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Mobile Sweeps. Already GREEN! But got Confused (10)


10-04-2015 04:15 PM #1 dtalexone (AMC Alumnus)

You have a campaign that is in the positive which is great. Try to take the lander you have and improve on it; whether that means changing the button color or testing a different headline or image.


10-04-2015 05:24 PM #2 sebastian_r (Member)

wouldn't try UK (i) they've been hit hard with iphone sweeps the last months (ii) UK pop is currently dominated by pins, will be hard to compete with sweeps street payout. In FR and ES the payouts are compared to the cpm a bad joke. NL could be worth a try, if you're not looking for anything more than a couple $ revenue. Market is tiny. would go a bit further abroad.

test every aspect of lander to increase roi, try different self-serve networks, and set up your accounts with the managed. they're brutally slow in getting started. can take you easily 7-10 days till traffic flows.

if you're targeting iOS only, try to make android work. That's a whoopping 80% traffic increase.
don't cut traffic yet with blacklisting. don't use day parting yet. you need the traffic for testing.

build a nice back button funnel. 30-50% of your traffic will go through this. hint: sending to offer is not the best solution.

split test all available iphone offers from adsimilis, clickdealer, f5,


10-04-2015 05:40 PM #3 beemarkt (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sebastian_r View Post
wouldn't try UK (i) they've been hit hard with iphone sweeps the last months (ii) UK pop is currently dominated by pins, will be hard to compete with sweeps street payout. In FR and ES the payouts are compared to the cpm a bad joke. NL could be worth a try, if you're not looking for anything more than a couple $ revenue. Market is tiny. would go a bit further abroad.

test every aspect of lander to increase roi, try different self-serve networks, and set up your accounts with the managed. they're brutally slow in getting started. can take you easily 7-10 days till traffic flows.

if you're targeting iOS only, try to make android work. That's a whoopping 80% traffic increase.
don't cut traffic yet with blacklisting. don't use day parting yet. you need the traffic for testing.

build a nice back button funnel. 30-50% of your traffic will go through this. hint: sending to offer is not the best solution.

split test all available iphone offers from adsimilis, clickdealer, f5,
Thank you for your advice.

Could you please add me on Skype: sssimasss-92, or give me yours .... As I would like to ask more about back button funnel.


10-05-2015 05:54 AM #4 vortex (Senior Moderator)

I saw a duplicate thread that's almost exactly the same as this one except has a little bit less content, so I deleted it. I saw that you tried to embed the image in your other thread, so I've taken the liberty of fixing that in this current thread - hope you wouldn't mind!

Sebastian has given you the best advice. You already have a profitable camp going so you know the vertical and geo is easy to get profitable with - you achieved that with the first offer you tried (I'm assuming) and only 5 landers! Luck is definitely on your side as well. So instead of trying another geo, I would focus on mass-testing offers and landers. You can either set up a separate campaign so you have two, and use one to test landers (using your current offer) and the other camp to test offers (using your current-best lander) - or you could just use your current camp to test offers first, and when you're down to your last winning offer you can mass-test landers. When scaling to other networks, don't just take your most profitable offer and lander - re-test the 2+ best offers and landers because each traffic source has different publishers so you may end up with a different winner for offer and lander.

And like sebastian has pointed out - try not to cut too many placements because you need that traffic for testing. However, seeing as it's Adcash we're talking about, there are probably placements that are draining your budget that you'd want to cut now. If traffic volume isn't an issue, by all means cut anything that doesn't look like is going to convert, so you'd keep testing costs low. However, once you have a better offer + lander combo, you may want to re-test those placements again because they may be profitable then.

Also - once you're happy with the ROI - it would be a good idea to start testing bids. Clone your current campaign a few times, and set each to a different bid - some higher and some lower - to uncover profitable placements. There are high quality placements that just aren't accessible with low bids. Warning: If you want to try really high bids, be sure to set a low'ish daily budget just in case, and watch your stats like a hawk!

