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09-23-2015 07:42 AM #1 v1r4l4adv (Member)
Offshore Bank/Credit Cards (e.g. BVI, H.K.) as FB Payment Method?

Hi mates,

i'm going to incorporate my own company and i'd like to know your experiences about some offshore countries, which ones work as payment methods and which ones don't work.

1. BVI (British Virgin Islands)
2. Hong Kong
3. Cyprus

I also know that Facebook, when you are adding a payment method, checks your ip address and could ban your account for suspicious activities if there is a discrepancy between payment method country and your ip address.
If the company is incorporated e.g. in Cyprus, but the bank account is in another country, which ip address should i use?

Thank you for your help


09-23-2015 08:54 AM #2 tomsko (Member)

Just match the IP you are visiting from with close by bank CC.


09-23-2015 09:03 AM #3 beastmode (Member)

I heard they only care about matching the country of your where credit card issued is if you are NOT in USA or UK.

So if you're using international cards, you can use any FB account as long as it's not USA or UK.

Not sure if this is true or not.


09-23-2015 09:50 AM #4 v1r4l4adv (Member)

thank you @beastmode @tomsko

anyone knows if a bank in BVI is accepted (wire transfer/credit card) as payment method?


09-23-2015 09:59 AM #5 franco12 (Member)

Hey mate,

You're mixing two issues ....

(1) keep your FB accounts save and healthy = same IP / same browser with a certain amount of friends (e.g. >20) and account life (e.g. >6 weeks)
(2) paying for your ads with a cc


09-23-2015 10:11 AM #6 v1r4l4adv (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by franco12 View Post
Hey mate,

You're mixing two issues ....

(1) keep your FB accounts save and healthy = same IP / same browser with a certain amount of friends (e.g. >20) and account life (e.g. >6 weeks)
(2) paying for your ads with a cc
Hi mate, yep i know. So in your opinion will a credit card of a bank e.g. in BVI work as payment method, if i will use it with my real FB account (i'm from Malta, real fb account, never used for fb advertising and so on). And if i will fill out the payment details (e.g. name of the company) using a bvi company?
I will run whitehat offers. My concern is about the discrepancy between my ip address and company/bank account country.

For example i know that Cypriot Banks have some issue with Paypal/Amazon and it happens that you aren't able to use them as payment method.

thank you


09-23-2015 11:35 AM #7 franco12 (Member)

I'm an expert in (1), not (2)

your FB's account country + cc country MUST match (for your cc, you only enter a zip code, nothing else. no name, address....)

don't think of entering a VCC or PayPal account to begin with :-)


09-23-2015 12:14 PM #8 beastmode (Member)

I have personally run an ad campaign for 6 months using a US credit card, on a Philippines account with no ID verification from FB. But I am not sure if it's a fluke or not. That's why I'm a bit confused and need more information.


09-23-2015 12:36 PM #9 franco12 (Member)

Wow, good for you.

Reasons might be:

- you're super lucky
- the FB accounts is >6 months old (believe it or not, Philippine FB accounts are scrutinized like hell)
- something else


09-23-2015 01:31 PM #10 1jilliondollars (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by v1r4l4adv View Post
Hi mates,

i'm going to incorporate my own company and i'd like to know your experiences about some offshore countries, which ones work as payment methods and which ones don't work.

1. BVI (British Virgin Islands)
2. Hong Kong
3. Cyprus

I also know that Facebook, when you are adding a payment method, checks your ip address and could ban your account for suspicious activities if there is a discrepancy between payment method country and your ip address.
If the company is incorporated e.g. in Cyprus, but the bank account is in another country, which ip address should i use?

Thank you for your help
Hi there

What a coincidence!

I live in Cyprus and I am also a Director at C.Savva & Associates Ltd (www.savvacyprus.com) leading corporate services provider

If you require more info let me know and I can get an account manager to contact you with details in regards to incorporating a company in Cyprus and opening a bank account in Cyprus or anywhere else you prefer (We are introducers at many banks in various jurisdictions) PM me your email if you are interested.

Aris


09-23-2015 01:50 PM #11 v1r4l4adv (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by 1jilliondollars View Post
If you require more info let me know and I can get an account manager to contact you with details in regards to incorporating a company in Cyprus and opening a bank account in Cyprus or anywhere else you prefer (We are introducers at many banks in various jurisdictions) PM me your email if you are interested.

