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10-28-2015 03:12 PM #1 nambavan (Member)
Best hosting and tracking setup?

Hello STM,
I need your advice.

I'm doing performance marketing not so long and started from very basic configuration: Voluum + dedicated server in NL + cloudflare.
I didn't know anything about the industry and how all this stuff works, so main goal was to start faster.
Now I have more understanding of what I really need and want to improve my setup.

I have the following issues and concerns at the moment:

- Voluum. I produce about 2M events daily and it costs me > $1k/monthly. It is expensive for me. BTW I get only about 400k visitors daily from traffic sources who produce all this events. So if I want to track everything, I should pay more for the same amount of traffic. It wouldn't be an issue, if voluum could do everything I need. But it is not.

- I have multistep funnel and multipages LPs. Voluum doesnt't allow to track such campaigns properly. For example, I have main 1 page LP with back button redirect and exit confirm. I'm rotating different offers on main LP, BB and exit confirm. Now I should create 3 campaigns for it. If I want to count NET revenue of my funnel I need to summarize revenues of 3 campaigns. But it is a pain if you start to optimize placements on traffic source. You have costs counted for main LP campaign only, but revenue for each placement is mixed between 3 campaigns. So you need to workaround with tokens between campaigns and then analize 3 reports in Excel to track everything properly.

- There is now way to create multi offer LP and rotate different offers on each place to find the winner. For example, you have place A and place B. You want to rotate A1, A2 offers on A place and B1, B2, B3 on B place. Things become more interesting if B3 is another LP with it's own offers. You will get pain to setup such campaign and another pain to analyze, optimize and track such setup. Voluum is not good for stuff like that.

- I buy a lot of banners and pop traffic from different sources. So about 20% of traffic on my landers are not unique traffic. I want to show different LPs and offers to unique and not unique traffic, and be able to create different flows based on that rule. Voluum doesn't allows me to do that, so I needed to implement my own php rotator and put it on dedicated server in NL. That is another issue.

- I buy a lot of pop traffic from IN, MY, TH, ZA, AR, BR, MX. LPs speed is extremely important for such traffic. As I have dynamic LPs hosted in NL and additional redirect between tracker and LP - I experience traffic loss. I wish to have a hosted tracker without redirects and with ability to insert php code there.

So I need right tracker and right hosting setup to solve the problems.
I'm thinking about Thrive and Funnel Flux.

I like Thrive for their managed hosting solutions on the cloud. I think it is possible to integrate their tracker and my dynamic LPs and put it all in the cloud for the fastest delivery.

On the other hand Funnel Flux seems to be more flexible and allows me to integrate my LPs php logic easily. But I'm not sure if this software is stable, supported and could handle big volumes. I also didn't find anything about managed solutions and cloud hosting for that. I don't want to setup it on my NL server and get 4s LP loading time from ZA or AU.

Any help will be appreciated. Really want to push my tracking and hosting environment to the next level.

Hope the power of STM will help


10-29-2015 08:09 AM #2 vitavee ()

FunnelFlux is definitely supported and stable. We're adding new features pretty much all the time and we have a very responsive support desk.

It's being used by some big affiliates and is actually the tracker recommended by Zeno in the current 6WAMC session.

For the volume you're doing you will need a good server. 2 million events per day is not small, I'd recommend a 24-cpu server and 64GB of RAM so you can continue scaling up. This configuration is available on Vultr for $512 per month, and it's paid on a per hour basis so you can try it without any risk.

We also have a 30-day $1 trial, give it a try


10-29-2015 10:39 PM #3 nambavan (Member)

Thanks for reply.

I'm not a tech guy, so would you be so kind to explain me the following:

I want my tracking + LPs loading speed to be super fast. And I know that it is extremely important to have servers as close to your visitors as possible.
Is it possible with FunnelFlux+Vultr to achieve it? I mean IN visitors will get responses from Asian data centers and ZA visitors will get responses from Africa data centers (content supposed to be dynamic).

We also have a 30-day $1 trial, give it a try
It's not a matter of price. It takes time to move all campaigns to new tracker


10-30-2015 05:28 AM #4 vitavee ()

The only way to achieve this with a self-hosted tracker is to deploy it on different servers. In your case one server in Asia and one in Africa. That's not ideal though as you will have 2 different dashboards, 2 different sets of campaigns etc...

When I said give it a try, I of course didn't mean to move all your campaigns right away. But you may want to read nwokobia's latest sentence in this post


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