Regarding back-button redirect - there are threads that already contain this information. Just insert the following in your code (just before the </body> tag would be fine) and change the link to whatever you want to direct people to:

<script>
history.replaceState(null, document.title, location.pathname+"#!/redirect");
history.pushState(null, document.title, location.pathname);
window.addEventListener("popstate", function() {
if(location.hash === "#!/redirect") {
setTimeout(function(){
location.replace("http://your-redirect-destination.com");
},0);
}
}, false);
</script>
Congrats and I look forward to seeing you take this camp to another level!


Amy


10-05-2015 04:04 PM #5 beemarkt (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
I saw a duplicate thread that's almost exactly the same as this one except has a little bit less content, so I deleted it. I saw that you tried to embed the image in your other thread, so I've taken the liberty of fixing that in this current thread - hope you wouldn't mind!

Sebastian has given you the best advice. You already have a profitable camp going so you know the vertical and geo is easy to get profitable with - you achieved that with the first offer you tried (I'm assuming) and only 5 landers! Luck is definitely on your side as well. So instead of trying another geo, I would focus on mass-testing offers and landers. You can either set up a separate campaign so you have two, and use one to test landers (using your current offer) and the other camp to test offers (using your current-best lander) - or you could just use your current camp to test offers first, and when you're down to your last winning offer you can mass-test landers. When scaling to other networks, don't just take your most profitable offer and lander - re-test the 2+ best offers and landers because each traffic source has different publishers so you may end up with a different winner for offer and lander.

And like sebastian has pointed out - try not to cut too many placements because you need that traffic for testing. However, seeing as it's Adcash we're talking about, there are probably placements that are draining your budget that you'd want to cut now. If traffic volume isn't an issue, by all means cut anything that doesn't look like is going to convert, so you'd keep testing costs low. However, once you have a better offer + lander combo, you may want to re-test those placements again because they may be profitable then.

Also - once you're happy with the ROI - it would be a good idea to start testing bids. Clone your current campaign a few times, and set each to a different bid - some higher and some lower - to uncover profitable placements. There are high quality placements that just aren't accessible with low bids. Warning: If you want to try really high bids, be sure to set a low'ish daily budget just in case, and watch your stats like a hawk!

Regarding back-button redirect - there are threads that already contain this information. Just insert the following in your code (just before the </body> tag would be fine) and change the link to whatever you want to direct people to:



Congrats and I look forward to seeing you take this camp to another level!


Amy
Thank you !


10-05-2015 04:37 PM #6 cbrughmans (Member)

The pay out seems really low for a tier one geo like AU; try to get a better pay out or switch networks

That will enable you to upscale from xxx to xxxx a day


10-05-2015 06:32 PM #7 beemarkt (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cbrughmans View Post
The pay out seems really low for a tier one geo like AU; try to get a better pay out or switch networks

That will enable you to upscale from xxx to xxxx a day
Thank you,

Just asked my affiliate manager's for payout bump.... Fingers crossed


01-11-2016 05:13 PM #8 sushiparlour (Member)

Was looking at the screenshot of your Voluum, how come the CTR can be greater than 100%? Also the rate is also very very high (or is mine just extremely low cause I average around 5-10% CTR only) does this mean you're running direct? Or is there someway you are setting this up that I don't quite get. Very curious about this actually.


01-11-2016 06:16 PM #9 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by sushiparlour View Post
Was looking at the screenshot of your Voluum, how come the CTR can be greater than 100%? Also the rate is also very very high (or is mine just extremely low cause I average around 5-10% CTR only) does this mean you're running direct? Or is there someway you are setting this up that I don't quite get. Very curious about this actually.
This is usually connected with the use of some script like backbutton redirect, popunder etc ... that sends the user to some other offer when page is closed or imediately, and the same link is used to track it.


01-25-2016 11:39 PM #10 jwhodini (Member)

Nice work dude! Keep up the good work


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