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Domain name blacklisted/flagged? (36)

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Hey guys,

Is there an elegant/automated way we can know when our domain names get flagged i.e. a message pops out when visitor lands on the page saying the page may be unsafe blah blah blah?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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change domain faster as it gets flagged, I change once a week.

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http://www.trafficprotector.com/foraffiliates

This tool is in free Beta and it sends you SMS once you get flagged via Browser, Avast or other Blacklists

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Thanks for the link

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@sebastian_r Wow once a week?

How do you check to see if it's getting flagged?

@brainbug thanks for the link, I signed up.

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happy to help!

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looks great! anyone tried it?

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Yes I have it running, but cannot say how effective it really is, since none of my links got flagged. Lets keep it that way =)

But the tool is easy to setup and the checking process seems legit.

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Yep.....I didn't think this day would come. But, my domains got flagged. I was notified by my traffic source and that's only when I knew it was flagged. I remember reading up on this topic a while ago and didn't think it would happen to me so fast.

But, lesson learned.

I'm thinking about purchasing multiple domains, but before I do I'm not sure about these certain things:

1) If I'm purchasing multiple domains, is it okay to buy a domain that is a .info vs. com. It's much cheaper to buy a .info, but does this mean that it is less credible because it's not a .com causing the domain to get flagged quicker.
2) Since I'm using Voluum as my tracker, would it be good to setup a "Flow" in which I rotate landers, so that my domains have a longer lifespan. For example, the traffic will be distributed among five landers, but they're all different domain names but with all the same content.

There's a good pro I see to this and maybe there's many more:

1) Spy tools won't be able to pickup your domain that much since you're always switching it.

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this is a huge issue for me. I run 4 - 5 figure profits daily and my domains go down sometimes within 12 hours. I'm going to give this link a try hopefully it can save me from constantly checking every 20 minutes.

Has anyone used this yet? I have tons of landing pages that are active, around 200+, if i just put my domain rather than the specific LP route would this tool still be effective?

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@simon_89

1) your domain doesn't really matter that much tbh, i've tested hundreds of domains and at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is your traffic.

2) if your rotating landers its going to be a specific "zone" or "site" thats banning you from google safe browsing. Running multiple domains at once could cost you more because they'll just ban all the running domains at once. I run 1 at a time and switch all my lander domains at once.

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lol why the hell is everyones stuff gettin flagged? u all running tech?

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On point #2, so if I run a campaign with just one placement/"site" and target only that site is that necessarily a bad thing to do? Does the site you're promoting your lander on automatically that within Voluum you have multiple domains setup within that flow? The reason I setup a campaign like that is because I can start narrowing the traffic down just to one placement and get the best CPM price.

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@blue_screen
the typical pages are considered "phishing"

@simon_89
i dont get what youre asking

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Let's say you run one campaign with one profitable placement using all available targeting options in particular OS/Browsers and because you're only targeting one site and RON traffic, you're getting more exposure to that one placement therefore providing you more traffic and a greater risk of getting flagged.

So my question is does it make sense to create a campaign with just one placement even though it might put you at greater risk?

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This is a bit of over-thinking If you are targeting 1 site you are getting less exposure than you are when targeting multiple sources and getting more impressions in total. You were just unlucky to get flagged so fast. Change the domain and keep on running.

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Sent you a PM

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This has been happening to me too. Wondering if this has anything to do with Voluum. Not running tech support. Mainly sweeps....Never had any problems until a few months ago, now every few weeks my domains get flagged and the red screen comes up...Do you guys know what this can be attributed to?

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@matuloo helped me with this, perhaps Mat can chime in if I'm missing anything. It's most likely due to an offer issue from the affiliate network and not the tracking link or LP itself. So, imagine you're promoting a offer that you reached a cap on for one of this possible reason:

Since you have ran past your cap, your offer is now redirected to another similar offer or possibly a revshare offer on the network. With this, that other offer that is used might be flagged by the traffic source you're working with. With the technology that traffic sources have they could run a scan of malware/virus links.

