thanks!
06-19-2019 07:29 PM
#30
rms_smr (Member)
This article is Gold for New Affiliates. @phillian puts the 70,000 words on the topic
10-27-2019 07:31 PM
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lukeexperience (Member)
What a great post!
Many good insights here 
Get inspired and take action.
Block by block.... even Rome wasn't built in a day!

Originally Posted by
phillian
And there is a lifetime of opportunity ahead for you if you can acquire the skillset to make something work here.
10-28-2019 03:30 AM
#32
erikgyepes (Moderator)
One of my favourite threads on STM just got bumped.
Time to reread again after 4 years!
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