I do not even bother with 1st tier GEOs and pornhub or xhamster placements as they are way too expensive for me as novice adult affiliate.
Now I got a decent offer that is pretty hot (according to AMs and when spying for ads) with an OK payout of $3 PPL. It's a cams offer that pays those $3 even to some 2nd tier countries.
This is my 3rd try with Trafficjunky. In these geos I'm often the only bidder so I get a decent junk of traffic.
My stats with default banners look like that:
Geo 1:
CTR: 0.51
eCPM: 0.12
eCPC: 0.023
Geo 2:
CTR: 0.14
eCPM: 0.098
eCPC: 0.071
Again, this is not optimized at all. Especially geo 2 would need some improvement.
Anyways, my question is this:
The only reason I could not get adult offers to work with TJ is that poor CR. I can get clicks pretty cheaply and I think the CPC/Payout ratio is pretty good. I don't have much experience with Cams at all but I assume the CR is higher than 1%. This would make geo 1 a nice campaign.
Do you guys have any experience with TJ and 2nd or 3rd tier geos? May the issue be that you still have too much junk or even bot traffic to make it worthwhile?
These campaigns are very low volume and may be in the xx/day range. So when running such small numbers, I cannot afford to have a high ratio of junk traffic to live with.
Any thoughts appreciated.
First of all adult is pretty competitive so if you don't see any bidders that could mean no one is able to get those geos to work at the minimum bids. I certainly wouldn't advise not to test as you could stumble upon a goldmine, but keep this in mind when things aren't working.
Second it sounds like you are running cams. It is quite rare for affiliates to push cams on media buys and those that do are often huge teams with very optimized conversion funnels (ie, crakrevenue). Again, this is another opportunity for a hidden goldmine but now that you've tested and it hasn't worked it is something to keep in mind.
Hi,
I tend to agree with the above.
If you have a good CTR that means that you address the Geo properly, if the conversion rate is not good, maybe you are pushing the wrong offer or your LP needs optimizing.
I would either try to edit the LP or try to keep the same approach with a different offer.
Anton
Well, I have those landing pages in place others are working with successfully. Maybe not in this geo but in similar geos. Of course I could test offers and LPs more. But with -100% ROI I doubt it will help much. Maybe I'm not thinking this through properly. But it just wont get into my head that I can get 0.02c kind of clicks through good banner placements in "smaller" 1st tier geos using same offers and LPs like other affiliates are using successfully and it's just a total waste for me.
I do not have the experience of the seasoned veterans on this board but from what I know, if you have a good CTR (and eCPC) but have a poor ROI it can be one of these reasons:
- Banner is deceptive (like including no "CC needed" or "Free" when it is not true).
- LP is not converting well (loss of traffic)
- Offer not converting
- Payout not high enough (meaning you do convert but do not earn enough $$$)
I might be missing stuff here but from what I know these are the main reasons for good CTR and poor ROI.
If you track your traffic, it should be pretty easy to find out which of these is the reason for the poor ROI.
Cheers
Anton
Does anybody have success with Bongacams/cash? This is the program I'm promoting. I expanded to other geos that were mentioned as best converting ones from them. Could do decent volumes with low click prices but for over 2k in banner clicks I got exactly 1 signup that brought no cash yet. It can be either or but it surely looks fishy doesn't it?
Nobody working with Bongacash here? Over sending 2k clicks through TJ banner ads with 1 lousy lead I'm giving up on this.