The way you could solve this is to contact your affiliate manger about making sure the links are clean or making sure that he or she can bump up your cap based on quality review. I would focus on making sure the links are clean first, that way if you did reach your cap you don't have to worry about whether or not the link is clean.

One other note is after you reach out to your affiliate manager, you could also rope them into conversing with the traffic source to let them know it's not your fault and you intended to operate under the best intentions. If you have a account rep that you work at the traffic source even better! But, if not just stick with the affiliate manager contacting the traffic source.

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I don't think that is the issue. I ran my domain through Google's Safe Browsing tool, and sure enough it's flagged. Also ran the affiliate networks, and the advertisers domain, theirs are clean. All the sweep offers that I run are uncapped..so that's out..

Also not a traffic source issue since I am mainly running direct with various pubs that I work with closely. Ugh, frustrating, out of ideas here. I am thinking to test another tracker to see if that fixes it. I am not a techie, so I am not quite sure if changing the CNAME when adding new domains to Voluum is the issue.. Whether or not xxx.voluumtrk.com is whats causing it... maybe someone can chime in..

** Update

So upon looking into further, I ran the Voluum domains that are listed for CNAME purposes in the tracker through Google's Safe Browsing tool ...

voluumtrk2.com --- http://prntscr.com/aqqjq8
voluumtrk.com -- http://prntscr.com/aqqjjx
trackvoluum.com -- http://prntscr.com/aqqjah

All three are flagged for malware. Not sure if the domains are flagged due to the CNAME linking to those domains..Would be great to hear from a techie who knows this stuff..

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Yes, in your case if was indeed the problem with an offer - it was flagged by the traffic network so they suspended the campaign.

One thing to note here, it doesnt have to be a problem with the cap only! The original offer could be questionable too, or they have questionable offers setup for out-of-targeting traffic. These are called fallback offers and any traffic that doesnt match the targeting of the original offer, is sent to these. Some networks really overdo this, causing affiliates problems for a bit of extra revenue. Try to ask your AM if they can take off the redirects for you.

In case of bizfreak22, its a different issue, since his domain is flagged in googles safebrowsing DB. This is the case when a new domain is needed. The core issue is the same tho IMO, the domain got flagged because it linked to a mallware/phishing offer. Could be a fallback offer again, or not.

Im not a techie, but I dont think a CNAMED domain can be flagged automatically just because it is cnamed to a flagged domain. If it was the case, all Voluum users would be affected.

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So, if my LP is actually flagged with that red screen of death("deceptive site ahead") that is the cause of the traffic network flagging my website causing that red screen to pop up in my LP. Therefore, I need to also get a new domain and also asking the affiliate network to "clean" their link.

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Sweeps pages are also flagged for deceptive content. Use wildcard domains to stay up longer.

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You're all getting phishing flags because you're pretending to be FB, Google, etc. on your landers

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Nope, this is "google safe browsing" flagging you, so chrome users will see the red screen - plus whoever uses their DB will see the flag too.

If the LP domain got flagged because the LP was too misleading or what, you need to buy a new domain.

If the offer got flagged and the flag got passed on your domain because of that, the domain is done too and you need a new one.

If this happens, you need to ask your AM whether they know about it, sometimes the offer owners change something or even "cheat" the aff network and start to push mallware etc. Sometimes the aff networks know and dont really care, in such cases its good to have fallback redirects turned off.

So first of all, you need to figure out whether it was your domain that got flagged (open it in chrome) or if you just got into trouble with the traffic source because of a flagged offer and act accordingly.

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https://security.googleblog.com/2016...d-buttons.html

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The LP itself is flagged and gave me the red screen.

So, if I entered

simon.com/landingpage1/lp1.html ----> flagged for deceptive content

simon.com/landingpage2/lp2.html -----> not flagged.