Aris
Hi Aris, thank you very much but i have just my own corporate service provider (it's not the first company i'm going to open) but i guess your post could be useful for other stm users.

cheers


09-23-2015 03:50 PM #12 yohn1985 (Member)

just what others have said, in my experience the cc must match the country and when you add the cc the only thing that matters the most is the zip code which must match the cc's real zip code.
however that same cc zip code doesnt have to match the city of where the acc was created as long as is in the same country.
again this is just my experience and i am in the US.


09-23-2015 06:15 PM #13 arlind (Member)

Sorry to hijack the thread but does it matter if the account was first created in USA and then you warmup that account for a few weeks (different country IP) and add a CC (not USA)?


09-23-2015 09:35 PM #14 alchemist (Member)

arlind, that might help, people do migrate...also aren't people paranoid about Cyprus given the millions the banks took from their depositors recently during their bank crisis?


09-23-2015 10:54 PM #15 fbqueen (Senior Member)

Yes, your CC's billing zip code must be the one that is actually on your bank account. Also you should match the CC's location with your FB account's IP/Location.

So as long as your CC's zip code is from the same country as your FB acct is, you're fine.


09-25-2015 01:29 PM #16 1jilliondollars (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by alchemist View Post
arlind, that might help, people do migrate...also aren't people paranoid about Cyprus given the millions the banks took from their depositors recently during their bank crisis?
Its fading out. We had more business after the crisis then before. Cyprus is still a tax haven. You can simply open a bank account in another country and run your operations via your CypCo

Aris


09-28-2015 05:23 PM #17 beastmode (Member)

I think we should be clear if we're talking about US and non US accounts, I think there might be differences in the FB filter.


10-10-2015 03:53 AM #18 badimo (AMC Alumnus)

So I suppose using my Payoneer Mastercard would also be dangerous for my account since it's like from a US bank account and I'm not in the US..


10-11-2015 02:14 AM #19 anindya (Member)

I use VCC, sometimes I successfully FB sometimes not.


12-03-2015 08:53 AM #20 tylerdurden (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by badimo View Post
So I suppose using my Payoneer Mastercard would also be dangerous for my account since it's like from a US bank account and I'm not in the US..
Nope, that would be fine, 100%.


12-03-2015 10:49 AM #21 cbrughmans (Member)

Whatever you do, don't work with a guy called JOZEF SKUNTA.

He'll probably read your post and reach out to you. He has scammed many people over here. Asks for prepayment, then disappears or Bullshits but doesnt deliver anything.


12-04-2015 05:37 AM #22 tomcpalead (Member)

Everyone is getting mixed up.

This is called something called Address Verification System (AVS). This is exactly what Facebook uses and that's why I can create multiple Facebook accounts using my Visa in Australia, while using an alternate name and address.

Payment methods that require AVS are card supplied by financial institutions in the US. By default, AVS rules will only apply to transactions and verifications with a billing address in the US and transactions that don't specify a country. While many countries do not consistently support AVS, addresses in the US, Canada, and the UK are standardized enough for AVS checks to be run.

If you have a card from any other country, AVS is not run by Facebook, and in turn, avoid the flag.

Payoneer - Uses a type of AVS. But it does not disclose which information it runs as it's check. Visa and Mastercard both use a different AVS system. I have used my Payoneer card without initial flag.
ALL VCC's are banned from Facebook and no longer work. Paypal is 'disliked' by Facebook and new accounts can easily copy a flag using Paypal.

The safest method is a physical card from a country other than US, UK and Canada.

(Source: I have been dealing with Facebook for a while and did some investigating over the years)


12-04-2015 11:59 PM #23 lolzap (Member)

Many times I used European Facebook accounts and paid for ad spend with US credit cards. Haven't had issues so far.


01-31-2016 12:16 PM #24 spartanen (Member)

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02-03-2016 11:36 AM #25 intheory (Member)

Even US cards on US accounts don't have to match the real cards zip code. Only match the account's IP zip code to put when adding the card. Have also used cards from the UK, Australia, NZ, Canada, Netherlands, etc. If the real card's zip is different from the IP location, then don't put the real zip, that'll get it flagged much quicker, often when adding it.


02-26-2016 03:39 PM #26 lord charles (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by intheory View Post
Even US cards on US accounts don't have to match the real cards zip code. Only match the account's IP zip code to put when adding the card. Have also used cards from the UK, Australia, NZ, Canada, Netherlands, etc. If the real card's zip is different from the IP location, then don't put the real zip, that'll get it flagged much quicker, often when adding it.
How are you supposed to get a VPN with the exact same zip code as your CC? Or would a VPN with a Glasgow IP work if your CC is London-based?


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