As far as the offer goes, I took the offer link from the network and plugged it into google safe browsing: both the affiliate link and when it's actually redirected to the offer. Google safe browser didn't deem it dangerous.... So in this case, maybe the LP itself is the only part that's flagged therefore the need of a new domain.

Either way, I have contacted the affiliate network to make sure the links are clean

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In your particular case, as we talked over PMs, the offer caused the problem. They sent you the link that caused the problem, it was in the first part of the email. The rest was just the full redirect chain.
This particular network uses some database that is pretty strict, Im not sure where they get the data from but it caused problems with my own campaigns too. Its not the same DB as google safe browsing.

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Okay, I thought the first part of their email was about my LP being bad. But, I'll take the appropriate actions to get this fixed. I'll register a new domain, do a new CNAME onto the Voluum trk link, and work with AM about the issue. Thanks Mat!

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You're welcome

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Is this happening to anyone who is NOT using Voluum?

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So I reached out to my affiliate manager and they've discussed that the issue is not with them, but with Voluum itself. Apparently they received a notice a long time ago to suspend Voluum tracking links on Google Adwords accounts(not sure how this effects Google Chrome browsing in general). This is probably why it's leading to multiple instances of the red screen popping up.

The weird thing is affiliates that use the default tracking link ie. 11111.voluumtrk.com is not the same as the one stated in the screenshot. Perhaps by getting my own domain and referencing the Voluum links with directing a CNAME towards Voluum tracking links will eliminate any future issues.

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This was an older problem with Voluum, their domains have been flagged, but to my understanding the issue has been solved since.

Look at the email from your traffic source again, there you have the infringing URL right at the beginning. They specifically told you that "this particular url" was hosting mallware. The traffic source that has flagged the URL is not affiliated with adwords, nor do they use their DB to screen offers. This happens with that source from time to time and the aff network should know it. Your own domain will not help you with this, as it was the offer that raised the flag.

This doesnt mean that you shouldnt be using your own domain, you actually should do that some time ago already

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So, I guess there's really no way around this. I sent an email to the traffic source a moment ago apologizing to them and stating that it wasn't my intention to tarnish publisher websites. I also told them that I'm using third party software to alert me once the website is flagged, so I can take it down. I'd like to build trust with them.

My game plan right now for this kind of issue is:

- I have setup TrafficProtector to notify me when my websites and Voluum tracking link has been flagged.
- I am changing domains once every 3 days, hopefully doing this will help ease the probability of getting flagged.

With changing the Voluum tracking link from http://00000.voluumtrk.com to http://simontracking.com, do I have to worry about my hosting not being able to handle the volume of users and the cost raising? I'm using AWS Cloudfront, S3, and Route53 for everything. I hope by hosting my domain on Amazon isn't making it slower than using Voluum's self hosted link.

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No, there is no way around it, if you push an offer they have marked as mallware, you can rotate a dozen of domains and it will not help you as they check the full redirect path all the way to the offer. If anything on the way matches with their flagging DB, you get suspended. Trafficprotector can help you a bit, but Im not sure what DB they are checking against. If its a different one than the traffic source is using, it wont help 100% again. The only way is to use safe offers

When you CNAME the domain to voluum, traffic will not even reach your host, the "redirect" happens on the DNS level, so it will have ZERO impact on your current hosting setup. You might want to use a service like dnsmadeeasy to make sure the DNS resolves as fast as possible.

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So I decided to research it myself and I actually did find something dangerous with the website. I mentioned earlier in my posts that one of the offers I was promoting reached its cap and therefore redirected to another offer. After the redirection to the offer, the next day my account was suspended on the traffic source.

I took the redirected offer after it reached the offer page, it is deemed dangerous. However, the parts after the root domain isn't dangerous. But, I think google safe browser flags the root domains. See screenshot below.

Now, I'm taking the appropriate measure by first contacting the AM and alerting them of this issue. Plus check all the other affiliate links I'm working with on the network.

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